View Full Version : Lost Snake Nighmare.....
Chris72
04-22-13, 11:31 AM
Friends...We need your help.
N.B. To those who may wish to judge or insult myself or my wife...please move on. Your comments are not welcome here.
So my wife was so happy to see Faro happy, healthy and properly humid when we came back from Flordia last week that she stayed up watching TV on Friday night with him...and...fell alseep. She woke up at 4am and poof...no ball paython to be found!!
Here are the details:
Faro: Oct 2012 male B.P., 25inches, very full and healthy, very curious, April 10th ate two rat pups, April 17th ate 1 rat pup.
The house: Small split level with very few places to look, cold laundyroom with crawl space that is so cold it is not comfotable on my bare feet. ONE of the registers upstairs has a routered wooden cover with openings such that he could get into the vent system if he wanted.
Note: I examining every single nook and crany of the house I see marks in the vent of a high D/S bathroom register that clearly look like he arrived there, looked around and turned around. (foot prints in dust if you will)
What we are doing so far:
** Looking everywhere and under / in everything as often as we can.
**Cleared out closets and placed hides, and shallow water dishes with aquarium sand in the bottom so we can tell if he was in there for a bath. Also, hides and water all over the house.
** Have flour down across every hard floor so we can see if he is moving around.
**Have picked up 4 live feeder rats (rats strink!!). During the day the rats live in the tub of the bathroom where I belive he has visited via the high wall vent. large heated blanket on the floor of this room.
** By night I put the rats into two little plastic reptile carriers (6x3) with fully vented tops and I have put holes along all corners for added smell disbursment. (Rats are kept well fed and watered during the day) In the evening these two totes are placed one on each level, on 3foot x 3foot foil surrounded by flour.
** the house is kept at 80 to 85 degrees and I have put a hole in the laundry room exchange so to heat the lower part of the house a little more.
**Twice daily I have been running a screaming hot shower with the doors open to increase %RH.
** I have rigged a towel from the high bathroom register with his "foot prints" such that he has a path to travel if he comes back. If he falls from there the fall is well cushioned. I have also hung a mesh bag with paper tissue that stinks of rats 8 inches from that wall register to lure him out.
All of this....and we cannot find, nor get a sence that he is around.
When my iguana got out the odd time I would find her in my guitar bag within 24 hrs. I have never lost a snake so this is new to me and it has been nealry 72 hrs. Last night I sat up listening for something in the vents, or Faro crawling over the tin foil along the walls...until 2am. Nothing.
With the live rats lures and the D/S bathroom stinking of live rats I would have bet he would have been around already.
If I knew where he was in the vents I would cut the wall. Whatever it takes! We have checked all the standard things like couches, everything on the floors, etc. But its like he is just gone.
Help...ideas...ways to improve the lures?
Help?:shocked::shocked::shocked:
smy_749
04-22-13, 11:35 AM
Hes probably sitting somewhere dark, close to his escaped cage. DArk takes precedence over warm. Make a snake trap. cut a soda 2 liter bottle, turn it inside out. tape a cloth tube to the nossle, and tape it back on so the nossle is inward. throw a rat in there. goes in , cant find a way out. You can google it and find threads with pics. if hes too big for that, find something bigger.
Chris72
04-22-13, 12:00 PM
Hes probably sitting somewhere dark, close to his escaped cage. DArk takes precedence over warm. Make a snake trap. cut a soda 2 liter bottle, turn it inside out. tape a cloth tube to the nossle, and tape it back on so the nossle is inward. throw a rat in there. goes in , cant find a way out. You can google it and find threads with pics. if hes too big for that, find something bigger.
OK.. I will get two more live rats tonight and build one of those for each floor.
I put his cage on the floor of the room where it normally is, next to a register, with two hides around it.
We keep very little on the floors so there is very few places to hide. Normal feeding day is Wednesday so Im hoping he will start "hunting" soon.
:hmm:
Mark Taylor
04-22-13, 12:07 PM
Be careful leaving live rats as bate. What happens if the rat hurts the snake unsupervised?
Chris72
04-22-13, 12:52 PM
Be careful leaving live rats as bate. What happens if the rat hurts the snake unsupervised?
Great point.
I will use pinkies for the traps. As for the 4 smalls...he has no access to them at anytime. They are simply for scent...bail if you will.
smy_749
04-22-13, 12:55 PM
Great point.
I will use pinkies for the traps. As for the 4 smalls...he has no access to them at anytime. They are simply for scent...bail if you will.
I meant FT, I think a live rat will eat his way through or be smart enough to get out
Chris72
04-22-13, 01:27 PM
I meant FT, I think a live rat will eat his way through or be smart enough to get out
I was thinking small pinkies so Im not tossing F/T rats in the trash daily...but after my last post I realized I dont want to starve pinkies to death either. I'll use F/T for the traps.
