lighting question

monty bl python · 08-10-05, 01:04 AM

:firestart I have had my ball for a couple of months and have been using black lights for the night and of course a reptile light for the day. Being told by my uncle when he had got me my corn snake.

My question is// is a black light needed for the night and if so dose it have to be on each aquarium of just near enough to provide the snake with a (night light). :greenflam

Lrptls · 08-10-05, 03:34 AM

get rid of your lights. ball pythons do not like alot of light. get some type of undertank heater (i highly recomend heat tape) you will then need a rheostate or even just a regular light dimmer. you need to buy a temp gun to check the temperatures and make sure they are acurate. even if you were using lights i think every one should use temp guns, stick on thermometers are usually not acurate and eventually stop working correctly.

monty bl python · 08-10-05, 10:40 AM

Dose anyone have other opinions ,not saying your are wrong, but I haven’t herd this before so I just want to confirm it. and if so will heat tape be able to warm the air.

peterm15 · 08-13-05, 12:10 AM

toss the lights.. espically the black light.. 24hr light is not healthy for anything so i opt to turn off ALL my herps lights, if i need night heat i either use a UTH or Ceremic heater...

best thing for a snake is under tank heater.. gives them belly heat.. and with a proper thermosdat are much safer than lights.. as long as your snake isnt in total darkness all day ( in other words has a window that will reflect some light in or even your room lights on) your snake will be fine... and most likely much happier..

if for some reason you decide to give extra light during the day a floresent light is the best choice, less wattage, less danger, and the uv bulbs may prove to be benifical, but are by no means needed

Edmond Y · 08-13-05, 12:19 AM

I used to use a 25 watt bulb to provide a hot spot and then I took it away, I found my snakes become more active and eat better. I belive they don't like 24hours light for them.
Edmond

Jeff_Favelle · 08-13-05, 12:10 PM

Dose anyone have other opinions ,not saying your are wrong, but I haven’t herd this before so I just want to confirm it.

Well, let's think about it: Ball Pythons are NOCTURNAL, SUBTERRANEAN snakes from Western Africa. That doesn't sound like a snake that wants a bright-a$$ bulb in its face all day long, does it?

galad · 08-13-05, 02:15 PM

wow jeff how rude can you get?
Not everyone is a snake expert like yourself.

Its statements like that, that would deter me from buying anything from you.

Youd think someone who is a fulltime breeder would have better people skills.

peace

ws

Jeff_Favelle · 08-13-05, 05:25 PM

Wasn't trying to be rude. Making a simple statement without calling people names or telling them off etc etc is now considered rude?

Its statements like that, that would deter me from buying anything from you.

Bummer.

Man, I re-read my post lke 5 times, saying it out loud like I would say it to the guy's face if we were having a conversation in person, and I fail to see how I was rude to him. I said BP's are nocturnal, hole-loving snakes that don't appreciate a bright-a$$ bulb in their faces all day long. Yeah, that's rude (sarcasm implied).

Watch out for the forum police doods. If you don't give help in the EXACT right way, they'll make you wish you never tried to help in the first place.

Lrptls · 08-13-05, 06:32 PM

i think its cause you said a$$ *shrug* im not sure either jeff

monty bl python · 08-13-05, 07:46 PM

i dint think it was rude and it was being said to me
jeff was just explaining why the dont like lights

ReptiGramma · 08-13-05, 08:07 PM

Well.....I think he was kinda rude too....May as well have said, DUHHHH!!!

I see that he is working on 10,000 posts....Maybe he could use a nap?? LOL!!

I just love all you guys!!!!

Jeff_Favelle · 08-13-05, 08:16 PM

Good stuff Chris. Post pics of your setup if you get a chance. Pictures are worth 10,000 words. No lie!

Also, check out this page by the immortal Mark Mandic. It'll help and is a good reference page to check back on: http://ballpython.ca/care.html

Best of luck!

galad · 08-14-05, 01:04 AM

The proleme is very simple jeff.
When you say things like "Well, let's think about it: Ball Pythons are NOCTURNAL, SUBTERRANEAN snakes from Western Africa."
You come off as a smart a$$, know it all. Who thinks everyone should know as much as you.

And plus having a bulb in the cage cannot be so bad, I'm sure he has a hide or two for his ball any good keeper would.
And also in the wild a full moon can provide quite alot of light, would that not be similar to a small bulb off in the corner of the room?

Watch out for the forum police how childish is that? All I was implying was the fact that someone in your possition should have better people skills.
As reptigramma said Maybe you could use a little sleep?

peace

ws

monster · 08-14-05, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by galad

The proleme is very simple jeff.
When you say things like "Well, let's think about it: Ball Pythons are NOCTURNAL, SUBTERRANEAN snakes from Western Africa."
You come off as a smart a$$, know it all. Who thinks everyone should know as much as you.

And plus having a bulb in the cage cannot be so bad, I'm sure he has a hide or two for his ball any good keeper would.
And also in the wild a full moon can provide quite alot of light, would that not be similar to a small bulb off in the corner of the room?

Watch out for the forum police how childish is that? All I was implying was the fact that someone in your possition should have better people skills.
As reptigramma said Maybe you could use a little sleep?

peace

ws

those are some good points. makes sense too, jeff needs to chill out and take a nap. probably a sheltered life has resulted in poor people skills and snake knowledge ad nauseam. :bugged: the bar is a good place to start.

ReptiGramma · 08-14-05, 11:08 AM

LOL!! Okay, Jeff......Say that you are sorry and eat your words...You are not making any friends here......And it won't hurt....I promise.!!! LOL!! We just might have to all hold hands and sit on the porch like that until we all calm down, and then we can be nice to each other again. TEEE HEEEE!!!

The full moon comment really makes alot of sense....

Does anyone KNOW how a black light might look to a snake? Would it be a calming reaction or a freak-out kind of feeling? Anyone ever read any research?

I'll bet that it looks really cool from outside the cage.

And...Jeff, don't go to the bar...that will just make it worse!!!

Love youall,