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bcr226
03-16-13, 12:40 PM
We have a male pastel ball python. I have an opportunity to basically pick a morph to mate him to. What would you guys recommend?

I want something that when combined with our pastel, will give us something really nice and that stands out.

Thanks!

Mike

Aaron_S
03-16-13, 01:01 PM
Just off the top of my head:

Cinnamon
Spider
Mojave
Lesser
Pastel
Fire
Black Pastel
Enchi
Calico/Sugar
Banana/Coral Glow
Pinstripe
Bumblebee
Lemonblast
Pewter
Pastave
Plesser
Firefly
Champagne
Spinner
Spinnerblast
pewter blast
pewterbee
Leopard
Kingpin
Emperor Pin
Queenbee
Mochi
Spotnose
Powerball
Twilight
Orange Dream
het red axanthic
Red axanthic
Trick
Red Stripe
Blanchi
Vanilla
Disco
Butter
Sterling
Silver Bullet
Savannah
Black Magic
Calider
Camo
Cheetah
Chocolate
Inferno
Soul Sucker
Angel of Death
Red Spectrum
Superfly
Dragonfly
Butterfly
Mimosa
Jigsaw
Jigsaw Blast
Ivory pastel
Wizard ball
Motel Dream
Gargoyle
Onyx
Perignon
Ravenclaw
Quint
Black Widow
Sterling Bee
Ultrafly
Vanilla scream

Bloedig
03-16-13, 01:15 PM
Pinstripe, Spider, or Mojave

All are relatively inexpensive and would give you some good percentages for good results.

Use the Genetic Wizard at Worldofballpythons.com

Spider

25% 1/4 Normal
25% 1/4 Spider
25% 1/4 Pastel
25% 1/4 Bumble Bee

Pinstripe

25% 1/4 Normal
25% 1/4 Pinstripe
25% 1/4 Pastel
25% 1/4 Lemon Blast

Mojave

25% 1/4 Normal
25% 1/4 Mojave
25% 1/4 Pastel
25% 1/4 Pastave

Donnie
03-16-13, 02:31 PM
Just off the top of my head:

Cinnamon
Spider
Mojave
Lesser
Pastel
Fire
Black Pastel
Enchi
Calico/Sugar
Banana/Coral Glow
Pinstripe
Bumblebee
Lemonblast
Pewter
Pastave
Plesser
Firefly
Champagne
Spinner
Spinnerblast
pewter blast
pewterbee
Leopard
Kingpin
Emperor Pin
Queenbee
Mochi
Spotnose
Powerball
Twilight
Orange Dream
het red axanthic
Red axanthic
Trick
Red Stripe
Blanchi
Vanilla
Disco
Butter
Sterling
Silver Bullet
Savannah
Black Magic
Calider
Camo
Cheetah
Chocolate
Inferno
Soul Sucker
Angel of Death
Red Spectrum
Superfly
Dragonfly
Butterfly
Mimosa
Jigsaw
Jigsaw Blast
Ivory pastel
Wizard ball
Motel Dream
Gargoyle
Onyx
Perignon
Ravenclaw
Quint
Black Widow
Sterling Bee
Ultrafly
Vanilla scream

Just a couple to choose from then :laugh:

KORBIN5895
03-16-13, 03:11 PM
Get a highway!

Aaron_S
03-16-13, 04:24 PM
Get a highway!

When bred to a pastel it will only make:
Gravels
Yellowbellies
Pastel gravels
pastel yellowbellies

Not quite the stand out "real" nice the OP wants. ;)

KORBIN5895
03-16-13, 10:04 PM
When bred to a pastel it will only make:
Gravels
Yellowbellies
Pastel gravels
pastel yellowbellies

Not quite the stand out "real" nice the OP wants. ;)

But the highway has kicking resale value.....

bcr226
03-17-13, 09:13 AM
Someone suggested a queen bee to me. thoughts?

Bloedig
03-17-13, 09:55 AM
Good idea, but expensive ($1200 - $2500 is what I have seen). Could give you good mixes. Has Spider/Pastel/Lesser(Butter) Genes, so off spring would/should be a good mix.

Co-dominant
Lesser

Co-dominant
Pastel

Dominant
Spider

Aaron_S
03-17-13, 07:41 PM
Someone suggested a queen bee to me. thoughts?

I think a queenspin would be better.

bcr226
03-17-13, 11:21 PM
found a great deal on a hypo black pastel and a bumble bee. This should be interesting.

Aaron_S
03-18-13, 08:33 AM
If you wanted recessives I would have made that list also....

bcr226
03-18-13, 09:07 AM
I hadn't thought too hard about it but this deal is something I can't pass up. LOL

Bloedig
03-18-13, 01:00 PM
So what are the offspring genes and percentages?

bcr226
03-18-13, 02:07 PM
With the bumble bee...

12.5%1/8Normal25%2/8Pastel (http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/pastel/)12.5%1/8Spider (http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/spider/)25%2/8Bumble Bee (http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/bumble-bee/)12.5%1/8Super Pastel (http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/super-pastel/)12.5%1/8Killer Bee (http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/killer-bee/)
With the hypo black pastel...

25%1/4Het. Ghost25%1/4Black Pastel (http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/black-pastel/) Het. Ghost25%1/4Pastel (http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/pastel/) Het. Ghost25%1/4Black Pewter (http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/black-pewter/) Het. Ghost

Chu'Wuti
03-18-13, 02:14 PM
When bred to a pastel it will only make:
Gravels
Yellowbellies
Pastel gravels
pastel yellowbellies

Not quite the stand out "real" nice the OP wants. ;)

What, no asphalts or pewter asphalts? Darn!

Chu'Wuti
03-18-13, 02:21 PM
I am planning a Cinnamon (M) x Bumblebee (F) breeding when she gets big enough:

12.5% 1/8 Normal
12.5% 1/8 Pastel
12.5% 1/8 Spider
12.5% 1/8 Bumble Bee
12.5% 1/8 Cinnamon
12.5% 1/8 Pewter
12.5% 1/8 Cinna Bee
12.5% 1/8 Pewter Bee

I think it will be interesting. My only concern is the spider neurological issues; we'll see how it goes.

Bloedig
03-18-13, 02:39 PM
Ah, some nice combos!

Hurrok
03-18-13, 03:06 PM
Leopard/Leopard combos are nice.....

bcr226
03-24-13, 06:56 AM
Picked up the new additions yesterday. Please allow me to introduce Antigone...

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr136/efillc/Snakes/ball%20pythons/IMG_2308_zps6d35ad97.jpg

And, this is Thor...

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr136/efillc/Snakes/ball%20pythons/IMG_2374_zps7f8e66f4.jpg