The smalls Im using as bait in the clear plastic (vented) enclosured are gobbling up parrot food and hard boiled egg yolks during the days so come night time the just lay there...stinking like rats in the middle of the floured foil. (but the snake cannot accuatlly come in contact with those.
All: Crawl space question - I have that crawl space with the cement floor so cold it is rather uncomfortable on my feet. I have gone on the assumtion that the cement is so cold he would not actually be able to move over it. (like ice on naked skin for us) So we didnt pull eveything out of there. Am I wrong on the temp assumtion?
Mark Taylor
04-22-13, 01:47 PM
Yes imop the snake is lost and looking for a safe, warm place it will do what ever it takes to achieve this. If your snake will eat F/T then why do you feed live?
All you can do is look pull the cooker, fridge out anything that it could get behind chances are it wont be on the floor.
Chris72
04-22-13, 02:14 PM
Yes imop the snake is lost and looking for a safe, warm place...........All you can do is look pull the cooker, fridge out anything that it could get behind chances are it wont be on the floor.
Correct. Lets assume we have the standard ideas covered like checking regularly under and around the stove, fridge, book cases, pillows, closets, shoes, under and around the bed, dressers, etc.
Looking for additional advanced ideas beyond what is stated above. Very interested in ideas on how to lure him out from the ducting system as I think there is a chance he is in there.
smy_749
04-22-13, 02:14 PM
Yes imop the snake is lost and looking for a safe, warm place it will do what ever it takes to achieve this. If your snake will eat F/T then why do you feed live?
All you can do is look pull the cooker, fridge out anything that it could get behind chances are it wont be on the floor.
i disagree, dont limit your search to warm places. dark tight spaces, cold or warm is your target. He will sit in a cold space , its not out of the question
Mark Taylor
04-22-13, 02:18 PM
Not sure if it would work but if you could make it light/bright he may want to look elsewhere?
Mark Taylor
04-22-13, 02:19 PM
i disagree, dont limit your search to warm places. dark tight spaces, cold or warm is your target. He will sit in a cold space , its not out of the question
That's what I was saying lol
Mark Taylor
04-22-13, 02:22 PM
Once it finds a place it will stay there till it needs food or water or more or less light/heat/humidity. It knows how to stay alive, its just weather or not it find what it needs quick enough to survive.
Terranaut
04-22-13, 03:07 PM
I only skimmed the thread (at work) but try up under your couch or othe furniture in the room. Probably not far from where he was lost. He will come out in the black of night if he comes out at all. Good luck.
Mark Taylor
04-22-13, 03:15 PM
^^^^^^^ If it is stressed Imop it would just curl up somewhere close to where he was, now with less adequate husbandry. I really hope you find your snake.
Chris72
04-22-13, 03:15 PM
I only skimmed the thread (at work) but try up under your couch or othe furniture in the room. Probably not far from where he was lost. He will come out in the black of night if he comes out at all. Good luck.
Yup. Checked both couches literally inside / out. Put all pillows and blankets in a plastic bag and in the crawl space. Took 95% of everything off the floor from the floor where he....got bored of watching TV with the wife.
I'm going to change his name to Houdini...!
Re Cold Crawl space - thanks boys....I will empty that out tonight.
(Keep the ideas comin')
Chris72
04-22-13, 05:28 PM
Shelf height question:
If Faro is 25 inches long including his thin little tail stub....how high can he climb / reach?
C.
smy_749
04-22-13, 05:33 PM
Don't think like that :P Just search everything. Get on your belly infront of his cage and think about where you would go if you were a snake and looking for some place to hide hahah sounds silly but you might see something at his level you didn't see before. And concentrate closest to where he escaped for now since they usually don't go very far before finding a nice hideout.
Did you check inside dressers/ desks/ the underside of the bed frame? How do you heat your house? I have those old panel heaters if you have them you may want to check in there too.
Chris72
04-22-13, 06:30 PM
Don't think like that :P Just search everything. Get on your belly infront of his cage and think about where you would go if you were a snake and looking for some place to hide hahah sounds silly but you might see something at his level you didn't see before. And concentrate closest to where he escaped for now since they usually don't go very far before finding a nice hideout.
Did you check inside dressers/ desks/ the underside of the bed frame? How do you heat your house? I have those old panel heaters if you have them you may want to check in there too.
Ready to rip the bedroom to pieces after the number times I have been in and under everything. But have not pull the mattress right off the frame yet.
The upstairs (were he vanished) has a bedroom, living room, bathroom and kitchen. Nothing left on the floor in the L/R (TV mounted into wall), hall closet has nothing but a big dish of water and 3hides, nothing to hide under in the washroom....but....there is that on heating vent with a wooden routered cover!!:hmm:
He would fit easy in that! It angles down, and its covered now....but I do look often.
milk man
04-23-13, 12:41 AM
Ready to rip the bedroom to pieces after the number times I have been in and under everything. But have not pull the mattress right off the frame yet.
