Will anything bad happen?

[Squirtle]

I want to put my tiger retic inside my albino burms enclosure, just so I can see how they'd interact. My burm is about 9 feet long, and is turning 3 years old in December. My retic just turned a year old in March, and he's about 6 feet long. They're both males, and my burm is at least 4 times the girth of my retic. They've never been together ever in their whole lives, and I've also owned them since they were both hatchlings, so not diseases will be taken from one snake and put on the other.

[Mark Taylor]

:hmm: NO.

Why would you want to do that?

[Mark Taylor]

Sorry I read it so fast I missed the part about interacting.

The snake that is in the enclosure already will defend it at any cost. more stress, possible one will get eaten the one that does scurry away will not be able or more unlikely to go where it needs hot/ cold area etc etc it's a bad idea.

[SnakeyJay]

I've no experience with the giants so I can't comment on how they'd react differently but it just doesn't seem like a good idea.. If its advised not to house 2 males together of each species why would you want to see what happens mate?

Are you willing to get in the middle and seperate the two of them if they start going at it and end up constricting each other? Just a thought.

[Lankyrob]

Why???????

[Valvaren]

Yeah I don't think I quite understand why you would have even thought of that idea

[rocknhorse76]

Terrible idea!

[TheSuppishOne]

Are you willing to get in the middle and seperate the two of them if they start going at it and end up constricting each other?

^^ This. All about this.

[bcr229]

What the heck do you expect them to do when they "interact" - grab a beer out of the fridge and plop down in front of the tv together to watch baseball, or what? If you're lucky they'll ignore each other, if you're not you'll have two badly injured snakes plus a trip to the emergency room after getting bitten trying to separate them.

[Danimal]

There you guys go again, assuming. Interact is a general term. Maybe he wants some reptilian mma to post on youtube.

Squirtle, by interact, did you mean wrestle or tussle as in an aggressive action? :)

[Ivanator]

Snakes should never be put in the same enclosure unless its a male and female and you're trying to breed them. They do not like being around other snakes, or anything in general, and you will end up stressing them out and eventually having 2 very sick or dead snakes.

[shaunyboy]

Snakes should never be put in the same enclosure unless its a male and female and you're trying to breed them. They do not like being around other snakes, or anything in general, and you will end up stressing them out and eventually having 2 very sick or dead snakes.

i keep Carpet Pythons,same sized females and same sized pairs,in the same enclosure with no issues mate (never 2 males though)

to the op
2 males imo will combat,resulting in injured or dead snakes

cheers shaun

[Terranaut]

Your kidding right. 2 males and different species?
Are you hoping to get rid of one?

[StudentoReptile]

I personally don't see a benefit to doing this, unless you're trying to breed them. Any other reason is just cutting corners, IMHO.

[KORBIN5895]

You know I'm reading a lot of comments telling him gloom and doom but most of the people speaking have not got any experience.

Dollars to donuts says they will ignore each other. It isn't breeding season,he doesn't have a female and there isn't any food present. Critical thinking will make you all look a lot more intelligent. Keeping your mouths closed will make you look like geniuses!

Now I read this and facepalmed. Bad idea. Why? Because you are putting them both in a very small and escape proof space. Try putting them both in the same open room. You should be able to see how they interact just fine. It gives them space to avoid each other if necessary. It also give you room to maneuver if you need to intervene.

Personally I wouldn't recommend you do it but that's based on your experience.

[millertime89]

"breeding season" is a misnomer, snakes will breed year round in the right environment. That said they'll most likely behave like normal but there is always a danger when cohabitating two snakes that generally lead a solitary lifestyle. The Burm is most definitely breeding age and the retic is approaching sexual maturity if not already there. The lack of a sexually mature female probably means that they won't combat, and at the very least you shouldn't feed them both in that enclosure. But you know what they say about playing with fire.

[Squirtle]

lol

All I wanted to see is how they'd react to each other. It's not like I'm housing them together all the time, and I've never had them together at all and was just curious as to what they will do. The retic is literally way smaller than my burm, and I didn't think he'd even notice him.

