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Old 08-28-03, 08:15 PM   #1
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If my leo's do have crypto, how to prepare for new leo's?

If my leo has crypto I will donate him to k-state. But when it is time to get a new one or two or three what do I need to do? throw away everything and buy everything new?
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Old 08-28-03, 08:20 PM   #2
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i think soaking everything in ammonia? well something will get rid of it.. be sure to rinse very well. i wouldnt give up hope w/ the one u think may have crypto cause it may very well just be on a hunger strike. just isolate it and monitor everything.. keep it on paper towel for now, i guess u could throw everything away and buy new stuff if u wanted to be 100% safe... for now wait for a vet visit
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You can use and ammonia or bleach solution in hot water, and scrub everything down. Boil what you can, too, and let it sit for as long as possible before reintroducing any new leos.

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Old 08-29-03, 06:46 AM   #4
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I'm gonna repeat what I said in a previous thread...if you can't afford the vet bills on the animals you currently have, don't get any more animals. Bleach will NOT kill crypto. You need to soak everything in 10% ammonia solution for at least 30 minutes. That's pretty much the only successful method of killing crypto on surfaces.
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Old 08-29-03, 12:00 PM   #5
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I never said I couldn't affored the vet bill THANK You. I just wanted some idea of what kind of cash to bring with me. as a matter of fact I have a appt. with a vet today.
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Old 08-29-03, 01:08 PM   #6
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If you sell or give that leo away if it test positive for crypto you SHOULD tell whoever it goes to that it has crypto. Oh as a side note use ammonia like alicewave said and never ever mix bleach and ammonia together!!!
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Sorry about that...I misinterpreted. It's a message for anyone in general though.
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cant crypto still work even after it's dead?.. i think i heard that from someone... well.. just rinse it out real good w/ tap water or something cause crypto can spread through water
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Crypto is a single celled organism, and so no once it's dead it can't reanimate like a virus would.

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o ok.. well that makes things easier then
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You can still have an immune system reaction to the protein in dead organisms, but not get an active infestation that will continue to grow and spread to other animals, so it's not quite as devastating as live crypto. Boiling water will help to denature the proteins to minimize that risk.

When I worked at a large vet hospital we had a 72 hour protocol to cleanse cages where communicable diseases were suspected. The first day was repeating cleaning with a 10% bleach solution left on for at least a half hour, scrubbed with a hard-bristled brush to mechanically loosen any oocysts that might be clinging to cage walls, and then rinsing thoroughly with boiling water. Repeat as many times as possible during the first day and then rinse especially thoroughly.

The second day was the same procedure, but using a 10% ammonia solution. So it's vital that all the bleach be thoroughly rinsed out the previous day so as not to create toxic fumes should bleach and ammonia mix.

The third day is just rinsing like crazy with boiling water, over and over and over again.

This is effective against bacteria, viral, or parasitic diseases on any hard, non-porous surface. Wood, unglazed clay, or other porous materials should be thrown out as it's nearly impossible to disinfect all the nooks and crannies. Wooden cage materials that have been thoroughly sealed with polyurethane can be disinfected, but untreated, painted or varnished wood should be discarded.
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