The upstairs (were he vanished) has a bedroom, living room, bathroom and kitchen. Nothing left on the floor in the L/R (TV mounted into wall), hall closet has nothing but a big dish of water and 3hides, nothing to hide under in the washroom....but....there is that on heating vent with a wooden routered cover!!:hmm:
He would fit easy in that! It angles down, and its covered now....but I do look often.
Did you checked all the drawers? When I was young and my king snake escaped I would always find him in drawers. Some of them I thought were imposable for him to reach. Good luck!
SnakeyJay
04-23-13, 06:33 AM
My friend found his corn 6 months later in a top kitchen cupboard... It was a 3ft corn so they're pretty crafty with climbing etc.
Chris72
04-23-13, 08:40 AM
Drawers: the dressers close with less than 1/8 inch gap and there are no openings at the rear so that's impossible since he's 1 & 1/4 inches at his belly.
My lower lever was like rat-a-palazzo last night.....nothing.
I think I tonight I am going to try kink led tin foil all along the walls and turn the motion sensors on. If he moves over the foil that should trip a sensor and wake us up.
smy_749
04-23-13, 08:47 AM
Check the drawers anyways. All of them, and all your cabinets.
Pythonsrus
04-23-13, 11:13 AM
Put a heat pad on the floor in the room he was in last. Use thermostat. You can also try putting plastic bags all over your house and just sitting very still and listening, worked great for me.
Terranaut
04-23-13, 12:52 PM
Remove the drawers completely and look inside the dresser.
Chris72
04-23-13, 02:37 PM
Remove the drawers completely and look inside the dresser.
Yeah...I came home early today for this.
I dismantled the bedroom....nothing! (Seriously)
I built the bedroom furniture a long time ago and went a little over board. Each drawer fits into (basically) a wooden slot and the closed clearance at the front is actually closer to 1/16 inch or less. When closed its like a safe.
Regardless, I pulled it all apart. (Found an Apple TV remote)
Then went back to all the usual spots. (In, around, under, etc)
Felt like I was in a scene from Aliens while I was on a chair looking into a dark heat register looking down at all the different vent branches. (Head lamp and mirror in hand). I have not found any other vent "foot prints in the dust" but I'm starting to really belive he is in there.
Today is normal feeding day so hopefully Rat-a-palluza lures him out soon.
:sad::sad::sad::sad::hmm::hmm::hmm:
Terranaut
04-23-13, 02:59 PM
Well keep it up. How big is the snake?
Chris72
04-23-13, 04:24 PM
Well keep it up. How big is the snake?
He is October 2012' measured at 25 inches last week. Very healthily little fatso! He was on pups but since he could down 2 in one sitting I was going to go to smalls.
DeadlyDesires
04-23-13, 05:09 PM
He is October 2012' measured at 25 inches last week. Very healthily little fatso! He was on pups but since he could down 2 in one sitting I was going to go to smalls.
this is a ball python right? at just over 2 ft in length. are you talking about rat pups or mice pups? just curious because around that size my bp was eating adult mice. which would make sense switching him to a small rat if thats what your talking about. he will grow out of that fast too lol.. mine now eats medium/large rats.. hes at 2ft 9 inches.. ours was only on adult mice for about a month then we learned we should switch to rats so we did.
TotalDbag
04-23-13, 05:19 PM
Anything in the house that he could possibly burrow under?
Chris72
04-23-13, 06:06 PM
Size / feed :
yes of course rat smalls. (You shouldn't feed mice to balls) He is about two foot even. He was on one pup/week when I got him and put size /appetite on quickly. We take very good care of him. (Short of my wife's TV marathon)
Burrow under: nope.
TotalDbag
04-23-13, 07:15 PM
Size / feed :
yes of course rat smalls. (You shouldn't feed mice to balls) He is about two foot even. He was on one pup/week when I got him and put size /appetite on quickly. We take very good care of him. (Short of my wife's TV marathon)
Burrow under: nope.
No plants, or anything?
Does your cabinets on the wall go all the way to the ceiling? Maybe he got on top of there somehow.
Chris72
04-23-13, 08:14 PM
Nope no plants.
Kitchen cabinets only go counter high, then re-start about two feet about counter.
Have been looking again for hours again today. The wife is staying with the girls so I can set up rat-stock all over the upstairs tonight. (Need to hit the sack soon)
TotalDbag
04-23-13, 09:09 PM
How bout clothes, or other fabrics in the house that he could hide, and keep warm in?
Chris72
04-24-13, 07:18 AM
How bout clothes, or other fabrics in the house that he could hide, and keep warm in?