[Squirtle]

What the heck do you expect them to do when they "interact" - grab a beer out of the fridge and plop down in front of the tv together to watch baseball, or what? If you're lucky they'll ignore each other, if you're not you'll have two badly injured snakes plus a trip to the emergency room after getting bitten trying to separate them.

How do you even know this is true if you just got into snakes? Probably just basing your thoughts from what other people are writing, right? I've owned snakes years before you have, I'm pretty sure I know what will happen if the two got into a fight, don't need to hear it from a newbie.

[KORBIN5895]

How do you even know this is true if you just got into snakes? Probably just basing your thoughts from what other people are writing, right? I've owned snakes years before you have, I'm pretty sure I know what will happen if the two got into a fight, don't need to hear it from a newbie.

Lol! Serious? I give you the benefit of the doubt and you decide to bash someone else? You're the fool looking to throw two snake in the same enclosure "to see how they interact". Let's say something bad happens and you have to reach in. Then what?

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[rocknhorse76]

How do you even know this is true if you just got into snakes? Probably just basing your thoughts from what other people are writing, right? I've owned snakes years before you have, I'm pretty sure I know what will happen if the two got into a fight, don't need to hear it from a newbie.


So I suppose you'll assume that I'm a newbie as well, since I just joined this site? I've been keeping snakes and various other reptiles for about 20 years now, but only began joining forums over the past couple years. Never assume anything, my friend.

[mrkjf]

I want to put my tiger retic inside my albino burms enclosure, just so I can see how they'd interact. My burm is about 9 feet long, and is turning 3 years old in December. My retic just turned a year old in March, and he's about 6 feet long. They're both males, and my burm is at least 4 times the girth of my retic. They've never been together ever in their whole lives, and I've also owned them since they were both hatchlings, so not diseases will be taken from one snake and put on the other.

Im still a novice and have a Bermese(a novice about seven months now)but my advice if its worth anything is i wouldnt dream about putting the two together.:hmm:

[Terranaut]

If you jusy wanted them to interact why put them in one enclosure? Wouldn't you just have them "out" together? Your original question sounds like you plan to cohabitate so of course people are going to jump on you. No need to call anyone out over their response to a silly question. You shot someone down as an inexperienced keeper but it was you asking the newbie question. What kind of answers did you expect? The second I read the question I thought you had better break out your fire suit because the flaming was going to be legendary.
Sorry if you didn't lile the replies but it was a silly question :(

[Pirarucu]

You know I'm reading a lot of comments telling him gloom and doom but most of the people speaking have not got any experience.

Dollars to donuts says they will ignore each other. It isn't breeding season,he doesn't have a female and there isn't any food present. Critical thinking will make you all look a lot more intelligent. Keeping your mouths closed will make you look like geniuses!

Now I read this and facepalmed. Bad idea. Why? Because you are putting them both in a very small and escape proof space. Try putting them both in the same open room. You should be able to see how they interact just fine. It gives them space to avoid each other if necessary. It also give you room to maneuver if you need to intervene.

Personally I wouldn't recommend you do it but that's based on your experience.This. Housing snakes together is fine, but if and only if you are smart about it, which means similarly sized snakes in a very large enclosure, meaning room size. I would not keep two males together either, as if they think it's breeding season, they will go at it, no matter how much you explain to them that it's not the breeding season..

[smy_749]

This. Housing snakes together is fine, but if and only if you are smart about it, which means similarly sized snakes in a very large enclosure, meaning room size. I would not keep two males together either, as if they think it's breeding season, they will go at it, no matter how much you explain to them that it's not the breeding season..

But housing 2 snakes, similarly sized, in 2 enclosures, half a room sized each, would be better and eliminate any risks, no matter how unlikely.

To squirtle, its not advised for anyone to come here and ask a question, and then talk about the one providing an answer and call him a newbie. Who cares if you've been keeping snakes for 100 years, that doesn't make it right.

