Mangrove Pit Viper

[SSSSnakes]

Just wanted to share a few pictures of my new Mangrove Pit Viper'

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/017-17.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/017-17.jpg.html)

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/015-24.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/015-24.jpg.html)

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/011-34.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/011-34.jpg.html)

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/010-29.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/010-29.jpg.html)

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr115/JerryTheSnakeman/008-32.jpg (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/JerryTheSnakeman/media/008-32.jpg.html)

[MDT]

dude...pic #2 looks like he wants a piece of you....
very nice pics.

[NextMorph]

dude...pic #2 looks like he wants a piece of you....
very nice pics.

Just number 2 does? Hahahaha...

Very nice! Congrats.

[Roadtrash]

Nice looking animal you have there.

[Dave Kelley]

Very nice addition! You've got a set on ya...it takes a strong person to take on hots. Enjoy!

[possum]

I love his dark color & attitude, reminds me of a Southern Pacific (Crotalus viridis) I used to 'room' with, lol...

[Reptile_Reptile]

very interested in you haha

[jarich]

Cute little guy. I take it he isnt going to be a problem feeder ;)

[SSSSnakes]

Cute little guy. I take it he isnt going to be a problem feeder ;)
Time will tell. I have a lot of experience dealing with problem feeder in babies.

[Concept9]

I get nervous just looking at viper pics. :shocked:

[SSSSnakes]

Cute little guy. I take it he isnt going to be a problem feeder ;)
He ate a pinkie without giving me any trouble. He stuck it and I laid it on his branch and he ate it.

[jarich]

He ate a pinkie without giving me any trouble. He stuck it and I laid it on his branch and he ate it.

Ya with that pose it seems like he would be more than happy to take a pinky, your hand, the dog, etc :D

[possum]

Ya with that pose it seems like he would be more than happy to take a pinky, your hand, the dog, etc :D
So you'd rather have a snake that refuses food? (that's why they make BP's, LOL!)

[smy_749]

Its always hard to get an idea of size without anything in the pic for reference. When you said pinky I had to scroll back up and see if it was the same snake then I noticed the size of the wood chips. Every time someone posts a viper I want to get into hots ...nice snake.

[jarich]

So you'd rather have a snake that refuses food? (that's why they make BP's, LOL!)

Apparently my dry sense of humour didnt come through there. I cant seem to find the smiley for "Im just being a smart ***".

[possum]

Apparently my dry sense of humour didnt come through there. I cant seem to find the smiley for "Im just being a smart ***".
Yes it did thanks, I was just teasing too.

[Will0W783]

Nice-looking little Mangrove viper! However, that bedding is bad news for that species. Mangrove vipers live in trees near the waters of mangrove swamps. They need high humidity and lots of perches.

Aspen simply will not work...it will mold, or the snake will shed horribly...probably both. You would do well to switch to cypress mulch or jungle floor mix bedding. You should provide plenty of perches, lots of fake vines and plants to hold water, and mist several times a day.

Here are some pictures of the setup I have for my baby C. purpureomaculatus:
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/Will0W783/Vipers/20121114_211421.jpg (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/Will0W783/media/Vipers/20121114_211421.jpg.html)

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/Will0W783/Vipers/20121114_211424.jpg (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/Will0W783/media/Vipers/20121114_211424.jpg.html)

I hope this helps; If you have any more questions, feel free to message me. Good luck with the little one. Be careful- their bites can be lethal, but usually do not kill. However, I've heard that they are one of the more painful bites a keeper can endure.

[smy_749]

How toxic is the venom of that species Kimberly?

[Will0W783]

It really depends on how you personally react to it. They're more potent than a copperhead but less so than a rattler. Most bites cause swelling, blistering, extreme pain and some clotting problems. They have caused fatalities in some cases, but death is not common.

[SSSSnakes]

How toxic is the venom of that species Kimberly?