Yup. Per original post: Checking all he standard places like its my job. Have started to bag clothes and move out the the garage so there is less to check.
Looking for ideas on how to lure him out of the vents if he crawled in there.(?) nothing again last night with 8 rat lures on set up. (Most upstairs this time)
Going to shut the furnace off just now and place two dead rat pups near the holes I cut in the high exchanges. (One hot side/one cool side) near where I belive I saw his "dust foot prints" inside a vent. Rats on large sticky traps, traps duct taped to edge of ducting.
Any other ideas?
Danimal
04-24-13, 08:11 AM
Sticky traps?
Lankyrob
04-24-13, 08:58 AM
Yup. Per original post: Checking all he standard places like its my job. Have started to bag clothes and move out the the garage so there is less to check.
Looking for ideas on how to lure him out of the vents if he crawled in there.(?) nothing again last night with 8 rat lures on set up. (Most upstairs this time)
Going to shut the furnace off just now and place two dead rat pups near the holes I cut in the high exchanges. (One hot side/one cool side) near where I belive I saw his "dust foot prints" inside a vent. Rats on large sticky traps, traps duct taped to edge of ducting.
Any other ideas?
I would not use anything sticky oruse ducttape. If the snake gets stuck and struggles to get away itcould cause horrific injuries.
TotalDbag
04-24-13, 09:03 AM
I would not use anything sticky oruse ducttape. If the snake gets stuck and struggles to get away itcould cause horrific injuries.
I'm going to have to agree with the no sticky stuff.
Chris72
04-24-13, 09:32 AM
I would not use anything sticky oruse ducttape. If the snake gets stuck and struggles to get away itcould cause horrific injuries.
Yeah. I struggled with the idea but since that lure is literally inside the venting exchange I don't want him to eat & retreat back into the venting. Or more importantly since the exchanges are 9 foot up I didn't want him to attack and curl, then fall on the cement floor.
That said: I don't need to do that again. Any ideas of how to find him in or lure him out of duct work if in fact that is we're he is? Have had zero evidence to show he roams the halls at night..so....yeah?? (Use lots of lures, flour, foil along walls under motion sensors, heat mats with hides and water dishes, etc.)
:hmm:
Danimal
04-24-13, 10:33 AM
There is only so much you can do, the rest is patience, and some luck.
I lost one for 6 months, One day it was just curled up in the foyer.
Chris72
04-24-13, 12:49 PM
I lost one for 6 months, One day it was just curled up in the foyer.
This is something I wonder about actually. He is only 7 months old or so, 25 inches long and well fed.
Not sure how long he can last like that. My biggest fear is that if he is in the venting he might end up as snake Jerky from the heat. Attempting to NOT use the furnace as much as we can and we have agreed to not use air-con at all this summer incase he is in there.
I actually hate that routered decorative vent cover and have been meaning to replace it with a standard..damn it, damn it!!
@ Icole - How old was the snake that went AWOL for 6 months?
:no:
smy_749
04-24-13, 03:34 PM
This is something I wonder about actually. He is only 7 months old or so, 25 inches long and well fed.
Not sure how long he can last like that. My biggest fear is that if he is in the venting he might end up as snake Jerky from the heat. Attempting to NOT use the furnace as much as we can and we have agreed to not use air-con at all this summer incase he is in there.
I actually hate that routered decorative vent cover and have been meaning to replace it with a standard..damn it, damn it!!
@ Icole - How old was the snake that went AWOL for 6 months?
:no:
I won't say stop looking, but you can't look all day everyday forever. Your bound to exhaust your options and some places you just would'nt even think he could be hiding in.
But again, if he can't get to the outside of your house through any of the vents, ceiling boards or anything. He will hopefully turn up eventually in your bathroom sink or something.
Bel5191
04-24-13, 03:41 PM
I work with a woman who's son had a ball python that got out. They found it four months later in closet, fat as ever.
Balls can last quite a while without food, especially if they are laying dormant. My female refused to eat for 6 months and she barely lost any weight, so I wouldn't stress about that too much :)
Edit: Also! Check book shelves. If any of my snakes were out they always seem to head towards a shelf as there are tight spaces beside and on top of the books.
Chris72
04-24-13, 04:11 PM
All books have been packed into rubbermaid containers and are in the garage. Shelves nearly empty.
Part of me expects to find him sitting in my Amazon Parrots cage one morning with the both of them giving eachother the "what the hell are you"...look. She is the size of a foot ball so I think she is off the menu for now. :)
Mine was an adult when she went AWOL, but she didn't eat from October to May starting when she was 18 months old. I am sure your snake can survive. Also it depends on your heat, but The air coming through my vents on our electric heat pump is not to hot for a snake.
Zoo Nanny
04-25-13, 02:30 PM
Oh that poor snake if he gets in with the zon! They all have attitudes and a half. One of my favorites but then again it's the birds with attitude I like the best.
