Cross breeding snake species..

[DLLNP]

To each their own, but something about this just seems so wrong to me. Would love to hear other opinions.



Dillon

[Bandit]

I've never been a fan of hybrids. To each their own, but I really do enjoy the animals as they appear in nature much more than I do hybrids, or even morphs.

[DLLNP]

Originally Posted by Bandit

I've never been a fan of hybrids. To each their own, but I really do enjoy the animals as they appear in nature much more than I do hybrids, or even morphs.

My thoughts exactly. Not to mention any biogical issues that may arise from cross breeding... I mean blood's and carpet''s are not closely related at all. Compared to something like carpets and gtp... although I'm not for that either

[EL Ziggy]

I'm not a fan of cross breeding different species but some of the carpondros are beautiful and don't seem to have any known health issues at least none that I'm aware of.

[dave himself]

I like some of the hybrids, especially some of the ones which can occurre in the wild. Such as Bateaters, Cateaters and Gambino, just a personal preference not looking to start a war with anyone

[dannybgoode]

As a locality philistine I cannot think of anything worse! Given people have even started crossing rare snakes like Boelens pythons I think it's truly dreadful where some people are taking it.

@Dave - out of interest as there any recorded occurrences of natural cross breeding?

[pet_snake_78]

Definitely not a fan.

[dave himself]

Originally Posted by dannybgoode

As a locality philistine I cannot think of anything worse! Given people have even started crossing rare snakes like Boelens pythons I think it's truly dreadful where some people are taking it.

@Dave - out of interest as there any recorded occurrences of natural cross breeding?

I'm not sure Danny I never really checked, I maybe should have written COULD appear in the wild. Anyway like I said, I lime them

[dannybgoode]

Originally Posted by dave himself

I'm not sure Danny I never really checked, I maybe should have written COULD appear in the wild. Anyway like I said, I lime them

That's what I was interested to know - whether it was a theoretical thing due to location of recorded.

Of course there is natural crossing of some of the B constrictor and B Imperator species so it's not beyond the realms of possibility.

[Minkness]

I actually like them. I find it rather interesting biologically speaking, and most that I have seen are also rather beautiful. I am particularly fond of the carpet/gtp crosses and will be lookingbinto getting a biak male to pair with my IJ female at some distant point in the future. Burmballs are another rather interesting mix as well.

As for the rarer animals being mixed, I don't know exactly how I feel about that. The way I see is is that so long as the females are bred to the same species of male to produce more of the same, then the males can otherwise be bred to whatever else since it doesn't really affect the number of new same species babies if all the females are already bread to the same male....I hope that makes sense.

But yeah, outside of known health issues and locality purists, I see no reason not to cross breed. No offence to those who do like those pure localities. =)

[dave himself]

Originally Posted by dannybgoode

That's what I was interested to know - whether it was a theoretical thing due to location of recorded.

Of course there is natural crossing of some of the B constrictor and B Imperator species so it's not beyond the realms of possibility.

I remember reading years ago that cottonmouths and copperhead crosses have been found in the wild, sounds a bit mad to me, but who knows

[SerpentineDream]

Not a huge fan of Frankensnaking.

I do have some natural intergrade house snakes and one hybrid that I originally thought was a pure Nelson's milk snake with unusually orange vs. yellow bands but that turned out to be a cross with an Apricot Pueblan milk snake. He's gorgeous but I'll never breed him.

As long as they aren't causing harm (i.e., crossing very rare localities with other subspecies such as what's happened to the Hog Island boa, or being released / escaping into wild populations) then I guess people should buy whatever they like.

[dave himself]

Originally Posted by SerpentineDream

Not a huge fan of Frankensnaking.

I do have some natural intergrade house snakes and one hybrid that I originally thought was a pure Nelson's milk snake with unusually orange vs. yellow bands but that turned out to be a cross with an Apricot Pueblan milk snake. He's gorgeous but I'll never breed him.

As long as they aren't causing harm (i.e., crossing very rare localities with other subspecies such as what's happened to the Hog Island boa, or being released / escaping into wild populations) then I guess people should buy whatever they like.

I would never agree with muddying the gene pool with rare snakes. But with the likes of burms and retics you pay an awful lot more for crosses. Although I will admit trying to get a pure Burmese is getting harder, they're usually het this or het that. But then again thinking about it that's nothing to do with crossing with another species. But that's a whole different conversation.

[Trouser Snake]

I'd be interested to see what they all look like but I'd never get involved in it myself, especially if it involved the diluting of a gene pool of a rare subspecies etc, ok people will differ in opinion to me and others who have commented and hybrids will continue to be born in captivity, but as long as the majority of people are just breeding pure species and this hybrid breeding idea doesn't get too popular. As far as health issues go there is the age old anecdote of "hybrid vigour".... How true this holds with reptiles, I don't know lol... But my personal preference is to enjoy natural species.

[Trouser Snake]

Originally Posted by DLLNP

To each their own, but something about this just seems so wrong to me. Would love to hear other opinions.



Dillon

Just looks like a big sand boa with a pythons head.