size of the tank

[snakeman92]

i was wondering if a jungle carpet pyhton would would be ok in a normale 45 gal tank that is 1 1/2 feet tall 3 feet long and 1 foot wide

[snakeman92]

Bump

[JKUROSKI]

How big is the snake? It really depends...I think it would be fine for the most part.

[snakeman92]

well i havent got it yet bbut i would want to get a baby

[JKUROSKI]

Yeah it would work for any carpet up to about 6 feet.

[JIMI]

yeah i keep a nearly 6 foot jungle in a tank that exact size.

[snakeman92]

really that great now all i have to do is get it ready for a new snake thanks guys

[Dom]

In my opinion,

You should not keep a snake longer than 4 feet in such a small tank.. true a 6 foot snake will live in such conditions but isn't the goal to make it thrive?

The bigger the tank the better. I personally would never ever keep such a big snake in such a small tank. A good rule of thumb should be as such: the tank should be at least 2/3 as long as the size of the snake .. and that's a MINIMUM requirement.

Just my 2 cents,
Dom

[jason h]

i think i would agree with Dom and also add that with jungles that virtical space is more improtant than horizontal space they love to climb, mine rarely ever leaves his branch except to drink and to lay on the hot spot juat after eating other than that you never see him on the ground.

[JKUROSKI]

Dom and Jason:
You don't know much about carpet pythons. Do you own adult carpets? Carpet pythons as well as most large constrictors are ambush preditors. They move for about four reasons; to drink, crap, breed, and thernoregulate. If these factor can be offered in a micro habitat, the python has little or no reason to move. Many many large scale keeper keep carpet pythons in 96 quart rack systems. Vetical space is not needed to maintain carpet pythons, and a shorter wider cage with branches would be better that a skinny short one that is 4 feet tall. Carpets like to travel horizontally, not vertically. They will find the top branch most often and stay there. Now of course this is just my opinion....so take it however you want.

[JIMI]

I've been meaning to build a second custom enclosure for the large female, but I havnt gotten around to it although I do have all the materials. But I agree with JK, I add vertical space for viewing pleasure. Floor space is alot more important, so I do add depth (2 feet) but I dont plan on building it any larger than 42x24x36 high.

[Dom]

Hello JK,

Yes I do Own Carpets .. 1.1 coastals both between the 7-8 feet range, one 10 inch New Gueanea carpet python and a 5-6 feet jungle carpet python. This were simply my oppinions. Attacking us by saying we don't know much about carpets is not the best way of going about in a discussion jk.


My coastals move for a good part of the night .. I disagree completly with the fact that they do nothing but eat, defecate and thermoregulate. ( I do agree though that the Jungle is not as active but still is enough to entitle him to some room for movement)

I honestly don't know that many large boids that DON'T move at night (or day for diurnals) .. My blood .. my rock .. my burms .. my balls ALL move during their peek ours of the day or night. That is why I state that, true, they will be fine in such a small enclosure but IN MY OPPINION it its not optimal for them. I beleive the majority off ppl on the frums would agree that 2/3 of the body length for enclosure size should be a minimum.

Again JK These are simpply my oppinions .. don't take them personally .. we may have different point of views, this does not make me or you any better keepers. We simply see it differently.

Take care JK

[snakeman92]

hey now i ask this question for some info not for u guys to start a fight i will take in all your info thanks

[JKUROSKI]

Dom...I appreciate your oppinion.

Lets try this again...

9 foot coastal

You recommend 2/3 so 6'x?x?

I tend to recommend 1/2 x 1/4 x 1/4 so 5'x2.5'x2.5'
(But they can 'thrive' in much smaller enclosures)

I think our views are different because we are different kinds of keepers. There are hobby keeper that tend to have large cages, few animals, and naturalistic setups. And then there are breeders that use small but efficient enclosures that offer the snake its basic needs and at the same time conserves space. I plan to own a pair of the 12-15 (with subspecies/locales) of Morelia...in the case of scrub pythons (16') I dont not have room for 6 (11' x ? x ?) cages...it's just not feasable. I will provide as much room as possible with the space I have to work with.

[Dom]

Jk,

I do see where your are coming from.. Your are right .. I am more of a hobbyist keeper and prefer larger cages and the more naturalistic settings. As I had said, the basic needs maybe given to them and they will do fine in smaller cages but if u can give them bigger than why not..

Maybe on an other pointer .. I know large breeders tend to have very small cages cause obviously they have tons of cage.. IMO - Its not because these breeders manage to make their animals breed in such settings that it means it is the best settings for them.

As for larger snakes .. personaly - wether a small time keeper or lg breeder, if you can not given a burm a large cage (like Jason does) .. then don't keep one .. again this is only an opinion.. I simply beleive that thes animals should be given optimal settings in captivity. Unfortunetly, I find that often, owning lots of animals means the animals cages size srink.. Wich is really not fair to the animals.

Don't get me wrong .. I have tremendous respect for large breeders like yourself .. to be able to care and breeed so many animmal demonstrate that these animals are living very healthy lives and I would tell u to keep with what your doing .. I just wish that lg breeders would keep animals the same way small time hobbyist did ( I know it will never happpen though). and honestly .. if i ever become a LG time breeder chances are all my cages will be very small - I think that it is very hard to not do so.

Anyway .. Thansk for your input JK .. I appreciate your oppinions