Hopefully he'll show up soon.
Danimal
04-25-13, 02:42 PM
Oh that poor snake if he gets in with the zon! They all have attitudes and a half. One of my favorites but then again it's the birds with attitude I like the best.
Hopefully he'll show up soon.
Yep I thought the same thing, I have an amazon and I pity anything that gets in that cage with her uninvited.
Joffnan
04-25-13, 03:37 PM
Have you looked up inside appliances. For instance tip washing machine over and check inside the bottom? Any appliance where the underside might be open? Or as someone suggested earlier, inside the settee? If the lining has a hole anywhere it could get inside.
Good luck.
Chris72
04-25-13, 08:42 PM
Have you looked up inside appliances. For instance tip washing machine over and check inside the bottom? Any appliance where the underside might be open? Or as someone suggested earlier, inside the settee? If the lining has a hole anywhere it could get inside.
Good luck.
Yeah, up under fridge, when I pull the drawer out of the stove I can see right to the back wall (pull it out anyway), I had my wife crawl under the washer and dryer while I hold at a 45.
So far I can not find eve dance that he is here. I am leaving (safe) live rat traps & lures every night.... Nada!!
:no::sorry::(
Chris72
04-25-13, 08:50 PM
Yep I thought the same thing, I have an amazon and I pity anything that gets in that cage with her uninvited.
Yeah they can be a hand full. Not mine.
See the attached picture. This is as nasty as My girl gets. She has a giant sense of entitlement when it comes to whatever I might be eating, doing, using or playing with. Fozzie the bird...so not a bad @ss. She tries to make friends with everything from ducks to cats and wild rabbits. Plus a giant suck.
Zoo Nanny
04-26-13, 07:05 PM
She's adorable!
TotalDbag
04-29-13, 07:54 AM
Any updates?
Please, and thank you.
Chris72
04-29-13, 11:34 AM
Any updates?
Please, and thank you.
Unfortunatly, no.
Have had zero indication to show he is roaming around at all.
I stayed awake so much last week I could hardly think on the weekend. (sitting in the dark playing on the iPad...listening...waiting)
The motion sensors (alarm) did go off once, but it was a the power not the crinkled tin foil.
I had to dispatch "Rat-A-Polluza" that was spending thier days in the D/S bathroom becasue....the bigger ones stink. I dont think I ever want to do that again!
He has been gone about 1 & 1/2 weeks now. I think we have used the heat only twice, and will not need it anymore this year. (Of course we will not be using Air-Con at all) so if he is in fact taking a tour of the vents he has a good chance.
I have attached two pictures of the indavudual currrently on his own personal Walkabout...Slither-about? :sad: "Faro"
Thanks for asking. (You cant be a Total-Dbag?) :)
smy_749
04-29-13, 07:43 PM
Its only been a week and a half, still pretty early. Maybe since its about time for a meal, and will be warming up, you will see him soon.
Pareeeee
04-29-13, 08:44 PM
Dunno if it's been suggested, but in the evening try sprinkling flour on the floor (if it's not carpeted...) in front of things such as the fridge, desks, entertainment unit, oven, etc. and check in the morning to see if it's been disturbed.
you should put a heat source under your live traps, may have a higher chance of attracting him.
Starbuck
04-30-13, 03:37 AM
r.e. the flour trick:
one of my small colubrids got out almost 3 weeks ago (still awol), and i tried to flour trick. To see what a disturbance would look like, i took another of my snakes out and let her slither over it. This might be different with a heavy bodied BP, but my king only flattened the flour out, i couldnt see any 'tracks' or footprints. I ended up pulling the flour into tiny ridges across all the doorways etc. No sign of him moving around yet though :/
Best of luck!
Aaron_S
04-30-13, 06:31 AM
He'll show up eventually.
I didn't read the entire thread but most lost snakes are always found nearby their escape so double check the original area.
MikeM77
04-30-13, 12:00 PM
The one time my ball got out she curled up in the window sill next to her tank and was sunning herself. Fortunately she didn't go far and was only out for a couple hours tops. Good luck hope she turns up soon.
Chris72
04-30-13, 12:08 PM
Dunno if it's been suggested, but in the evening try sprinkling flour on the floor (if it's not carpeted...) in front of things such as the fridge, desks, entertainment unit, oven, etc. and check in the morning to see if it's been disturbed.
you should put a heat source under your live traps, may have a higher chance of attracting him.
Yeah, we are doing:
- the flour (previously baited with live smalls)...preps with a comb.
- crinkled tin foil under motion sensors at night.
- moved most of the upstairs stuff to the garage after triple checking.
- sitting up till stupid o'clock at night listening....for....(what was that?)
