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03-14-04, 05:09 PM
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Identification if you could?
Thank you.
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03-14-04, 05:09 PM
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Whoa that is way too small let me redo it.
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2.1.8 Arney A Corn 2002(Maze) Normal Corn 2000(Jewel)Sunglow Corn 1999(Blaze) & Babies
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03-14-04, 05:15 PM
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Hope this is better. Thank you Jamie
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2.1.8 Arney A Corn 2002(Maze) Normal Corn 2000(Jewel)Sunglow Corn 1999(Blaze) & Babies
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03-14-04, 05:33 PM
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scarlet kingsnake i think
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03-14-04, 05:43 PM
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Top looks like a tricolor Hondo to me.
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03-14-04, 05:46 PM
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I think they are 2 different species? Correct me if I am wrong.
Pueblan and Sinaloan Milksnakes? but I could be wrong.
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1.1.7 BCI'S 1999 2000(Abee & Sully(Proven)& babies)
2.1.8 Arney A Corn 2002(Maze) Normal Corn 2000(Jewel)Sunglow Corn 1999(Blaze) & Babies
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03-14-04, 05:49 PM
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A Honduran and a Sinaloan would be my guess.
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03-14-04, 07:27 PM
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I have a Pueblan and he looks just like the one with the apricot coloring. The bottom and biggest snake in the picture.
Here is a picture of my milk.
http://www.pbase.com/image/17637526
Hope the link works
Jamie
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1.1.7 BCI'S 1999 2000(Abee & Sully(Proven)& babies)
2.1.8 Arney A Corn 2002(Maze) Normal Corn 2000(Jewel)Sunglow Corn 1999(Blaze) & Babies
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03-14-04, 07:41 PM
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Nelson's and a hondo. Nelson's have a higher triad count than a sinaloan. The bottom looks like muddy tricolor hondo. Pueblans have a wider white band than the snake on the bottom (relative to each other, not the picture).
Nelson vs Sinaloan
http://www.king snake.com/critter/nelvsin.htm
A shot of the heads would help a lot more.
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03-14-04, 07:49 PM
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We need head and belly shots please.
With all the mixing and matching going on these days it's a nightmare out there.
The one on the bottom right looks like a Sinaloan/Nelsons and appears to be a female.
The one on the left,which looks like a male could be a honduran, a Nelsons, a weird Pueblan or any mix of the above. Lets see heads and bellys
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03-15-04, 11:59 PM
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The one on the bottom looks like a Pueblan Milksnake, and the one on the top looks like a Sinaloan Milksnake.
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03-16-04, 01:21 AM
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I don't have head and belly shots. This guy is trying to sell them off as Sinaloans. This is the only picture he has posted and since I already called him on that fact that the 2 snakes look to be milksnakes yes but different species he is avoiding me all together. I just wanted to make sure that I was correct or almost right. Thank you to all that have replied I guess I will not be looking into buying these snakes from this breeder. Thanks again Jamie
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1.1.7 BCI'S 1999 2000(Abee & Sully(Proven)& babies)
2.1.8 Arney A Corn 2002(Maze) Normal Corn 2000(Jewel)Sunglow Corn 1999(Blaze) & Babies
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03-16-04, 01:53 PM
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I've seen the pic before and the ad. He says they are sinaloans and that the "orange" or whatever popped up in his colony some time back I think. They could very well be, but it seems like there might be more going on. Talking with Bob Applegate, his ideas on nelsoni and sinaloae are that they may be the same snake anyway. Who knows?
:Mark
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03-16-04, 02:28 PM
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Mark: I also saw the ad.
BlueWheeler: May I inquire why you are asking what we think these ssp. are when you have them up for sale as Sinaloans on another site?
Brian
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03-17-04, 11:14 AM
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Classic - I don't have them for sale. That is not my ad. It belongs to another guy.
I do have an ad for a Pueblan on the other site. But these are two different ads. I inquired because I thought maybe I would learn more about the milksnakes in general. The other reason is because I beleive that he is breeding different species of Milks. That is the reason I asked for Identification.
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