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05-06-12, 04:50 PM
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Uncle Brady
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Reptiles and attention
hey everyone! ive been thinking.. uh oh...... haha and i just came across a question.
What do you guys think about reptiles and interacting with them. for example; I have a bearded dragon and I pick him up and pay attention to him every 2 days hes still pretty young and doesnt like to be picked up for more than 30 mins. So my question is are reptiles like mammals and NEED to have attention on them everyday? Im pretty sure a day off when there young everyday is good.
He still gets fed everyday and water and cage maintence. I pay attention to my Sav cassie for usually half an hour. taking it VERY slow with her.
Any thoughts guys and gals?
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05-06-12, 04:53 PM
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Non Carborundum Illegitimi
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Re: Reptiles and attention
I think lizards need more interaction or enrichment than snakes do but as to whether they NEED it, no idea
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05-06-12, 05:00 PM
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Re: Reptiles and attention
I don't mess with my snakes much, aside from feeding them and changing water bowls or cage cleanings.
My lizards get some interaction every day.
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05-06-12, 05:07 PM
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Re: Reptiles and attention
I interact with my snakes every chance I get and they have the temperament to show for it.
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05-06-12, 05:56 PM
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Boa Boy Roy
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Re: Reptiles and attention
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Originally Posted by exwizard
I interact with my snakes every chance I get and they have the temperament to show for it.
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Me too. Although the Red Iguana I hope to have in the next couple weeks, from what I understand from his current human, need regular attention and talking to! I've never heard of an.iguana reacting to audio stimulation before, can anyone confirm?
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05-06-12, 06:00 PM
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Re: Reptiles and attention
I concur that frequent handling of snakes is only for the benefit of the handler in keeping their temperament calm. Not necessary for the snake's health.
As far as lizards go, my experience with them is limited because I only had Bearded Dragons for a few years. But with mine, they were more willing to "hang out" and seemed to be more social.
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05-06-12, 06:01 PM
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Diesel the pumpkin killer
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Re: Reptiles and attention
We had a green Iguana when I was growing up and it didn't necessarily react to what you where saying but It defiantly responded to voices. It didn't like my mom and would let her know to back off the second she spoke but he was fine with me. He was housed in a room just off the family room and if my mom was chatting on the phone near the room he would tail whip to make her move but I could walk right in and chat with him.
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05-06-12, 06:03 PM
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Re: Reptiles and attention
I leave mine all alone for the most part. I have some amazing handlers I can take out to show someone and I have some nervous handlers. None are really aggressive so I don't think handling HAS to happen for them to be handleable.
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05-06-12, 06:12 PM
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queen of the Chicken Dance
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Re: Reptiles and attention
I've cut back on the handling of all my animals quite a bit. I'll still take them out maybe once or twice a week, but only for short periods of time. I do admit i will take them out more if i'm having a bad day, emotionally wise. All of mine tolerate handling, but i know they don't need the attention or interaction.
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05-06-12, 06:14 PM
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Re: Reptiles and attention
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Originally Posted by Bradyloach
hey everyone! ive been thinking.. uh oh...... haha and i just came across a question.
What do you guys think about reptiles and interacting with them. for example; I have a bearded dragon and I pick him up and pay attention to him every 2 days hes still pretty young and doesnt like to be picked up for more than 30 mins. So my question is are reptiles like mammals and NEED to have attention on them everyday? Im pretty sure a day off when there young everyday is good.
He still gets fed everyday and water and cage maintence. I pay attention to my Sav cassie for usually half an hour. taking it VERY slow with her.
Any thoughts guys and gals?
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I would say the opposite is true for reptiles, they generally NEED not to be handled. I was just reading a study on stress indicators in reptiles the other day. While many reptiles do not show any outer indicators of stress handling, they still show an increase in stress hormones as a result. This is after years of being handled by a regular keeper. While it seems some animals just get used to people handling them, I think only the most intelligent of them are able to learn from it enough to not have it be stressful.
The other interesting thing is that these same studies showed that there is often a delayed reaction in many species between the stimulus and the signs of stress. Bearded dragons for instance have shown up to four hours between capture and stress indicators. So it may be that your dragon isn't liking things right away, but just not showing signs of it for a half hour. Just a thought.
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05-06-12, 06:34 PM
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Uncle Brady
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Re: Reptiles and attention
i really think the only thing a reptile gets from being handled is trust from the owner. You obvsously get way more from it then the reptile itself. my opinion tho!
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05-06-12, 08:19 PM
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Re: Reptiles and attention
I handle my snakes for my own sake. I enjoy it, they calm me, and it probably makes them more tolerable to it. I don't think either of my snakes need it though. I sometimes leave them for weeks and when I take them out again it's like no time went by. They don't care either way really. Kaybe pretty much relaxes and stays put, Pika likes to explore. But I don't think they NEED it, no
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05-06-12, 09:49 PM
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Young and Wise
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Re: Reptiles and attention
This is my opinion. I don't think snakes hate being out and they might enjoy it a little bit since they get to roam around a little bit more than being in there cage but for the most part it is for the owners benefit. Thats my 2cent
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05-07-12, 07:30 AM
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Re: Reptiles and attention
Other than feeding time, I rarely have much interaction with my reptiles, tortoises, lizards and snakes alike. It's really more of a "not enough hours in the day" issue more than anything else. I just don't have the time to go in and "play with my snakes" like I used to.
However, I don't really feel bad about it either, because they are reptiles and don't really need it from me. I keep them because they are fascinating in their own right, not because I wanted a companion animal I could have perch on my shoulder and handfeed. Yeah, it is fun and cool to do those things (and I'm not knocking it)...but all of that is fluff to why I really keep reptiles.
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05-07-12, 08:03 AM
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Formerly Lil_Boa
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Re: Reptiles and attention
other than snake,s i have a bearded dragon, and a tortoise...
my bearded dragon gets food/greens/water bowl changed every day to every other day. he will not let me hold him, pet him, touch him period... so i dont try (although i should i dont want to cause stress) i do hand feed him though.
my tortoise- i hold everyday, i pet his shell, and i had feed him too. i am in his cage about 3-4 times a day either watering, giving food, or hay, or misting.
snakes- i will hold my RTB, and my oldest Royal about everytime i get in their cage to clean ect... my corn doesnt really like to be help, but can.
others, just feed/clean/water, i will just pick them all up for about 2-3 min. ever now and then to help get use to being picked up, so when they are breeding they wont get all "bally" when i pick them up.
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