Anybody working w/ Chinese Cave Geckos??

Katatonic · 01-13-03, 06:30 PM

I would like to know if anyone is working w/ Chinese Cave Geckos, also known taxonomically as "Goniurosaurus luii"?? I've had a colony of them for just over a year now, and I'm attempting my first breeding of this species *I THINK MY GIRL'S GRAVID!! : ) *. If anyone is, I'd be interested in swapping any info available that you've found, or on your own successes w/ this species. Alright, talk to y'all later.

ReptileHQ · 01-13-03, 06:39 PM

Neil meister of Nova scotia has had success with this species.
You can reach him through www.gekkota.com . He is the promotions secretary for the Global Gecko Association and the president of the Nova Scotia Herpetoculture Society.

Let me know if you can't find him

Chris

Katatonic · 01-13-03, 06:44 PM

Thanks Buddy. Much appreciated.
LATER.

Clownfishie · 01-15-03, 02:20 PM

I think that Tarzet's is working with them too...

Youkai · 01-15-03, 06:17 PM

::Waves::

I'm working G. luii and G. k. splendens.

HQReptiles · 01-15-03, 06:48 PM

Youkai do you have any pictures of the G. k. splendens?

A few years back we had a couple of females but were never able to locate a male.

Thanks,

Matt.

Youkai · 01-15-03, 07:32 PM

I've got quite a few actually...

There are three different cameras at work here..lol.

A bad shot of them both:

<img src="http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/133dscn0022.jpg">

This is the female:

<img src="http://uroplatus.net/albums/youkaispics/gonihead.jpg">
<img src="http://uroplatus.net/albums/youkaispics/abx.jpg">

The male:

<img src="http://uroplatus.net/albums/youkaispics/abz.jpg">
<img src="http://uroplatus.net/albums/youkaispics/acb.jpg">

Some babies:

<img src="http://uroplatus.net/albums/youkaispics/aby.jpg">
<img src="http://uroplatus.net/albums/youkaispics/aca.jpg">
<img src="http://www.ssnakess.com/photopost/data/500/133juviegoni.jpg">
Where did you get your females from? If you ever produce them again let me know. I haven't found anyone in the country to swap babies with yet. :/

Katatonic · 01-15-03, 11:31 PM

CHRIS @ REPTILESHQ: Could you please e-mail me that contact for Neil Meister?? I couldn't figure out how to get a hold of him thru gekkota.com, lol. Thanks in advance.

YOUKAI: Obviously you've had a number of successes w/ splendens, what about w/ luii?? I'm interested particularly in regards to incubation temps for 50/50 sex ratios on them... I can't find anything specific or informative.

Youkai · 01-16-03, 07:53 AM

I haven't actually been able to breed my luii yet. I got them in ROUGH shape and they are just getting out of the woods now.
From what I understand however, they are not TSD. Much like some Coleonyx, temperature plays no part. So basically...you'll get around 50/50 either way.
I'll PM you Neil's e-mail.

Katatonic · 01-17-03, 12:21 AM

Oh... really, they're not TSD?? Damn... This is what I mean, I'm getting contradictory information from most sources on Goniurosaurus... From what I understood, all Eublepharines were Temperature Sex Determined during incubation. I've found this to be true with coleonyx brevis, coleonyx mitratus, coleonyx variegatus, leopards, fat-tails... All of those atleast. Which coleonyx are you under the influence are not temperature sexed??
Hopefully I have some success w/ hatching some luii in the near future.
LATER people.

Youkai · 01-17-03, 12:46 PM

Well, I was told and also experienced that C. mitratus was not TSD. I hatched dozens and dozens of them. I tried different temps, and always got a 50/50 ratio of males to females. I also was under the impression that at least C. elegans was not TSD, but don't quote me on that one...

I might post this question the gekkota list serve :/

Katatonic · 01-18-03, 01:31 AM

Go ahead and post it... Just be sure to keep me informed on the answer you receive!!
Yea, I couldn't particularly find info on elegans... Heck... I couldn't even successfully raise mine for whatever reason... CB... yea right. Oh well *I'm kinda bitter about that one*.
But, C.mitratus, I've been breeding them for a while now, I find that at about 78F, I hatch all female, 82-84F I'm getting 50/50's and anything about that favours males... But I get a LOT dying from what I suspect to be heat stress on the embryos. These are just my observations however.
As I think it over again, post it on gekkota, I'm curious as to what they've found.
LATER.

Youkai · 01-18-03, 01:53 AM

Elegans are super sensitive to vit. D3....that might be part of the problem...
But yeah, I'll post to the list!

Katatonic · 01-19-03, 02:46 AM

Believe me, I was well prepared for the Vitamin D3 sensititivity... I had done research on a number of herpetological journals and other physiological articles regarding the genus coleonyx. I was prepared for that ahead of the time... But my elegans wouldn't feed properly... At all, to be more precise, despite, to the best of my knowledge, a flawless husbandry. To this day, I still don't understand what went wrong. The only other aspect I can think of is a bacterial/viral/parasitic infection that could have knocked them off. All of which I was lacking sufficient cash to have them checked for. But that was supposed to be the UPSIDE to buying Captive Bred. Hey, we all lose out now and then.

Katatonic · 01-19-03, 02:49 AM

When I had posted earlier, about not being able to acquire knowledge about the elegans, I meant that I was unable to find anyone to relate personal knowledge, and the only thing available were cold, sterile scientific writings, which offered nothing in regards to breeding. Just felt like clarifying further. Thanks for putting up with the babbling.
LATER!!