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Old 06-19-10, 10:10 PM   #1
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Cutting 101





Just wanted to share one of my newer...(well my newest!) Video! It's basically a how-to video on cutting Ball Python eggs. This isn't meant as a debate of whether to cut or no....just to show one way to do so if you chose to.

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Old 06-20-10, 01:59 PM   #2
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Re: Cutting 101

Well other than the super lame music not bad, note that there is no verbal instructions so mute is a desirable option LOL
As for manual pipping in most all cases a healthy snake will successfully pip on its own.
In my past experiences I have found that more often than not manulally pipped eggs have contained snakes that are smaller, weaker & quite often deformed (spinal kinking, extra heads etc.).
Even snakes that have had normal appearrances have proved to be problem feeders or just randomly up & die potentially due to unseen internal issues.
I know you asked for no debate but I thought I would throw those points out there for those wondering what the debate is about as many feel very strongly about weakening the captive gene pools with snakes that otherwise never would have hatched.
Mother nature afterall tends to have her reasons.
Also keep in mind that in many cases the first snake to pip may be days potentially even a week prior the last snake to pip.
Sometimes if manually pipped too early tehy will also leave early & not get the full benefit of the yolk they would have otherwsie absorbed or they will sometimes emerge with it still attached & drag it around with them risking a rupture of their stomach in the bellybutton area or potential infection due tot hat or via the yolksac they are draging around.
Advantages being that in some cases it saves an otherwise perfect baby that may have drown.
personally I will wait until most all have pipped/hatched on thier own & then cut the last few if any remain. I will quite often take ones that have pipped on thier own & make the slices larger as well.
I have had many times in the past perfectly healthy babies get scared & pull back in only to not finding their way back out & drown which really sucks so enlarging their "escape hatch" LOL is never a bad idea.
Not a bad video anyhow though as stated not my type of music LOL Cheers Mark
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Well other than the super lame music not bad, note that there is no verbal instructions so mute is a desirable option LOL
As for manual pipping in most all cases a healthy snake will successfully pip on its own.
In my past experiences I have found that more often than not manulally pipped eggs have contained snakes that are smaller, weaker & quite often deformed (spinal kinking, extra heads etc.).
Even snakes that have had normal appearrances have proved to be problem feeders or just randomly up & die potentially due to unseen internal issues.
I know you asked for no debate but I thought I would throw those points out there for those wondering what the debate is about as many feel very strongly about weakening the captive gene pools with snakes that otherwise never would have hatched.
Mother nature afterall tends to have her reasons.
Also keep in mind that in many cases the first snake to pip may be days potentially even a week prior the last snake to pip.
Sometimes if manually pipped too early tehy will also leave early & not get the full benefit of the yolk they would have otherwsie absorbed or they will sometimes emerge with it still attached & drag it around with them risking a rupture of their stomach in the bellybutton area or potential infection due tot hat or via the yolksac they are draging around.
Advantages being that in some cases it saves an otherwise perfect baby that may have drown.
personally I will wait until most all have pipped/hatched on thier own & then cut the last few if any remain. I will quite often take ones that have pipped on thier own & make the slices larger as well.
I have had many times in the past perfectly healthy babies get scared & pull back in only to not finding their way back out & drown which really sucks so enlarging their "escape hatch" LOL is never a bad idea.
Not a bad video anyhow though as stated not my type of music LOL Cheers Mark
I think I'm just gonna say thank you?
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LOL Cheers Mark
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Re: Cutting 101

I agree total with mark on this. Good video as far as the music. I needed a nap anyway. lol
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LOL Cheers Mark
lol couldn't help it!

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I agree total with mark on this. Good video as far as the music. I needed a nap anyway. lol

lol omg! You all are haters! (I am joking!!) The funny thing is when I first mixed it up, my boyfriend HATED the music I had with it so I ran around trying to get a different track....after about 3 hours of surfing Jamendo...I found this.. I can't win! Glad this isn't the lotto I'm playing!

And ty really for the comments.....it takes all kind in terms of music....but I do appreciate the feedback! Next time heavy metal? hmm...not sure that goes with eggs and babies!
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And ty really for the comments.....it takes all kind in terms of music....but I do appreciate the feedback! Next time heavy metal? hmm...not sure that goes with eggs and babies!
I was thinking some thing like a mad scientist would be listening to. Something evil and deranged like Bon Jovi. LOL. Rob Zombie would be perfect.
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I was thinking some thing like a mad scientist would be listening to. Something evil and deranged like Bon Jovi. LOL. Rob Zombie would be perfect.
lol yeah it would but.....problem was for me I was TRYING to keep it legal and since I had to fit it to the movie that I'd already finished....was looking for a length range. But you guys are right.....though I do still like the song... hah!
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Barry Manilow would be nice.
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Barry Manilow would be nice.
Gotta love Barry? Hmm, not sure that would be my first choice on sounds.
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Re: Cutting 101

Though I don't agree with manually pipping an entire clutch, I do think your video was great for those who can't sit on their hands and wait for the miracle that is Mother Nature to do what she does best on her own.
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awwwwwwwwwwwwww. babies!
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Though I don't agree with manually pipping an entire clutch, I do think your video was great for those who can't sit on their hands and wait for the miracle that is Mother Nature to do what she does best on her own.
Ty.... and again this wasn't meant to condone or to promote cutting of eggs. There is great debate pros and cons on whether to cut or not. As always it is the breeder's personal choice. This was meant to provide a 'safe' way cut eggs rather than the razor wielding I see rampant on the web.

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Yep! And ty Malachite.....I have a huge love for da babies myself!
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Re: Cutting 101

dont know how i managed to miss this post

very informative bree,personally if your into piano's id have went with Jackson Brown imo he's got a better set of vocals going on

some hybrids dont have an egg tooth so theres no choice you really have to give them that helping hand.

next time you should try that gravely voice they use on american horror film voice overs,while you give us a running commentry on your actions.

your also right in saying theres a lot of butchery posted on you tube re cutting eggs.

glad your hatch went well,im away to look at your site now.
cheers shaun
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"Ty.... and again this wasn't meant to condone or to promote cutting of eggs. There is great debate pros and cons on whether to cut or not. As always it is the breeder's personal choice. This was meant to provide a 'safe' way cut eggs rather than the razor wielding I see rampant on the web. "
There really are not pros to cutting, at least not to the babies. Nothing good can come from cutting an egg except to quench the burning inpatience in your gut.
Some of the pictures I've seen of manually "pipped" eggs were disturbing; blood everywhere, severed veins, sickly looking babies. Many of the big breeders, who should know better, are just as guilty.
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