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03-02-04, 08:12 AM
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Tv Personalities On Hot Handling
It seams that a lot of people are starting to ask question and make reference to Television personalities and their handling of hots lately.
I have actually been debating about making a post on this for a while but feel it should be done. If you like them fine if not IM not sorry for my opinions.
First and foremost these people want the ratings so they can see the profits not only the one doing the handling but their bosses at the network. There are definitely a couple true drama experts on the camera. They enjoy pushing the envelope well beyond safe levels. I can only draw a conclusion of shock and danger factor for ratings.
If you think their jobs are cool and you want to be just like them. I have to ask is the Undertakers job cool too and would you like to meet him as a client?
There are also a few who portray a much more realistic view of what happens in a field biologist life and yes they do dramatize it as well for ratings.
Most of these people have years of handling skills under their belt. Keeping in mind that there are tricks to reducing the odds of a venomous bite for camera work such as Chilling or Narcotics or Venomoids and certainly Camera angles. Not to mention a full safety crew and emergency team on hand.
What we see is a final well edited version of what really happened and I am certain the editors are looking for drama and shock factors for the final cut. After all it is TV and ratings mean money to them. Please never try what you see them do. Enjoy their show for what it is when you watch it and do not condone the activities they perform if it is so obviously dangerous. Standing up and supporting any of these people on the camera when they do something so stupid or dangerous just gives them a car blanch to keep doing it. Sooner or later someone will meet the Undertaker because of one of these fools action on camera when a person tries to imitate them. The animals are beautiful but to be honest how many I often wonder are out of private collections or zoo stock. I have seen a lot of Imported animals and just cant remember the last time I saw one in such a flawless perfect coloration that these shows often show.
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03-02-04, 08:50 AM
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MUSTANGRDEL:
Nice post, very well thought out and expressed - I agree with it , that my 2 cents.
Cya...
Tony
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03-02-04, 09:13 AM
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Squamata Concepts
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Just to give you an idea and to back up what Scott said about the animals being used in the shows........ There is a dumba$$ that goes by the name of Austin Stevens....... In one of his segments he jumps into a river and plucks a 4 to 5 foot gaboon from it........ He was in East Africa......... The map before the segment gave his exact locality......... The funny thing was he pulled a West African gaboon viper from the body of water........ And if anyone has ever seen a wild gaboon viper you know for sure it looks nothing like what he pulled out from that water......... Besides that mistake, He had the thing by its tail and when he got it to the clearing, he handled the thing like it was a ball python....... This is the same show where the idiot got tagged by two venomous snakes.......
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03-02-04, 02:15 PM
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Awe Gregg i was trying so hard not to mention names LOL even edited myself 10 times for use of the "S.I." word. Great and valid points though... and I dont think for one minute a mainline injection from a cobra and he would have been out withen a few hours to find the " eaxact same snake" well unless he had it in a hot box the whole time.
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03-02-04, 03:59 PM
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Scott, when are you going to make a tv show? Maybe you could use it to debunk some of the myths about hots. It would also give you a better excuse to indulge yourself with your Dendroaspis addiction...
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When in Texas it snows, even if my collection grows, the number of snakes to feed is less.
When they come out of brumation, the crots start copulation, and my photo gallery becomes a mess!
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03-02-04, 04:03 PM
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Josh actually as you know there is one in the early stages trying to be put together by myself and Julio. Unfortuantely Dendros are not yet invasive to FL so I will have to suffer with the iggys lol. By the way will you hurry up and get your butt down here your Pigmy is eating me out of house and mouse. What do I look like im runnning a pigmy rattler motel, um dont answer that. you either ray
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03-02-04, 04:06 PM
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Dont answer that? You think I can leave that alone?!?! Hmm...pigmy rattler motel....do you actually think you AREN'T running one? Lets see if you don't think so in say, I dunno, September?? What was it last year? 9,243,567 S.m.barbouri??
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When in Texas it snows, even if my collection grows, the number of snakes to feed is less.
When they come out of brumation, the crots start copulation, and my photo gallery becomes a mess!
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03-02-04, 04:09 PM
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Lmao.... no not quite that few man. And you should talk Mr Copperhead Gravid female ambulance service for the great state of Texas.
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03-02-04, 04:12 PM
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Hey, its not my fault if the BB's on our ranch are easy! I'm just there to help out. Maybe I should start some maternity classes for them...planned parenthood for coppers anyone?
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When in Texas it snows, even if my collection grows, the number of snakes to feed is less.
When they come out of brumation, the crots start copulation, and my photo gallery becomes a mess!
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03-02-04, 06:05 PM
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Oh yeah, on that note Scott, did you get my pigmy knocked up yet? You know I prefer my female snakes to be gravid when I get them...
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When in Texas it snows, even if my collection grows, the number of snakes to feed is less.
When they come out of brumation, the crots start copulation, and my photo gallery becomes a mess!
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03-02-04, 06:11 PM
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Um actually i just took the males out of the feamles and the dirty should be done.
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03-07-04, 10:30 AM
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Heh i just watched Austin again last night. He was trying to find O. hannah. The one he found was massive and very well marked im curious who owns that beauty.lol
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03-07-04, 10:53 AM
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Squamata Concepts
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Well, you know it was not a wild caught.......LOL...... I dont think the markings on that King are found on them in the area he was supposed to be.................LOL
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03-07-04, 11:54 AM
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Do you guys think any one host is more professional than the rest ? In regards to handling hots.
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03-07-04, 12:46 PM
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Deffinately. There are host that use proper safe handling equiptment. I would put these as more professional then those looking for ratings by using the preceived danger involved in freehandling for ratings. Also ones that use Scientific names for identification lend more creadance to their shows as well as giving proper " locataions" they are in and actually using the proper species native to that area.
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