border
sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum
 

Go Back   sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum > Venomous Forums > General Venomous Forum

Notices

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-02-05, 11:32 PM   #1
rwg
Member
 
Join Date: Jul-2003
Location: ON
Posts: 528
rhinoceros viper taxonomy

So, is it bitis nasicornis or bitis gabonica rhinoceros?

rg
__________________
1 adult bull snake: "Dozer"; 1.1 juvenile bull snakes: Oscar and Phoebe; 3 baby red-sided garters; 1.1 macklot's pythons
rwg is offline  
Login to remove ads
Old 02-02-05, 11:50 PM   #2
ChurleR
Member
 
ChurleR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug-2004
Location: US
Age: 41
Posts: 78
Send a message via AIM to ChurleR
I'm used to it being Bitis nasicornis, it's own species, never really heard of anyone referring to a rhino viper a subspecie of Gaboons.
ChurleR is offline  
Old 02-03-05, 07:51 AM   #3
rwg
Member
 
Join Date: Jul-2003
Location: ON
Posts: 528
Think I figured it out:

b. gabonica gabonica: east African gaboon viper
b. gabonica rhinoceros: west African gaboon viper
b. nasicornis: rhinoceros viper

That abgout right?
__________________
1 adult bull snake: "Dozer"; 1.1 juvenile bull snakes: Oscar and Phoebe; 3 baby red-sided garters; 1.1 macklot's pythons
rwg is offline  
Old 02-03-05, 09:41 AM   #4
ETET
Member
 
ETET's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan-2003
Posts: 267
A recent taxonomy research about bitis gabonica and nasicornis:

Lenk et al. (1999) used molecular data (immunological distances and mitochondrial DNA sequences) to estimate the phylogenetic relationships among species of Bitis. They identified four principal monophyletic groups, which they classify as subgenera of the genus Bitis: (i) subgenus Bitis contains the single species B. arietans; (ii) subgenus Macrocerastes contains B. gabonica, B. nasicornis, and probably B. parviocula; (iii) subgenus Calechidna contains the smaller species of Bitis from southern Africa; (iv) subgenus Keniabitis contains only Bitis worthingtoni, from Kenya.
Subgenera are of limited importance for nomenclatural purposes: all the species can continue to be referred to simply as Bitis spp., without concern for subgeneric classification. However, the definition of subgenera within a genus often precedes a full split into several genera. Consequently, those interested in these snakes or their venoms would be well advised to familiarise themselves with these new subgenera.
In addition to the broader study of the subgenera of Bitis, Lenk et al. (1999) also noted a considerable degree of differentiation between the two conventionally recognised subspecies of Bitis gabonica: B. g. gabonica and B. g. rhinoceros are as differentiated from each other as each is from B. nasicornis. In consequence, Lenk et al. (1999) consider the western form of the Gaboon viper to be a separate species, Bitis rhinoceros. The apparently ancient divergence between B. gabonica and B. rhinoceros suggests that comparisons of venom composition and antivenom effectiveness between the two species may be required.

Abstract from: Lenk, P., H.-W. Herrmann, U. Joger, & M. Wink (1999) Phylogeny and taxonomic subdivision of Bitis (Reptilia: Viperidae) based on molecular evidence. Kaupia, 8: 31-38.

Don't know if this answer your question or not?

ETET
__________________
Ha! Ha!
:w
ETET is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:35 AM.

Powered by vBulletin®
©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2002-2023, Hobby Solutions.

right