- etc, etc, etc....everything short of video on a sensor. That might be good reasoning to get a go-pro)...need to talk to the wife!! :)
:crazy::nerd::hmm:
DeadlyDesires
04-30-13, 12:46 PM
i doubt hes moving right now... he is prolly hiding out somewhere he feels safe and warm.
This is true, I find that once they find a comfortable spot they will stay there for a bit before moving again.
They pick the weirdest spots....Once we found one of our balls sitting pretty on top of our vacuum :O_o: haha.
Adam165
05-08-13, 11:48 AM
I check this thread daily to see if you've found it and where it was. Keep us updated lol
Chris72
05-08-13, 03:07 PM
Thanks Adam.
You better belive I will let you know when I find him. He was very well fed when he took off. Now that I look back at my original freak-out I should have known that it would havee been a min of two weeks before he even thought about budging.
Still have 1/2 the house in the garage, sit on camp chairs in the living room have his cage on the floor near a dish of water & keep the foil on the floors at night, etc, etc. Could be a long haul...Im hoping we are looking at weeks, not months.
Fear not...I will update even if I see a sign.
C.
smy_749
05-08-13, 04:09 PM
Thanks Adam.
You better belive I will let you know when I find him. He was very well fed when he took off. Now that I look back at my original freak-out I should have known that it would havee been a min of two weeks before he even thought about budging.
Still have 1/2 the house in the garage, sit on camp chairs in the living room have his cage on the floor near a dish of water & keep the foil on the floors at night, etc, etc. Could be a long haul...Im hoping we are looking at weeks, not months.
Fear not...I will update even if I see a sign.
C.
You know, I feel like keeping the furniture and stuff in the garage may have been a bad idea. You'd be suprised at what he can wedge into. I hope your garage is sealed because he may be inside something out there.
"Still have 1/2 the house in the garage, sit on camp chairs in the living room have his cage on the floor near a dish of water & keep the foil on the floors at night"
You're weird dude.
Don't tell people that.
The nice young men in their clean white coats,
they're coming to take you away,
heehee hoho haha,
to the funny farm; where life is beautiful all the time.
Chris72
05-10-13, 05:56 AM
You know, I feel like keeping the furniture and stuff in the garage may have been a bad idea. You'd be suprised at what he can wedge into. I hope your garage is sealed because he may be inside something out there.
Thought if that. Put couches in the basement. Along with other things with lots of places to hide.
The garage has thing that could be taken apart to make sure there was no snake. Still lots of places to hide but easy to check now. The upstairs closets have been turned into little snake motels so if he wanders in he might be inclined to stay.
Concern appreciated but great care was taken to ensure he was not taken out in anything. :)
smy_749
05-10-13, 06:44 AM
Thought if that. Put couches in the basement. Along with other things with lots of places to hide.
The garage has thing that could be taken apart to make sure there was no snake. Still lots of places to hide but easy to check now. The upstairs closets have been turned into little snake motels so if he wanders in he might be inclined to stay.
Concern appreciated but great care was taken to ensure he was not taken out in anything. :)
Ah ok, just making sure. All I can think about, is how in the world is your wife putting up with you right now HAHA
Chris72
05-10-13, 10:46 AM
Ah ok, just making sure. All I can think about, is how in the world is your wife putting up with you right now HAHA
Main reason:
...She is awsome.
Secondary reason:
...She feel alseep with Faro on her lap and lost him....so anything goes!
:sorry::sorry::unibrow::sorry::sorry:
MoreliAddict
05-10-13, 10:48 AM
Is Faro a morph?
Fingers crossed for you to find him..
Chris72
05-10-13, 11:14 AM
Is Faro a morph?
Fingers crossed for you to find him..
Nope.
Just a really good looking normal.
My wife thinks he is Cinny but I dont think so.
Chris; your missing snake is named Faro?
His last name should be Way.
Get it?
Faro Way?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
That's hy-larious.
Hope you find him Sir.
Terranaut
05-11-13, 09:02 AM
Chris; your missing snake is named Faro?
His last name should be Way.
Get it?
Faro Way?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
That's hy-larious.
Hope you find him Sir.
Now thats funny !!!
NextMorph
05-11-13, 03:50 PM
He'll show up eventually.
I didn't read the entire thread but most lost snakes are always found nearby their escape so double check the original area.
I agree with this. I know you've probably heard it a million times and think "duh, of course I checked around its cage" but really.... it is SOOO common for them to be very close, and sometimes they are really good at hiding even in obvious-ish places. I would really really recommend forgetting about the rest of the place for an evening and just REALLLLY focusing on the area immediately around the enclosure.
I wish you the best of luck!!
NextMorph
05-11-13, 03:52 PM
Might I add, I hope it's your normal male, not your mystic potion. Lol. Not that it's nice for any snake to go missing, but I'd sure be stressing over a missing mystic potion.
sweatshirt
05-13-13, 12:26 PM
I know this is kind of late to post, but what I learned from having my old corn lost for 5 months, is to not get stressed. It's extremely hard to find a snake, any size, and they usually turn up on their own accord.
