Champagne pricing?

Eragon3 · 09-24-16, 08:58 PM

I've owned various lizards and snakes but never a BP. I have, however, done extensive research and feel like I really want to get one! So as I'm scrolling through Craigslist I come across a gorgeous snake listed as a Champagne. I'm vaguely familiar with this morph but I was wondering if someone could confirm it as well as tell me what they typically go for. He's listed for 85$

**Minkness** · 09-24-16, 09:06 PM

85$ is a pretty sweet deal on that morph. =)

Eragon3 · 09-24-16, 09:08 PM

He originally wanted 100$ but came down to 85$. I'm so excited, this guy is stunning

JellyBean · 09-24-16, 09:13 PM

Looks like you found yourself a new snake!
Just make sure not to pay in advance... There are many decent folks on Craigslist, but a few shady ones as well

macandchz · 09-25-16, 09:56 AM

that is a great price, i'd take the chance and hope you get what you paid for. anxious to see a picture.

macandchz · 09-25-16, 10:01 AM

sorry about that! i mis-understood. is that a picture of the one you are getting? did you already get him? he looks real nice!

Eragon3 · 09-25-16, 03:06 PM

That's the one I'm getting. I've already met with the guy and seen the snake, so I know it's legit. I put down a deposit while I finish setting up for him

JellyBean · 09-25-16, 05:08 PM

Congratulations!
Be sure to post new pics when you get him.

Albert Clark · 09-25-16, 10:08 PM

Champagnes are a very nice morph but beware they are a morph that has issues. Neurological issues as in a "wobble". Make sure you discuss this with the seller. Many times a wobble can be almost unnoticeable and other times the snake can be a train wreck! He may be trying to unload a problem snake on you. Be careful.

**Minkness** · 09-25-16, 10:17 PM

I had never heard that about champagnes. =(

Albert Clark · 09-25-16, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Minkness

I had never heard that about champagnes. =(

Yeah Mink, champagnes are problematic! Beautiful morph but like the spider gene is known to suffer with a wobble. Which can be definitely dealt with and usually won't affect the thriving ability of the animal. Certain triggering factors are associated with the presentation.

Eragon3 · 09-26-16, 01:45 AM

Sorry if it's a stupid question but what is 'wobble' and how will it affect my snake? I've heard it used when talking about the spider gene as you mentioned but never champagnes. Is it a health issue?

Albert Clark · 09-26-16, 10:17 AM

Hey Era! Sure, wobble is a term used in the hobby about certain morphs that display shaking, tremors, and or abnormal positioning and muscular contractions as they navigate around the enclosure. They can crawl upside down, sway back and forth, and even corkscrew. It's a neurological issue that is genetic and various individuals have different degrees of severity. Stress and feeding times have been cited as some of the triggering factors.

**Aaron_S** · 09-26-16, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

Champagnes are a very nice morph but beware they are a morph that has issues. Neurological issues as in a "wobble". Make sure you discuss this with the seller. Many times a wobble can be almost unnoticeable and other times the snake can be a train wreck! He may be trying to unload a problem snake on you. Be careful.

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Originally Posted by Albert Clark

Yeah Mink, champagnes are problematic! Beautiful morph but like the spider gene is known to suffer with a wobble. Which can be definitely dealt with and usually won't affect the thriving ability of the animal. Certain triggering factors are associated with the presentation.

I believe this to be misinformation. I am friends with the largest breeder of champagnes in Canada and I've never seen it in one of his animals or has he mentioned it while I've been over.

Eragon3 · 09-26-16, 04:55 PM

Thank you guys! I pick him up tomorrow with a complete health guarantee. I'll be sure to post pictures