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02-13-05, 12:18 AM
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i have a 20 gal tank getting set up for a ball python ... becasue the top is a removable screen lid..would i be able to put 3/4 of plexi glass on it to keep in the humidity?
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02-13-05, 12:37 AM
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If you chose to use an Aquarium you will need to have a plexi glass or lexan top for sure.
There are several posts here on the subject of housing. Most people feel rubbermaids are the way to go with BP housing.
Enjoy.
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02-13-05, 12:38 AM
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i know, id love to get a rubbermaid i just dont want to see my tanks go to waste.. i have a 10 and a 20..what do u think i should house..im open for anything but bugs
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02-13-05, 01:00 AM
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Check out my reply in the thread "tank size".
If you're going to use an aquarium, you definitely plexiglass (or the like) on top. I'm temporarily using just a clear shower curtain, but remember that glass is terrible for retaining heat OR humidity. It's a bit of work, but it can be done.
Good luck!
PS. Those tanks are too small for an adult ball.
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02-13-05, 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by Spirit
but remember that glass is terrible for retaining heat OR humidity.
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I always hate reading this statement over and over.
It's not the GLASS that makes tanks not so great at holding in heat and humidity... it's the fact that they have essentially an open top, and since Humid and warm air rises it goes right out the top. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with the tank being made of glass. An open top rubbermaid will do exactly the same thing.
Tanks are a lot more work to keep the temp and humidity stable in than a closed rubbermaid, that's true. But it can and has been done by many many people.
However with tanks of that size you'll want something other than a Ball Python anyhow, as someone else mentioned they're a bit small for an adult. I'd suggest something that doesn't need much humidity and thrives on belly heat there are a number of smaller snake species that could work. Sand Boas come to mind and probably dozens of lizard species that could do well in a tank. Leos are the first that comes to mind.
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02-13-05, 11:39 AM
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There are so many beautiful aboreal geckos that would be great for your 20 gallon. I to would go for a rubbermaid if I were you 
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02-13-05, 12:02 PM
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thx guys, for my 10 gal im putting a blizzard gecko (hopefully) or some type of leo. and for the 20 i was thinking a baby ball? then upgrade it or no?
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02-13-05, 12:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Slannesh
I always hate reading this statement over and over.
It's not the GLASS that makes tanks not so great at holding in heat and humidity... it's the fact that they have essentially an open top, and since Humid and warm air rises it goes right out the top. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with the tank being made of glass. An open top rubbermaid will do exactly the same thing.
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While that may be true about the open lid, have you ever stood in front of your window on a snowy day? Heat or not, that glass is cold to the touch. Bad for holding in heat. It's a fact.
If you want to use glass, the best way to keep the temps up inside the tank, is to insulate the ouside of the tank. I still say rubber is best... Mind you if you have a little space heater behind the tank, that back wall (glass) will warm up nicely and raise the overall temps inside.
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02-13-05, 12:24 PM
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i have my two in rubbermaids
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02-13-05, 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by eddiezahra
i know, id love to get a rubbermaid i just dont want to see my tanks go to waste.. i have a 10 and a 20..what do u think i should house..im open for anything but bugs
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If you need to know how to keep fish, PM me. Otherwise, 10 and 20 can be used for numerous reptiles.
In the 20 you could easily keep, say, a corn snake, or a hog nose.
In the 10, maybe a smaller lizard, like a small day gecko? Maybe an anole or two?
Have you checked out the fancy praying mantises? Like the flower mantis? Theyre pretty cool. you can hold them.
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02-13-05, 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by pablo111
Have you checked out the fancy praying mantises? Like the flower mantis? Theyre pretty cool. you can hold them.
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Haha this may have been a joke but where can you get these? I'd love to keep a praying mantis
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02-13-05, 02:18 PM
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I looked into getting a praying mantis last year. Did you know they live only 6 months? Maybe I'm wrong? lol
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02-13-05, 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Spirit
I looked into getting a praying mantis last year. Did you know they live only 6 months? Maybe I'm wrong? lol
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The mantises you find in the Northern US and Canada, yes. And actually its more like 8 or 9 usually in captivity.
These tropical ones like the flower mantis go for several years.
NEVER listen to the idiots at superpet.
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02-13-05, 02:33 PM
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5-6 months, 2-3 years either way I want one, hook me up with a link to a breeder or somethin
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02-13-05, 02:35 PM
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you may be able to keep a corn in a 10 or 20, but corns get pretty long! And a 20 g would not be a big enough cage.
A hognose on the other hand would be great for a 10 gal tank, and maybe a couple (or 1 ) leo in the 20g tank.
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