View Full Version : here they are, my new beardies :)
ilovemypets1988
03-09-13, 08:38 AM
as long await and discussed, heres a quick couple of pics of the beardies that i got today (abit late but none the less)
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Daniel_Barton/my%20new%20beardies/DSCF0454.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Daniel_Barton/my%20new%20beardies/DSCF0453.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Daniel_Barton/my%20new%20beardies/DSCF0452.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Daniel_Barton/my%20new%20beardies/DSCF0451.jpg
hope you all enjoy :)
rmfsnakes32
03-09-13, 10:56 AM
Very cute. Did they arrive healthy?
:D they are all awesome! I got a new beardie the other day too and i already love her hah. Congrats on the new pickup though!
ilovemypets1988
03-09-13, 11:08 AM
There very healthy and have already eatten
reptimama
03-09-13, 11:18 AM
Very nice!
ilovemypets1988
03-09-13, 01:13 PM
yh they are lovelly, they love coming out and have settled in quite nicely, well the adults have, the babies only had a tiny amount of handling before being put into her enclosure thats bare bottomed atm otherwise he/shes been left alone. but the 2 adults have been out for alil explore and keeps scratching at the glass to come out, so ive left the doors open (1 at a time) for half an hour and left them explore and even had a handle of each. they aint showing any signs of stress at all so its all good :D
beardeds4life
03-09-13, 02:35 PM
That baby does not look healthy. I would get it to a vet ASAP based on the pictures in the other thread.
lady_bug87
03-09-13, 02:41 PM
That baby does not look healthy. I would get it to a vet ASAP based on the pictures in the other thread.
I agree. It looks as though the tail is damaged and the colour of it is a little disturbing from the picture...
It will probably lose the tip a vet visit is definitely a good idea.
ilovemypets1988
03-09-13, 03:09 PM
Yh I've been looking for vets online and will be making phone calls tomorrow about the tail
ilovemypets1988
03-09-13, 04:13 PM
Would u like me to get a better picture of the baby and it's tail guys and gals
lady_bug87
03-09-13, 07:01 PM
Would u like me to get a better picture of the baby and it's tail guys and gals
Sure
Im on my smart phone so I can kinda zoom in... if you want to post another picture that wouldn't hurt. I would also be in contact with the seller
ilovemypets1988
03-10-13, 04:04 AM
ok, ill get a better pic of the tail later on, he/she is still abit skittish in the morning so it seems, better to try puting him/her in a some tub with some kitchen roll in it, which is what ill do later :)
ilovemypets1988
03-10-13, 05:29 AM
here we are, some more pics, also can you help me identify if the adults are definitely males, i took pics of between there legs to help with that:
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Daniel_Barton/my%20new%20beardies/DSCF0455.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Daniel_Barton/my%20new%20beardies/DSCF0456.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Daniel_Barton/my%20new%20beardies/DSCF0457.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Daniel_Barton/my%20new%20beardies/DSCF0458.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Daniel_Barton/my%20new%20beardies/DSCF0460.jpg
thanx all
Corey209
03-10-13, 06:16 AM
Is that bone on the tip of the tail?
ilovemypets1988
03-10-13, 06:19 AM
ive got absolutely no idea, but i can tell you that its jet black
Corey209
03-10-13, 06:28 AM
ive got absolutely no idea, but i can tell you that its jet black
In my opinion which means nothing it doesn't look like any flesh is surrounding it which means it will most likely dry out and fall off. I would do a betadine soak to prevent infection but I'd make sure to see a vet first if you can find one locally.
Found someone with a similar problem
Bearded Dragon . org • View topic - Tail rot or just a nip (http://www.beardeddragon.org/bjive/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=157810)
They said like I did that it will fall off, just make sure the black doesn't spread.
lady_bug87
03-10-13, 07:10 AM
In terms of the sexing. Take the adults in your hand belly down tail facing you. Gently lift the tail so it curves upward. While doing that take a look behind the vent. If you see 2 bulges on either side with a dip in the middle chances are, its a male. A singular bump says female.
About the baby: regardless if you choose to soak it, it needs to go to a vet. If the tail consists of dead necrotic flesh it could spread regardless of it falling off or not.
