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11-25-03, 01:54 PM
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What kind of ???
What type of bp's do you need to make piebald bp's??? And can someone explain how this happens. They are truly a beautiful specimen.
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11-25-03, 06:03 PM
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Pieds are born that way...........they are a simple recessive gene.
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11-25-03, 06:09 PM
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It's a recessive gene. So you'd need either 2 Heterozygous, or 2 homozygous, or 1 Heterozygous and 1 Homozygous to get Pied babies.
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11-25-03, 06:21 PM
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Ok so bare with me. If I bought a 100% Het. Albino male and bread it with a "normal" female BP and had a clutch and bread those females back with the dad, would I get pieds or albino's. I am slowly starting to catch on but it is soooo confusing.
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11-25-03, 06:30 PM
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Piedbald genes and albino genes ar not the same. If you are breeding with albinos and het for albino...you might get albinos...you get no pieds. If you are breeding with pied stock then you have a chance of getting pieds but not albinos.
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11-25-03, 06:30 PM
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albinos, but you woundnt want to do that...its inbreeding, and the genetics get weaker the more generations you do that
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11-25-03, 06:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Big Mike
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Well kinda but all this had to start somewhere. (With normal ball pythons). I want to know how you get to the point where you can have het piebald. AAAAAAHHHHH!!!! I am soooo confused.
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11-25-03, 06:56 PM
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if you breed a het to a normal, you have a small chance of getting one
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11-25-03, 06:56 PM
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you need a pied to get het for pied, you breed a pied male to a normal female and you get het for pied or you can breed a het pied to a normal and get 50% pos het pied.
Thanks Josh
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11-25-03, 07:01 PM
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100% het to normal breeding will produce 50% possible hets. You will get no homos, just more hets. Bare minimum you have to have 2 hets to get any homos. Otherwise it will just be hets.
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11-25-03, 07:06 PM
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11-25-03, 07:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by elevation24
100% het to normal breeding will produce 50% possible hets. You will get no homos, just more hets. Bare minimum you have to have 2 hets to get any homos. Otherwise it will just be hets.
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Now your bringing homos into the picture. I think im gonna cry here!!! I just dont het it. HAHAHA I crack myself up
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11-25-03, 07:15 PM
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http://www.pkreptiles.com/pdf/articles/piebalds.pdf
Does that help any with where they came from? It is a naturally occurring.
A homo shows it's mutation.
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11-25-03, 07:39 PM
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the pied is a natural ocuring type of ball python, it is not from the result of cross breeding. Bigplaya I'm in calgary to if you want call and I'll explain. email me or pm me
Thanks Josh
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11-25-03, 07:41 PM
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maiden that chance is so small it would not even be concidered, the normal would have to be a het of some type(50%, 66%, and so on)
Thanks Josh
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