Mangrove Pit Viper is LD50 = 0.9 compared to the Monocled Cobra which is LD50 = 0.4

[SSSSnakes]

Nice-looking little Mangrove viper! However, that bedding is bad news for that species. Mangrove vipers live in trees near the waters of mangrove swamps. They need high humidity and lots of perches.

Aspen simply will not work...it will mold, or the snake will shed horribly...probably both. You would do well to switch to cypress mulch or jungle floor mix bedding. You should provide plenty of perches, lots of fake vines and plants to hold water, and mist several times a day.

Here are some pictures of the setup I have for my baby C. purpureomaculatus:
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/Will0W783/Vipers/20121114_211421.jpg (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/Will0W783/media/Vipers/20121114_211421.jpg.html)

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/Will0W783/Vipers/20121114_211424.jpg (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/Will0W783/media/Vipers/20121114_211424.jpg.html)

I hope this helps; If you have any more questions, feel free to message me. Good luck with the little one. Be careful- their bites can be lethal, but usually do not kill. However, I've heard that they are one of the more painful bites a keeper can endure.
Thanks for the advice, but I have been keeping high humidity tree snakes on aspen for 30 years. I keep my snakes in a snake room that has high humidity and high temps. The aspen has never molded on me and I never have to mist any of the snakes. In fact, I breed ATB's which do great in this set up. This works for me and has for years so I'll stick to it, but other may want to do it differently.

[Will0W783]

OK, well do what you feel works for you I guess. I've just never had luck keeping higher humidity snakes on aspen, and find that tree vipers act more relaxed and eat more readily when kept in naturalistic enclosures. Just my observations, but you know what works for you.

[smy_749]

ssnakess are you Jerry from the website in your signature? If so, sweet beard.

[SSSSnakes]

ssnakess are you Jerry from the website in your signature? If so, sweet beard.
Yes I am. Thanks you.

[Louis Jacobsz]

Interestingly the LD50 value does not mean much when it comes to the effect of the venom on humans. It is usually determined by using rats/mice so the value is in essence more applicable for those species. If the LD50's were calculated by using other animals or even humans :crazy: as test subjects the values would be of more use to us.

But that said it does give an indication of the potency of the venom. What it does not indicate/compensate for is the amount of venom injected by an individual snake that would make a massive difference in the outcome of a bite.

All said, I've seen two mangrove viper bites here in S.A (note we have no anti-venom readily available for exotic species) and both caused heavy swelling, extreme pain, little bleeding from the bite site and sore kidneys. In both cases the victims fully recovered without any lasting effects.

[SSSSnakes]

Interestingly the LD50 value does not mean much when it comes to the effect of the venom on humans. It is usually determined by using rats/mice so the value is in essence more applicable for those species. If the LD50's were calculated by using other animals or even humans :crazy: as test subjects the values would be of more use to us.

But that said it does give an indication of the potency of the venom. What it does not indicate/compensate for is the amount of venom injected by an individual snake that would make a massive difference in the outcome of a bite.

All said, I've seen two mangrove viper bites here in S.A (note we have no anti-venom readily available for exotic species) and both caused heavy swelling, extreme pain, little bleeding from the bite site and sore kidneys. In both cases the victims fully recovered without any lasting effects.
Excellent post. Very true, LD50 gives us an idea of how potent the venom is. It does not however tell us what effects it will have if bitten and the amount of venom that is injected in each bite. Each person reacts differently to venom and the amounts injected will be different in each case.

[TheTaipan]

nice pictures dude. where did u take them

[sweatshirt]

Nice snake (:

[marvelfreak]

nice pictures dude. where did u take them
Those are all her snakes.

BTW sweet pictures Kimberly.

[SSSSnakes]

Those are all her snakes.

BTW sweet pictures Kimberly.

Hey Chuck. Only the last pictures are Kimberly's, The original pictures that started this thread are mine.

[marvelfreak]

Hey Chuck. Only the last pictures are Kimberly's, The original pictures that started this thread are mine.
Oops sorry Jerry my bad i was think of a different thread.