I went overseas and told an old man, you shouldn't smoke, its not good for you. You know what he told me? I've been smoking for 60 years, and my father smoked for his whole life, how are you going to tell me its not good for me!

Be more respectful, especially when YOU asked them for an answer.

[bcr229]

How do you even know this is true if you just got into snakes? Probably just basing your thoughts from what other people are writing, right? I've owned snakes years before you have, I'm pretty sure I know what will happen if the two got into a fight, don't need to hear it from a newbie.
Then in my most serious, non-snarky, and non-sarcastic voice I'm going to ask an honest question: what do you honestly expect to gain from this experiment?

[Little Wise Owl]

It's simple... Don't do it. Chances are they won't react at all but there is the small chance that they could and then you have a problem on your hands.

If you still want them to "meet" or whatever, do so in an open environment. Not in an enclosed space i.e. an enclosure...

[Will0W783]

AS others have said: Do NOT do it. Cohabitating two snakes for ANY purpose other than breeding, is stressful to the snakes and potentially dangerous. There is absolutely no good reason for you to put them together when you have separate cages for them now. This is, to be perfectly blunt, an asinine thing to consider, and your comments and retorts to members here who are simply answering the question YOU asked indicates that you are immature and not as experienced in snake-keeping as you seem to think you are.

You didn't get the answer you wanted to get; boo-hoo. Either listen to good advice and put your snakes' health and well-being before your own curiosity and stubbornness, or stick them together and take a huge risk. You're going to do what you want anyway; why even ask a forum?

[lady_bug87]

I don't think he wants to cohabitate them.. from what I understand he wants to put them together so see what they will do, like temporarily I think?


Still a stupid idea... like incredibly stupid and completely useless just like this thread :)

[Squirtle]

If you jusy wanted them to interact why put them in one enclosure? Wouldn't you just have them "out" together? Your original question sounds like you plan to cohabitate so of course people are going to jump on you. No need to call anyone out over their response to a silly question. You shot someone down as an inexperienced keeper but it was you asking the newbie question. What kind of answers did you expect? The second I read the question I thought you had better break out your fire suit because the flaming was going to be legendary.
Sorry if you didn't lile the replies but it was a silly question :(

I just wanted them to be out together as safely as possible, didn't mean to say I'd put them both in a small enclosure. Sorry about that.

[Squirtle]

I don't think he wants to cohabitate them.. from what I understand he wants to put them together so see what they will do, like temporarily I think?


Still a stupid idea... like incredibly stupid and completely useless just like this thread :)

Exactly. People are so dumb... It's not like I wanted to house them together, which I know for a fact is completely wrong. I just felt I had to ask you guys just to double check.

[Squirtle]

AS others have said: Do NOT do it. Cohabitating two snakes for ANY purpose other than breeding, is stressful to the snakes and potentially dangerous. There is absolutely no good reason for you to put them together when you have separate cages for them now. This is, to be perfectly blunt, an asinine thing to consider, and your comments and retorts to members here who are simply answering the question YOU asked indicates that you are immature and not as experienced in snake-keeping as you seem to think you are.

You didn't get the answer you wanted to get; boo-hoo. Either listen to good advice and put your snakes' health and well-being before your own curiosity and stubbornness, or stick them together and take a huge risk. You're going to do what you want anyway; why even ask a forum?
I don't care if I responded in an immature way, nor do I care for any person on this forum except for Kstar.

[Squirtle]

So I suppose you'll assume that I'm a newbie as well, since I just joined this site? I've been keeping snakes and various other reptiles for about 20 years now, but only began joining forums over the past couple years. Never assume anything, my friend.

Can you read? I called the other person a newbie based on the amount of time they've owned snakes, not how long they've been on the forum lol...

Swear like half of the people on this forum must have some problems with comprehending stuff.

[poison123]

nor do I care for any person on this forum except for Kstar.

ohhh Geez thanks. I thought we were best friends.

[Squirtle]

ohhh Geez thanks. I thought we were best friends.

All of you could die in a genocide and I wouldn't care one bit. I'd just laugh about it and move on to a higher quality forum, which I've been wanting to do for some time now.

