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11-28-12, 10:51 AM
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Upper Respiratory Infection
I currently have a Male boa who weighs about 2lbs 9oz. I have been trying to get him into seeing a vet since he refuses to eat and has a little wheezing sound to him. All the vets in my area refuses to see him since they don't deal in exotics and of course hes a big scary snake, go figure! I was wondering if there is anything I can do at home until I can find a vet who will see him. I also have a female that's housed with him so I suspect that she may have one as well although she hasn't shown any signs. I live in New Brunswick Canada if anyone knows of any vets that are decent.
Thanks =)
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11-28-12, 11:00 AM
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Re: Upper Respiratory Infection
They should not be housed together number 1 but that wasn't the question...
I believe raising the temperatures and humidity can help. Try looking into the bigger universities in your area, some of them have veterinary programs..
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11-28-12, 11:04 AM
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Re: Upper Respiratory Infection
Raise humidity so he can get out all that gunk, raise temps up a bit to help get his body into fight mode. You could give him a soak if all else fails but a vet is your best bet.
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11-28-12, 11:06 AM
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Morelia Enjoyus Maximus
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Re: Upper Respiratory Infection
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Originally Posted by lady_bug87
They should not be housed together number 1 but that wasn't the question...
I believe raising the temperatures and humidity can help. Try looking into the bigger universities in your area, some of them have veterinary programs..
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You raise the temps but reduce humidity not raise.
What is the humidity at now? Typicaly you drop it a bit if it is where it should be in the first place. Unless you are breeding you should seperate them right away.
Post you temps and set up please.
There is a good method of helping ri if you can'tget a vet using 2 tubs and some vics vapo rub in boiling water. Google it. Works great but only on mild cases.
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11-28-12, 11:30 AM
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Re: Upper Respiratory Infection
Humidity is 40 right now, Temps are 85 Hot 80 Cold.
I have had them housed together for over 4 months now with out an issue.
I'm waiting for his terrarium to come in that's why they are housed together.
Anyways, I looked in his mouth and he does have a few bubbles in it. The female on the other hand does not and hasn't shown any signs of being sick. I have been checking her weight and shes still staying fine.
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11-28-12, 11:50 AM
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Morelia Enjoyus Maximus
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Re: Upper Respiratory Infection
Ok forgive me here this is not what you will want to hear but the truth is your snake is sick because of improper care. Others will come on here and say the same. Not going to sugar coat but 40% is way to low for a bci. You should be around 56-60%. When I say to lower it I am talking about down to 50% your is way to low. Waiting for a tank is no excuse for cohabitating snakes. Get the viv first then the snake. What are your temps? What caresheet are you following? You do realize rour other snake will get sick too right?
Ok read caresheets for your boas. They will not survive poor husbandry.
I suggest you fix the husbandy issues then treat the ri. Drugs will not work if living conditions are wrong.
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11-28-12, 11:56 AM
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Re: Upper Respiratory Infection
You want a basking spot of about 92, mine do well with this.... 85 is not hot enough im afraid. How are you heating the viv?
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11-28-12, 12:08 PM
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Re: Upper Respiratory Infection
Ok for one I did as I was told by the vet, I was to lower it so I did. No one informed me until now what to lower it to. Its usually at 55%. And I use a radiant heat panel for heat but I can/am switching to their light to provide more heat.
Please enlighten me on the issues of cohabitation because from the people I have talked to and a few breeders I know quite a few people who cohabitant their bci. I would never do it with pythons or anything but I've never had an issue. Both snakes are not fed together, they are put in separate containers to ensure they eat and are kept in them for 24 hours before being placed together and that's after I clean them to make sure they don't have anything on them from their prey that they have eaten.
I'm very much aware that my other snake will get sick as well. Thanks for answering the obvious. All I'm looking for is a way to treat them at home until I find a vet who is willing to see them and is capable of treating them. I do my best to ensure my snakes get proper care and do have them seen by a vet when I get them. That being said they are not able to deal in treating the snakes because they only know the basics.
