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07-03-03, 01:49 PM
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Join Date: Mar-2003
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Loki Update
I'm sorry to inform everyone i have came to a decision that upsets me very much. After speaking to several people in the medical field with reptiles. My boyfriend and myself have came to the conclusion we are going to put loki to sleep. She is our first leo and the first reptile, she will always be my favorite and my insperation in keeping reptiles she will always have a place in my heart.
we came to this conclusion because of all the negative effects that can become of her, even if she does start to recover. My worst fears are kidney faliure or problems with her bones. Which will cause her loss later on. She is a strong fighter and i belive she's doing her best but she doesn't deserve to suffer like this.
So in short tonight is my last night with my baby loki. I ask for everyone to say a little prayer for her tonight. I know she will be in a better place but she will be greatly missed. I know this may not be the decision or the outcome i have wanted but it is the right decision for her.
Thanks for listening
Jamie
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1.2 Bearded dragons (Login, Raven, & Jean Grey) 1.1.1 Corn snakes(Havoc,Sable, & Kink0 1.5 Leo's (Psyloke (Lucky-male) Speedball, Domino, Rouge, Siren, Elektra) 1.0 Veiled Chams (Neo), 0.1 Rose Hair T. (Night Crawler) 0.0.3 Crested Geckos (Shiva, Storm, Beast) 0.2 Kenyan Sand Boas (Tigra & Cloak)
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07-03-03, 01:56 PM
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 I'm sorry to hear that but it sounds like the right decision...I know he will be sorely missed, best of luck with the next herp you get.
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07-03-03, 02:09 PM
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Join Date: Mar-2003
Location: St. Louis, MO
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oh clonel i have more leos and tons more coming so it's not that i want another herp to take her place. It's that she was my very first reptile and it's sad to see her this way and knowing i'm the one that has to put her out of her misery. plus i have been struggling with her on a daily basis (hand feedings, meds, and forcefeeding, cleaning her cage daily, ect.) I don't mind one bit about doing all that my concern is how her health will be. Which the outlook is very bad.
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1.2 Bearded dragons (Login, Raven, & Jean Grey) 1.1.1 Corn snakes(Havoc,Sable, & Kink0 1.5 Leo's (Psyloke (Lucky-male) Speedball, Domino, Rouge, Siren, Elektra) 1.0 Veiled Chams (Neo), 0.1 Rose Hair T. (Night Crawler) 0.0.3 Crested Geckos (Shiva, Storm, Beast) 0.2 Kenyan Sand Boas (Tigra & Cloak)
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07-03-03, 02:44 PM
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Join Date: Sep-2002
Location: New Mexico
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Jaime I'm so sorry. I understand your point of view though, and agree with you. Loki has put up a good strong fight, but the pain she must be going through must be excruciating. I will keep both of you in my prayers. I'm so sorry. =(
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07-03-03, 04:33 PM
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Location: Calgary, AB
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Jamie, we all feel for you. Losing your first reptile has got to be hard, but you hang in there.
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07-03-03, 05:44 PM
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Join Date: Aug-2002
Location: eastern Ontario (Alexandria)
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Oh Jamie, I feel so sad for you. But I know you are doing what you think is best for loki and you are doing your best by her. I'm sure she will be much happier once the pain is gone and although you will miss her dearly, I'm sure you will feel better knowing she is not suffering anymore. Loki is a fighter but sometime you can fight as hard as you can and never get ahead. You are all in our prayers. Take care and light heart.
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07-03-03, 08:06 PM
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Dammit....
When we were taking her out of her cage and saying our goodbyes James (my boyfriend) begged me to give her one more month. We talked about it for 2 hours the pros and cons. I belive deep down in my heart that she isn't going to make it and that we are only making her suffer. Him, on the other hand hates seeing me so upset and all the time and effort i have been giving her, all for nothing. He belives she will make it. So he pleaded with me to give her one more month to turn around. I don't know what to do this is heart breaking. i hate the thought of losing her but i also hate the thought of letting her suffer. If anyone at all has ANY advice to give please don't hold back let me know what i should do cause i don't know anymore.
His main plea is "we cant give up on her after we've(loki and everything me and him have done) came this far."
My main plea is " I don't want her to have to suffer any longer than she has to"(and have her die in 6 months of kidney faliure)
Why does this have to be so damn hard!!!!! I feel so guilty too cause if she does make it i will feel so guilty that i thought about putting her to sleep. on the other hand if she dies in 6 month to a year i will feel horrible that i didn't put her to sleep sooner.
Thanks
Jamie
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1.2 Bearded dragons (Login, Raven, & Jean Grey) 1.1.1 Corn snakes(Havoc,Sable, & Kink0 1.5 Leo's (Psyloke (Lucky-male) Speedball, Domino, Rouge, Siren, Elektra) 1.0 Veiled Chams (Neo), 0.1 Rose Hair T. (Night Crawler) 0.0.3 Crested Geckos (Shiva, Storm, Beast) 0.2 Kenyan Sand Boas (Tigra & Cloak)
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07-04-03, 10:02 PM
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Join Date: Sep-2002
Location: New Mexico
Age: 45
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Jaime, I wouldn't want to be in your shoes. Give Loki a chance, she has been doing so well since you started the parazap treatments. It's so hard because we never know what the gecko wants. Loki has fought hard, and I'm sure if she didn't want to make it she would have given up a long time ago.
I once had a rescued leo that I got very attached to. He was 5 months old, and had severe MBD (if you back through the posts you can find a picture of him). Anyways, that gecko was so sick when I got it, I feared it wouldn't make the trip home. Well, he did, and he fought for 5 months. Get began eating on his own and gaining weight. I believed he would live a full-term life. However, on Thanksgiving day (2002), I went to visit my boyfriend. I said goodbye to Baby Leo because I knew I wouldn't be coming back that night. The next day I discovered him dead in his tank, and according to my mom's beliefs, Baby Leo waited to die when I wasn't around... had I been there when he was trying to die I would have taken him to the vet, and put him through all this stress. I'm happy he died peacfully, but so heartbroken that he's no longer around. I try not to get attached to my rescues, but I totally let myself go on this one. (sniffles)
Give Loki a chance, she'll let you know if she doesn't want to go on. Good Luck with her, and please keep me updated.
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07-04-03, 10:06 PM
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Thank you for that encourgement samba i knew you would say the right thing.
I just hate to see her suffer and i feel very selfish, but i feel even worse thinking about putting her to sleep. I'll keep trying my hardest and not give up on her, until she feels it's her time to go.
Thanks for everything samba
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1.2 Bearded dragons (Login, Raven, & Jean Grey) 1.1.1 Corn snakes(Havoc,Sable, & Kink0 1.5 Leo's (Psyloke (Lucky-male) Speedball, Domino, Rouge, Siren, Elektra) 1.0 Veiled Chams (Neo), 0.1 Rose Hair T. (Night Crawler) 0.0.3 Crested Geckos (Shiva, Storm, Beast) 0.2 Kenyan Sand Boas (Tigra & Cloak)
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07-04-03, 10:13 PM
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Join Date: Aug-2002
Location: eastern Ontario (Alexandria)
Age: 50
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Oh Jamie, that is a really tough situation. I wish I had an answer for you but all I can say is to reach into your heart and you will find the answer. Only you can tell how she is doing and how far she has come or not. It may be the toughest decision you make but you have to decide what is right for her and you. I wish I could be more help but in situations like these you never know what the turn out will be.  You and Loki are in our prayers. Whatever you decide, know that we are all hear for you.
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Herps are like pringles, you can't stop at just one.
'believe me I know!!'
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