Jules1618
05-17-13, 05:54 AM
Did you ever find him?????
Boafreak79
05-18-13, 05:23 PM
hope you found him or find him soon bud, i know from personal experience how bad that can suck used to have one crate just within reach of my kids, they popped the latches then got scared and took off without relatching it....an hour later poof gone found him hiding in some cookware in the kitchen about two weeks later
Chris72
05-22-13, 06:08 PM
Did you ever find him?????
Not yet......but.......
One of the huge Corning ware saucers I'm using for water on the floor showed clearly that he was in there. (Aquarium sand swirled around...no question)
I think I will also keep out a couple of large Tupperware with an inch of water, then full of moss. Two of my current snakes like to hang out under the moss when they are near a shed.
Sooooooo...he's around...and he's sneaky. :shocked:
I totally sympathize...I once fell asleep with a snake on my lap, for a whole 5 minutes watching the late news, & of course my snake made a run for it! But he was only under my chair (it was a rocker-recliner...I was VERY careful when I got up!).
I don't know if your kitchen cupboards are made the same where you are, but here, if you lay on the floor looking up (like a snake) or use a mirror under the front of the cabinets, there is a little crawl space under the bottoms of the cupboards into which snakes are magnetically drawn... An adult bull snake of mine got loose (many years ago) & hibernated for 6 months under my kitchen cupboards, then came out none the worse for wear. I was pretty sure that's where she was (by process of elimination...I tore everything else apart, but stopped short of ripping out cupboards) and was SO relieved that she was ok. Ball pythons have been known to fast easily for a year or more, btw.
I've heard of snakes wedging behind toilets, finding holes in the lining under beds/couches, going into the garbage disposal (<found uninjured!), hiding in boots, in kitchen stoves & other major appliances...you name it? But I do hope he turns up soon!
Concept9
05-23-13, 06:31 AM
Keep on him you will get it back.
Took me 2 months when I lost mine.
I kept putting food, water and warm hides out and eventually it prevailed. :)
sweatshirt
05-25-13, 08:03 PM
Good luck, I'm sure he'll turn up. :)
rmfsnakes32
05-25-13, 10:39 PM
I lost a newborn baby corn was missing for nearly 7 months turned up in the basement
Jules1618
06-04-13, 06:05 AM
Chris anything yet???
TotalDbag
06-05-13, 12:43 AM
Wouldn't it be funny if he was in his cage the entire time?..................... IS he in his cage????
slowhite03
06-05-13, 01:14 AM
Put a mouse by that dish and just camp out. I'm sure he is quite hungry
sweatshirt
06-05-13, 02:15 AM
Wouldn't it be funny if he was in his cage the entire time?..................... IS he in his cage????
That reminds me... I found my old corn that was missing for about 5 months STUCK in a new hide I had got her. That was horrible.
Jules1618
06-05-13, 05:29 AM
That reminds me... I found my old corn that was missing for about 5 months STUCK in a new hide I had got her. That was horrible.
Was it ok???
Mikoh4792
06-05-13, 07:19 AM
I lost a newborn baby corn was missing for nearly 7 months turned up in the basement
Damn. Wonder what kinds of things it had to kill and eat.
MoreliAddict
06-05-13, 07:59 AM
That reminds me... I found my old corn that was missing for about 5 months STUCK in a new hide I had got her. That was horrible.
Could you imagine being crammed and stuck into a tiny place, and (with such a slow metabolism) live for 5 months like that? Would be crazy..
Jules1618
06-05-13, 05:36 PM
Well it could colubrids don't eat in the winter months
Chris72
06-08-13, 03:03 AM
Chris anything yet???
Sorta.....
There was the swirled sand we found in a water dish to show he was soaking. Plus the fact that all the krinkled tin found (along down stairs walls) has never set off the motion sensors at night. So we know he is around and we know he is upstairs.
The basement is normally around 71 to 77. Recently I put an oil rad in the snake room that holds air temp right at 80 so I set up another hide at the foot of that door just incase he does find his way down there.
He hi being....veeeery sneeeeeaky!:hmm:
Thanks for
formica
06-08-13, 03:21 AM
Sorta.....
There was the swirled sand we found in a water dish to show he was soaking. Plus the fact that all the krinkled tin found (along down stairs walls) has never set off the motion sensors at night. So we know he is around and we know he is upstairs.
The basement is normally around 71 to 77. Recently I put an oil rad in the snake room that holds air temp right at 80 so I set up another hide at the foot of that door just incase he does find his way down there.