[smy_749]

so gtfo of this forum then you loser.

[poison123]

All of you could die in a genocide and I wouldn't care one bit. I'd just laugh about it and move on to a higher quality forum, which I've been wanting to do for some time now.

HAHA! Nobody is telling you to stay. Feel free to leave.

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[Terranaut]

All of you could die in a genocide and I wouldn't care one bit. I'd just laugh about it and move on to a higher quality forum, which I've been wanting to do for some time now.

So why post here? Seriously if you hate the people and the info why stick around? Sounds to me like your getting your upset because you got the answer you knew was coming. Nobody forced stupidity on you it just seemed to come naturally :) The question you posted was a very newbie question and the newbies are flaming you over it....sucks huh. Enjoy!!!

[KORBIN5895]

All of you could die in a genocide and I wouldn't care one bit. I'd just laugh about it and move on to a higher quality forum, which I've been wanting to do for some time now.

Run along now little one. We have enough stupid people that we won't notice your lack of knowledge. Also good luck finding a forum that will put up with your nonsense.

Oh! Never mind! I hear the ban hammer coming!

[Terranaut]

Run along now little one. We have enough stupid people that we won't notice your lack of knowledge. Also good luck finding a forum that will put up with your nonsense.

Oh! Never mind! I hear the ban hammer coming!

Here we go!!!!
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[Sherman]

Obvious troll is obvious- but I'll assume the OP is lurking as a guest somewhere reading anyway...

OP: If you've kept snakes so long, so much longer than some of us- than you would know snakes are solitary and don't need "friends". Males typically of many species fight, some cross species and hybridize - burm x retic has been made, it does exist. If you've had snakes so long, you would know how the interaction would go and wouldn't have to ask this question. Clearly either your a massive novice, or a huge troll. Probably both. You have no business owning giants.

[Terranaut]

Wow nothing like getting banned in your own thread.
This was strange. Almost like they wanted to get banned??

[lady_bug87]

I'm pretty sure it was intentional. The forum has been slow. People get bored

[Terranaut]

Slow and bored sure. Slow and banned? I don't get that at all.

[Mark Taylor]

Can't excuse some of the comments made no excuse get it or not.

[Terranaut]

I know but what I didn't get was #1 why ask such a silly question and #2 why backlash so hard about answers that were obviously coming?
This was like a forum suicide = very strange .

[blindfireak40]

Some people these days have a really huge passive-aggressive streak. I've seen similar behavior in friends of mine, believe it or not. He wanted to be gone, and this way he can tell people he was run out of town on a rail... the fact that any logical human being could just read this thread and see the truth doesn't matter to these people. Nothing is EVER their fault. :rolleyes:

[Terranaut]

Sounds like a highschool breakup ;)

[KORBIN5895]

Nah. It wasn't intentional. He was really immature,really stupid and really full of himself. It leaked out of all of his posts. This isn't the first thread where he asked a pretty stupid question and then pretended he actually had experience. Just go back and read a few posts.

[rocknhorse76]

I'm sure he'll be missed dearly lol

[Pareeeee]

I also think it was intentional. It was very weird, I think he knew it would provoke a negative response, and that's what he wanted.

I know an individual like in person, so for me it's not too wild a notion to suggest that it was intentional.

[bumblebat]

All of you could die in a genocide and I wouldn't care one bit. I'd just laugh about it and move on to a higher quality forum, which I've been wanting to do for some time now.

All of you could die in a genocide and I wouldn't care one bit.

All of you could die in a genocide

die in a genocide

in a genocide

Wait, what?

[Pareeeee]

Wait, what?

LOL your post made me literally laugh out loud.

[NCHornet]

But the guy at Petco said it was ok to put them together!!!!!!




Here's your sign!!!!

[Amadeus]

I had a good laugh from reading this thread, bahhhh higher quality forum lolololol genocide.

[Jules1618]

Your kidding right. 2 males and different species?
Are you hoping to get rid of one?

Good one - haha