New 60 gallon cage for my 2 ball pythons. can they both lvie in it?

DCsharkz · 02-23-05, 08:40 PM

i just bought my ball pythons a 60 gallon cage.... my question is can they live in it for there entire lives, since one can live in a 60 for the whole life but can 2?

sapphire_moon · 02-23-05, 08:46 PM

no, bp's are solitary, and should not be housed together unless breeding.
it is TO easy to get a cage for a second bp to house them together (sterilites/rubbermaids).

edit:
guess I should explain why huh, lol.

like I said, they are solitary.
even if you were to take them out to feed, you won't know who went to the bathroom, and when, you won't know (if it happens) who regurged.
If one is sick, you better assume both are, and just take both to the vet, doubling your bill.

Get a piece of plexiglass, and aquarium sealent, and divide it. Or get a sterilite/rubbermaid. Neither is very hard to do.

DCsharkz · 02-23-05, 08:56 PM

i know its not recommended, but that is not what i asked, i asked if they could live in there together for there entire life

DCsharkz · 02-23-05, 09:36 PM

sorry, thanks for your opinion

Tim_Cranwill · 02-23-05, 09:42 PM

I think you already know the answer then... Yes, they CAN live (survive) in there but no, it's NOT recommended. But you need to ask yourself a question... do you want two healthy snakes or do you want to save maybe $50? Only YOU can answer that.

If your answer was save $50, do the snakes a favor and sell one...

HeatherRose · 02-23-05, 09:52 PM

Ball pythons can be put in a lot of situations where yeah, they can 'survive'...

If it's a money issue, it might end up costing so much more in the end... one snake gets sick, they both get sick = two vet bills...

Although I don't see why someone who would keep them together would bother taking them to the vet

DCsharkz · 02-23-05, 09:52 PM

ahh im not the wealthiest person.. and neither is my dad... who buys this stuff for me.. and there both healthy.. two fattys lol.

Asian Jon · 02-23-05, 10:38 PM

For the well being of the snakes you should really let one of them go until YOU can finance another snake. This will not only devote your care for one of them, but it will also work out better for your tight 'budget.' When you have enough money to house another snake separately then get another one. Right now it seems as though you are dependent on your dad to buy stuff for you which is brewing for trouble if you ask me

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malaysianbloods · 02-23-05, 10:59 PM

I hope that you and your dad don't get into an argument and he says that you have to pay for the snakes food and other expences and then you end up not having money and they have to suffer for it. Hope everything go's well.

jason23 · 02-24-05, 03:14 AM

i would divide the tanks so its 30/30 if its not a too tall it should be sufficient housing for them

HeatherRose · 02-24-05, 09:58 AM

An extra Rubbermaid is 8$...

Vengeance · 02-24-05, 10:22 AM

Although most of us know what the best option for the snake’s health and well being is it seems pretty obvious that DC has the answer he seeks already and was just coming here for justification of his bad husbandry habits.

So to answer your already pre answered question, no I don't think that a 60 gallon tank is big enough for 2 Ball pythons for their entire lives. I think it is too big for when they are sub adults as they will get stressed out from not only living with each other but also because they are so small and are in such a large space. Also when they become adults I also don't think it will be large enough because you will not have enough room in the tank to create multiple heat gradient areas so that the Ball pythons, being the solitary creatures that they are, can choose to use an area that isn't already being used by another ball python.

So to answer your pre-answered question, no a 60 gallon will not meet the needs to provide a stress free and healthy environment for 2 Ball pythons.

wizbit13 · 02-24-05, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by DCsharkz
ahh im not the wealthiest person.. and neither is my dad... who buys this stuff for me.. and there both healthy.. two fattys lol.

You have already caused an argument over this topic on another forum, so you already have your answer. Why you feel the need to bring this up in this forum aswell I have no idea. Maybe you like to cause arguments?? This topic always gets people attention, and pisses a lot of people off.

Adam

sapphire_moon · 02-24-05, 01:25 PM

neither am I, but I have alot of animals (11) that might one day need vet care, and one that requires heart meds and water pills. Deal with it.
A rubbermaid/sterilite cost under 10$ oh now your gonna use the "what about the extra heat pad" you dont' need one, just set the cages side by side and put the pad between them, problem solved.

What are you gonna do when you "grow up" and move out?

get a job, go shovel, rake, mow a lawn or babysit, or pet sit, sell lemonade, walk old ladies across the street! lol There are many "job" opprotunities around to make money if you are willing to do the work.

Artemis · 02-24-05, 04:25 PM

A divider is a good idea. Snakes housed together is not. Size is more than adequate, even for both of them.

If your snakes are of the same gender, they may become territorial and aggressive, even cannibalistic to one another. If they are a m/f pair, then uncontrolled breeding will significantly shorten the life of your female BP, and will end up with a female who needs a lot more routine care, as well as either unwanted eggs or a ton of babies you arent prepared to care for, either. A female becoming egg bound can kill the female or result in astronomical vet bills.

The additional cost of adding a tupperware and heating pad is minimal, and would be more ideal for your snakes.

Good luck-

Artemis