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Old 08-24-05, 12:29 PM   #1
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retic x burm

I know it's very rare for a burm to mate with a retic. But Yesterday my male burm did it with one of my female retics (Midgard 14'5''). If anything comes out of this, what should i expect? He's not even a normal burm, he's an albino. Could it mean albino bateaters? Is there even such thing already?
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Old 08-24-05, 01:21 PM   #2
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Couldn't tell you what you can expect. Although I'd really like to hear how it goes. Good luck with the pairing.

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Old 08-24-05, 01:57 PM   #3
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if you get hybird babies they will be bateaters het for albino im guessing
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without any real albinos in that first clutch???
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there might be albinos in the clutch. Your just gonna have to wait and see. So how did your burm mate with your retic? did you have them in the same encloser? were you trying to mate them?
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Old 08-24-05, 03:00 PM   #6
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It's a big enclosure and sometimes i let them both stay inside. Was not planned.
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Old 08-24-05, 10:15 PM   #7
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there might be albinos in the clutch.
There will not be albinos in the clutch. Assuming for a moment that the genetic mutations are transferable from species to species in this case, the most one could hope for is hetrozygous offspring. No one has been able to prove that genetic traits, such as amelaninism, are inheritable from species to species. Hindering this, is that the cross is so rarely acheived, and any attempts to breed bateaters together have failed. The current theory is that bateaters will not breed together.

The if you are able to hatch a clutch of bateaters, you could test this by breeding the offspring to either an albino burm, or an albino retic. If the bateater is het for albino, then some of the offspring should be albino. To my knowledge, no one has bred a bateater back to a burm, only a retic. NERD has accomplished this and have call the offspring of a bateater X retic, 'jungle retics'.

Like I said before, bateaters are extremely difficult to produce. Just getting eggs from this pairing is note worthy. Very few people have accomplished this successfully. Most of the eggs from these pairings, seem to die off for whatever reason.
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Old 08-25-05, 08:11 AM   #8
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... No one has been able to prove that genetic traits, such as amelaninism, are inheritable from species to species.
what are you talking about. traits are passed on to OFFSPRING, not to another species, lol.

I understood what you said. well, i don't see any reason why a bateater shouldn't breed another bateater. They are not sterile. I think it will eventually happen.
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Old 08-25-05, 09:12 AM   #9
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This is a hybrid cross. The gene causing albinism in burms may not be the same gene that causes albinism in retics. Since both are recessive, you need a contribution from both parents. This may not even be possible for a hybrid. That's whay he's talking about.
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what are you talking about. traits are passed on to OFFSPRING, not to another species, lol.
I'm talking about the fact that it may not be possible to creat an albino bateater or a het bateater. I'm well aware that genetic traits are passed from parent animal to offspring, but that may not be the case when hybirdizing.
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Old 08-25-05, 02:51 PM   #11
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I suppose we'll find out soon enough if a buddy of mine is successful with his "het" bateater
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