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Luis A. Reyes
03-10-13, 09:42 AM
I need more space in my aquarium for my rats and mice(Separate tanks), so whats the best way to put them down so i could put them in a freezer?

Chu'Wuti
03-10-13, 09:45 AM
You can build a CO2 euthanizing chamber. Somewhere there are instructions . . .

I know some people bash them, but I couldn't do it, and I suspect that it would be all too easy to mis-bash and not completely kill one with the first bash, which would be inhumane.

I also know some people break their necks. Someone who knows how to do that will likely speak up to tell you how. Just not for me . . . but I'm squeamish! ;-)

Luis A. Reyes
03-10-13, 09:55 AM
You can build a CO2 euthanizing chamber. Somewhere there are instructions . . .

I know some people bash them, but I couldn't do it, and I suspect that it would be all too easy to mis-bash and not completely kill one with the first bash, which would be inhumane.

I also know some people break their necks. Someone who knows how to do that will likely speak up to tell you how. Just not for me . . . but I'm squeamish! ;-)
I willl look up building plans for that, how much do you thing Co2 cost, and where to get it?

Chu'Wuti
03-10-13, 10:07 AM
Here is some information on building one that I just found by googling:

CO2 Chamber (http://www.strictlyballs.ca/co2chamber.htm)

There were a lot of other links, too; you might try searching for "CO2 chamber for rats" so you can learn more about the options and cost.

Luis A. Reyes
03-10-13, 10:17 AM
Thanks for the link, i will check it out.

KORBIN5895
03-10-13, 10:33 AM
Breaking the neck is way more humane I think. I use a paint scraper and pin their head to the floor while holding the back legs or tail.

Luis A. Reyes
03-10-13, 10:43 AM
Breaking the neck is way more humane I think. I use a paint scraper and pin their head to the floor while holding the back legs or tail.
So you just pull the legs and hold the head down with the paint scraper so the neck breaks?

Lankyrob
03-10-13, 02:21 PM
If you have a decent grip you can do it with your hands, one hand goes round the head but specifically grips the base of the skull, the otheer goes around the shoulders. Now hold tight and pull your hamds apart quickly whilst also twisting them in opposite directions, you wont miss the "pop" as the spine separates and the rat will go totally limp.

Chu'Wuti
03-10-13, 02:25 PM
I figured KORBIN5895 and Lankyrob would speak up here! Now, Luis, you have a couple of ideas for humane killing, and one of them is really inexpensive!

KORBIN5895
03-10-13, 03:26 PM
If you have a decent grip you can do it with your hands, one hand goes round the head but specifically grips the base of the skull, the otheer goes around the shoulders. Now hold tight and pull your hamds apart quickly whilst also twisting them in opposite directions, you wont miss the "pop" as the spine separates and the rat will go totally limp.

I was getting bit too often to be grabbing them around the neck. Also the more you kill at once the more nervous the last to be killed get. I killed 50 XL rats once and by the time I hit the last ten ( less than 5 minutes ) they were hopping try to escape the garbage can we were holding them in.

Luis A. Reyes
03-10-13, 04:54 PM
i guess i'll try both.

mykee
03-10-13, 05:45 PM
Sandy, that site is awesome, I use it for reference all the time, but I hear the owner is a dikhole.

DeadlyDesires
03-10-13, 07:34 PM
this is the most gruesome thread there is here i've seen lol... its so sad.. my face while reading is just priceless... i feel so sorry for the rats... i wont even hold mine because ill feel even worse when it comes time for feeding..

lady_bug87
03-10-13, 08:04 PM
We have thread on this somewhere with video and everything

DeadlyDesires
03-10-13, 08:36 PM
We have thread on this somewhere with video and everything

awww ... so sad :( ... im sure there is a rodent forum somewhere just talking mad crap about people like us who feed their pets to our pet lol

Corey209
03-10-13, 08:51 PM
You can make CO2 with two household items that are fairly cheap, can't remember what the combo was though. I think it may be baking soda and vinegar or sugar yeast and water.

Chu'Wuti
03-10-13, 09:07 PM
Sandy, that site is awesome, I use it for reference all the time, but I hear the owner is a dikhole.

Yeah, I've heard that some people think so, but you know how it is, Mykee--you can't please all the people all the time. I don't think that about you, and I don't really care what other people think that much. Especially when they've decided someone is a dikhole because that person told them how it really is . . . some people really need a dose of reality!!

Hugs!

Chu'Wuti
03-10-13, 10:57 PM
Meh, wasn't as careful as I intended to be . . . sorry . . .

the real d**holes are the people who come here at the last minute with nearly dead animals and then get mad because we tell them they waited too long/didn't have proper husbandry/____________________ and the animal could have been saved if they'd only done their research and started treating the poor animal right a long time ago!

and those are the ones who get mad at being told the truth . . .

*sigh*

My DH notes that neither of us suffers fools gladly. :no:

Corey209
03-10-13, 11:48 PM
Meh, wasn't as careful as I intended to be . . . sorry . . .

the real d**holes are the people who come here at the last minute with nearly dead animals and then get mad because we tell them they waited too long/didn't have proper husbandry/____________________ and the animal could have been saved if they'd only done their research and started treating the poor animal right a long time ago!

and those are the ones who get mad at being told the truth . . .

*sigh*

My DH notes that neither of us suffers fools gladly. :no:


I don't understand how people end up killing their captive bred animals, they must live in their bed or something. Snakes are extremely hardy, most lizards on the other hand are pretty easy to mess up on but pretty easy to take care of.

Chu'Wuti
03-10-13, 11:56 PM
Corey, if you'd seen the condition of an albino bull snake when I got it two months ago, or the condition of a veiled chameleon I took in just a few weeks ago--and couldn't save--you'd know what I mean.

I've seen even some snakes in terrible condition; makes my stomach clench just to think about it. I think some people think "hardy" means they don't need to worry about heat/light/water/food . . . arrrrghghggh.

At least the albino has gained weight since I got him; he's gone from looking like a dried out wishbone to developing muscles along his spine. Wish I could have saved the cham, though. *sigh*

Corey209
03-11-13, 12:03 AM
With snakes though.. you can give the majority half *** husbandry and they will live for years. They won't thrive but they will live. If the owner's are so lazy they can't take care of something as easy as a bull snake I couldn't imagine how they take care of themselves.

poison123
03-11-13, 12:22 AM
With snakes though.. you can give the majority half *** husbandry and they will live for years. They won't thrive but they will live. If the owner's are so lazy they can't take care of something as easy as a bull snake I couldn't imagine how they take care of themselves.

Mistakes happen. I've had dead cbb snakes in my past but I learn from them.