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11-28-12, 12:19 PM
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Re: Upper Respiratory Infection
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Originally Posted by Terranaut
You raise the temps but reduce humidity not raise.
What is the humidity at now? Typicaly you drop it a bit if it is where it should be in the first place. Unless you are breeding you should seperate them right away.
Post you temps and set up please.
There is a good method of helping ri if you can'tget a vet using 2 tubs and some vics vapo rub in boiling water. Google it. Works great but only on mild cases.
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Thanks I will keep that in mind
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Originally Posted by JoleneVissers
Ok for one I did as I was told by the vet, I was to lower it so I did. No one informed me until now what to lower it to. Its usually at 55%. And I use a radiant heat panel for heat but I can/am switching to their light to provide more heat.
Please enlighten me on the issues of cohabitation because from the people I have talked to and a few breeders I know quite a few people who cohabitant their bci. I would never do it with pythons or anything but I've never had an issue. Both snakes are not fed together, they are put in separate containers to ensure they eat and are kept in them for 24 hours before being placed together and that's after I clean them to make sure they don't have anything on them from their prey that they have eaten.
I'm very much aware that my other snake will get sick as well. Thanks for answering the obvious. All I'm looking for is a way to treat them at home until I find a vet who is willing to see them and is capable of treating them. I do my best to ensure my snakes get proper care and do have them seen by a vet when I get them. That being said they are not able to deal in treating the snakes because they only know the basics.
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Your temperatures are all messed up and it's waay too dry. Since snakes are solitary cohabitation of a male and female can result in unwanted breeding, cage aggression, and stress
And if you had a vet to tell you what to do then why can't they treat the snake? Sterilite tubs are cost efficient, come in appropriate sizes and maintain humidity and are readily available at most big box stores like Walmart or Canadian tire. So there is no excuse to cohabitate especially if one animal is ill
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11-28-12, 12:21 PM
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Re: Upper Respiratory Infection
What vet told you to lower it if you said you can't find a vet to take them too because they don't specialize in snakes. Most vets do not know the basic care of even common species of snakes.
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11-28-12, 12:37 PM
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Re: Upper Respiratory Infection
The vet is the St Andrews Vet Hospital. He said he has learned a bit about snakes when he was attending the PEI vet collage but said he was unsure on how to treat the snakes for anything. I then called the Fairview Animal Hopsital in Halifax Nova Scotia and he said that it is an Upper Respiratory Infection and to get one of my local vets to treat them. I then called the Mayfield Vet Clinic in town but they said they weren't able to treat the snakes and it would be best to take them to PEI. well I live about 5 hours away from PEI and its the starting of winter so I'm trying to get things figured out on how exactly I'm going to transport 2 snakes in a car for 5 hours and make sure they are kept warm properly.
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11-28-12, 12:39 PM
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Re: Upper Respiratory Infection
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Originally Posted by JoleneVissers
The vet is the St Andrews Vet Hospital. He said he has learned a bit about snakes when he was attending the PEI vet collage but said he was unsure on how to treat the snakes for anything. I then called the Fairview Animal Hopsital in Halifax Nova Scotia and he said that it is an Upper Respiratory Infection and to get one of my local vets to treat them. I then called the Mayfield Vet Clinic in town but they said they weren't able to treat the snakes and it would be best to take them to PEI. well I live about 5 hours away from PEI and its the starting of winter so I'm trying to get things figured out on how exactly I'm going to transport 2 snakes in a car for 5 hours and make sure they are kept warm properly.
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Did you read my above post of numbers and vets in your area?
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11-28-12, 12:40 PM
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Diesel the pumpkin killer
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Re: Upper Respiratory Infection
If you do have to transport them.. Place them each in a pillow case and tie it shut. Then place the pillow cases in a plastic tub with air holes in the tub. Place the tub on top of heat packs made for transporting reptiles.. simple enough.
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11-28-12, 12:42 PM
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Re: Upper Respiratory Infection
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11-28-12, 12:43 PM
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Re: Upper Respiratory Infection
Make sure the tubs are only just big enough to get them in... Stops them slamming into the side if the tub when you turn a corner!
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