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10-26-14, 10:23 AM
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Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
Boy Who Shot Albino Deer With Crossbow Receives Death Threats, Family Says so whats everyones opinion on this? I think its preposterous that this kid is getting threatened because he shot this buck. Its just a deer like any other and people putting it on a pedestal because its "different" and "prettier" is aggravating. This creature is no better than any other deer. Funny thing is a guarantee most of these people buy their meat from a supermarket which is far far worse. So whats everyones thoughts on this?
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10-26-14, 11:07 AM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
I saw this story and while I can understand people not wanting to see such a rare animal killed, the boy did not break any laws. While I would never kill it now, when I was 14 and if I saw that buck in the same situation, I'd have shot it in a second. Death threats to a kid for any reason is a cowards way of making themselves feel better. Leave the kid alone and if anything, work towards changing the laws to make it illegal to shoot an albino deer like many/most other states have already done. Just my opinion.
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10-26-14, 11:10 AM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
I agree with you. Nobody should be threatening the kid. Sounds like it was a clean kill. Pretty impressive actually for a kid with a crossbow. I wonder if they'll eat the meat though.
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10-26-14, 11:45 AM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
The more I think about this, the more I disagree with the idea of killing this animal. It's not that I think albino animals are "special" and shouldn't be killed. I just find it impressive that such an animal has managed to survive to maturity. That deer would have been the first animal to be targeted by predators, and yet it was able to avoid all of them long enough to reach adulthood. And then somebody comes along and kills it with a crossbow. It's just sad. The deer already had so much stacked against it but it managed to defy the odds until human technology came along.
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10-26-14, 12:01 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
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The more I think about this, the more I disagree with the idea of killing this animal. It's not that I think albino animals are "special" and shouldn't be killed. I just find it impressive that such an animal has managed to survive to maturity. That deer would have been the first animal to be targeted by predators, and yet it was able to avoid all of them long enough to reach adulthood. And then somebody comes along and kills it with a crossbow. It's just sad. The deer already had so much stacked against it but it managed to defy the odds until human technology came along.
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You make a very good point, I'm mostly irritated that these people just decide to threaten the boys life rather than, gee I don't know maybe work to make it illegal for that to happen.
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10-26-14, 12:10 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
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You make a very good point, I'm mostly irritated that these people just decide to threaten the boys life rather than, gee I don't know maybe work to make it illegal for that to happen.
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Death threats suck and all... but are they worse than actually killing another living creature?
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10-26-14, 12:32 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
it's terrible the kids getting threats over this.....
that said,if it was me and my young son out hunting,i would have told him not to take the shot,because it was such a unique animal...
but that's just my personal feelings on killing an albino of any species,i think they are beautiful and unique and should not be killed
i have no ill will towards people who shoot them though...
each to their own
cheers shaun
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10-26-14, 12:37 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
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I agree with you. Nobody should be threatening the kid. Sounds like it was a clean kill. Pretty impressive actually for a kid with a crossbow. I wonder if they'll eat the meat though.
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that's a great point mate...
an animal should only be killed if it's going to good use...
where the meat gets eaten,and better still the hide and antlers are going to be used
killing for the sake of killing is wrong imo
cheers shaun
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10-26-14, 12:53 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
Albinism is rare in the wild because it puts the animal at a disadvantage. There's no reason to view the animal as "special" or somehow above the food chain.
I also always see a lot of comments by non-hunters about how the animal should be eaten. I'm 37 years old. I've hunted literally since I was old enough to follow my dad. And, I've been surrounded by other hunters most of my life. The animals are ALWAYS eaten. I'm not saying there has never been a case where it didn't happen. But those are extreme cases by "hunters" that none of us would claim. Hunters don't go out there killing things and not using them.
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10-26-14, 12:56 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
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Death threats suck and all... but are they worse than actually killing another living creature?
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Are you asking if a death threat to a young boy is worse than him legally harvesting a deer and taking part in nature? Is that really what you're asking?
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10-26-14, 01:44 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
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Are you asking if a death threat to a young boy is worse than him legally harvesting a deer and taking part in nature? Is that really what you're asking?
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First of all, hunting with a crossbow is not, "taking part in nature." If the boy had run down the deer, like early humans in Africa, then maybe I could see that point.
Secondly, the point I was making is that killing is killing. I don't think death threats are acceptable, but I don't think the killing of animals should be taken lightly either. There is a certain hypocrisy with people justifying the killing of an animal while treating the hollow threats across the internet as abominable.
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10-26-14, 02:50 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
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First of all, hunting with a crossbow is not, "taking part in nature." If the boy had run down the deer, like early humans in Africa, then maybe I could see that point.
Secondly, the point I was making is that killing is killing. I don't think death threats are acceptable, but I don't think the killing of animals should be taken lightly either. There is a certain hypocrisy with people justifying the killing of an animal while treating the hollow threats across the internet as abominable.
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Really? So hunters should run down deer like in early Africa? Hmm. I have a sneaking suspicion that if I were to run down a deer and club it to death I'd get a whole lot more grief than I would ever get for using a crossbow.
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10-26-14, 03:27 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
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Death threats suck and all... but are they worse than actually killing another living creature?
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Are you a strict vegan?
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10-26-14, 03:42 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
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Really? So hunters should run down deer like in early Africa? Hmm. I have a sneaking suspicion that if I were to run down a deer and club it to death I'd get a whole lot more grief than I would ever get for using a crossbow.
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That's irrelevant. My point was that using a crossbow isn't "taking part in nature." It's just killing. I wasn't commenting on whether it was amoral or immoral.
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Are you a strict vegan?
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No, but I have I wrestled with it. And I obviously feed my snakes killed animals. I'm not condemning the killing or eating of other animals. I'm just saying that objectively, why are we okay with killing other life forms, yet appalled by hollow internet threats?
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10-26-14, 04:03 PM
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Re: Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats
I think that this thread has drifted a bit from killing a rare albino deer (which happens to be legal to do in the state this young man live in) to hunting/killing in general. I personally do not hunt. That said, I have zero problem with people hunting deer as they have become so over populated that they would soon have to be culled just to maintain a healthy herd. There are so many deer here in Georgia that the annual limit is 12 does and 2 bucks per hunter and we're still over populated. There are 5 or 6 deer in my front yard every evening, eating my landscape plants. It is not unusual to see 3 or 4 deer in the middle of my neighbors lawn at noon; they don't even run from us. When I drove from Atlanta to Savannah last week and route 16, (the highway between Macon and Savannah about 150 miles long), the dead deer along that road were like mile markers and still you have to keep one eye open for deer at all times of the day. Hunters, hunt to you hearts content, just hunt legally, make clean kills, and use what you kill.
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