He hi being....veeeery sneeeeeaky!:hmm:
Thanks for
probly already been suggested, but a heat lamp setup sumwhere, in a room it knows and feels secure in, or somewhere secluded and quiet, will almost certainly bring it out, they have great heat seeking sensitivity and it might want to bask at some point, depending on the temps in your house - u'll have to sit n watch it I suspect, baring in mind that snakes are very sensitive to vibration and once warmed up, could disappear again before you've walked to whatever room you set it up in. in door picnic and snake spotting for the weekend it sounds like to me! best of luck, i'm sure u'll find it soon
Terranaut
06-08-13, 04:12 AM
Well if he is upstairs and you have a bathroom upstairs fill the tub with hot water before bed and put a hide with heat mat in there. The moisture will attract him. The heat will keep him. Also try keeping every light in the house on until late. The turn everything off,wait 10 min and then run around turning it all back on and look for him. They come out rigjt when the lights go off when in their enclosures right.... good luck!!
Mikoh4792
06-08-13, 04:16 AM
Well if he is upstairs and you have a bathroom upstairs fill the tub with hot water before bed and put a hide with heat mat in there. The moisture will attract him. The heat will keep him. Also try keeping every light in the house on until late. The turn everything off,wait 10 min and then run around turning it all back on and look for him. They come out rigjt when the lights go off when in their enclosures right.... good luck!!
This is only if you wanna go extreme but....
You could do this for every room and leave a mouse in each one. Which ever room the mouse goes missing in you know which part of the house he prefers to be in. They won't move as much with a full stomach either so he won't be too far away from where you left the mouse as long as there are hiding spots.
Jules1618
06-08-13, 09:15 AM
I know the feeling, my stomach dropped when my ball escaped
I heated the while house and then dropped the temp
Found him at night climbing the Stairs
sweatshirt
06-08-13, 09:20 AM
Was it ok???
Yeah, just so skinny... I slowly brought her back up to large feedings. I felt horrible knowing she was stuck there in a new hide I had got her to feel safe in.
Sadly, she got loose (again... even with locks *sigh*) about 8 months ago... I don't know if I'll ever find her.
sweatshirt
06-08-13, 09:22 AM
Could you imagine being crammed and stuck into a tiny place, and (with such a slow metabolism) live for 5 months like that? Would be crazy..
I know... you don't know how much I cried when I found her. I couldn't believe she was right in front of me the whole time. It was one of those complex hides with fake moss and crevices and stuff. My mom had to gently crack the whole thing so she wouldn't squish my snake. The process took like 5 hours, I'm proud of my mom for that, because she's terrified of snakes. :/ I spoiled her to death after that. I miss her.
Hopefully she'll turn up one day.
Jakeslither
06-08-13, 05:50 PM
I hope he turns up soon! my heart with sink if one of mine went missing!
slowhite03
06-09-13, 12:00 AM
When was its last shed? I only ask because when my snake escaped and I tore up my house he was shedding so he wasn't coming out for anything
TotalDbag
06-09-13, 12:44 AM
Haven't checked in here for awhile. I'm sorry to hear you still haven't found your snake. Have you thought about cooling your house down a couple degrees, and putting some heat sources in one or two rooms? Maybe that'll smoke him out.
Jules1618
06-09-13, 06:30 AM
Yeah, just so skinny... I slowly brought her back up to large feedings. I felt horrible knowing she was stuck there in a new hide I had got her to feel safe in.
Sadly, she got loose (again... even with locks *sigh*) about 8 months ago... I don't know if I'll ever find her.
I'm glad you found her and you were able to bring her back
Chris72
06-10-13, 09:21 PM
Few new (good ideas). I like Dans idea full (warm tub) with a heat source. Looking for rolls of heat tape this week (some melamine followed me home!) so I'll get extra to leave areound. Thanks everyone!
Concept9
06-11-13, 06:27 AM
Few new (good ideas). I like Dans idea full (warm tub) with a heat source. Looking for rolls of heat tape this week (some melamine followed me home!) so I'll get extra to leave areound. Thanks everyone!
I know most of this has already been suggested to one degree or another.
But when I lost my snake, after many hours of searching, setting traps and tearing a lot of dry wall down. I set up a camera where I thought she was coming out. Sure enough after reviewing the camera she would come out every few days.
THE PLAN: I cut and set up a large cardboard box like a fence leaving a space where she could get in. I laid a towel on the floor under it and put a red heat lamp over top for heat and insulation. I also put in a hide, water dish and mouse.
The Trap Is Set: I then set watching this for four days, late afternoon and evenings when I knew she was coning out. After three days I think it was she came out and I waited till she got away from her escape route
and nabbed her.
I hope this help to some degree, Oh, BTW she was gone for 9 weeks before I got her back. She was tiny from no food and dehydrated but in good health other then that and is doing GREAT now.
Jakeslither
06-11-13, 02:55 PM
Any updates for today Chris? ;o
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