Necrotic appendages must be removed further up than just the infected area to decrease the chances of it spreading
ilovemypets1988
03-10-13, 07:21 AM
unfortunately as i found out as i had a few frustrating phone calls, no vets are open today and as such im gunna have to call the vets tomorrow and book an emergency appointment, ive also asked my local rep center if i can take the baby upto them as they have someone who works part time at the center and at a vet practice so i will get 2 opinions in 1 hopefully.
ilovemypets1988
03-10-13, 08:16 AM
im also thinking of using eco earth as a substrate for the adults and getting some live plants to grow in there so they can have fresh veg when they want it, has anyone got any ideas as to what i can use, im thinking of turtle food or similar seeds to plant in there.
Corey209
03-10-13, 08:27 AM
im also thinking of using eco earth as a substrate for the adults and getting some live plants to grow in there so they can have fresh veg when they want it, has anyone got any ideas as to what i can use, im thinking of turtle food or similar seeds to plant in there.
I read somewhere about not using substrate with beardies but I can't remember the reason why, maybe they were full of crap I don't know.
lady_bug87
03-10-13, 08:43 AM
I read somewhere about not using substrate with beardies but I can't remember the reason why, maybe they were full of crap I don't know.
That's the impaction argument. As long as husbandry and diet is OK then Eco earth is fine. I had mine on sand as a baby with no issues. Right now he's on soil
ilovemypets1988
03-10-13, 03:42 PM
well for now as im worried about the baby beardie, ive got it (i would say him or her but dont know the sex yet) in a 30cm x 30cm x 45cm (W x D x H) exo terra, seeing that shes only 4 inches, this will probably be her home for a month or so, the exo terra is then placed next to my computer screen on the comp desk so i have her insight.
i know the size isnt really that perfect for a baby beardie to be in, but im just thinking of whats best for it with the damaged tail the way it is, i also know that im probably gunna be slaughtered by alot of you out there with the enclosure size.
Valvaren
03-10-13, 05:28 PM
I'm more upset that he sold you such a small sick Dragon, even the adult don't look like what was show in the early photos
ilovemypets1988
03-10-13, 06:10 PM
Being born 12th Jan is 4 inches the right size at that age as I'm sure it's small for it's age and I do supply heat within the enclosure on a 12 hour cycle (lights of during the night), but uvb bulb bloody blew earlier so got another on order, arriving Tuesday at the latest.
Being born 12th Jan is 4 inches the right size at that age as I'm sure it's small for it's age and I do supply heat within the enclosure on a 12 hour cycle (lights of during the night), but uvb bulb bloody blew earlier so got another on order, arriving Tuesday at the latest.
How are you getting the correct temperatures in that sized cage? To get a 100 to 110 degree basking spot in that cage, the cool side is going to be well into the high 90s, which is just way too hot, or if you get the cooler temperatures it needs to thermoregulate, you wont be able to provide an adequate basking spot for it.
ilovemypets1988
03-11-13, 06:45 PM
unfortunately i cant get the basking temp that high without supplying an adequate cool end so what ive done is supplied a basking temp of between 95 and 100 and then i use an exo terra hide which allows the temp to drop to 80-85 inside it during the day and during the night, temps stay between 70 and 80 on the following cycle: lights on between 9 and 10am and lights off between 8 and 10pm
ilovemypets1988
03-12-13, 08:24 AM
although id admit, since the baby has been in the exo terra, he/she seems to be alot happier as she/he is happily moving around and has also started eating some meal worms but no crickets just yet, ill keep you all posted
ilovemypets1988
03-12-13, 08:50 AM
heres 2 pics of the exo terra and the little 1 in it:
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Daniel_Barton/my%20new%20beardies/DSCF0462.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Daniel_Barton/my%20new%20beardies/DSCF0463.jpg
ill try to get a clearer pic of the baby as soon as he/she plays ball and lets me lol
ilovemypets1988
03-12-13, 10:56 AM
finally got 1 of the baby on 1 of her logs:
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k514/Daniel_Barton/my%20new%20beardies/DSCF0465.jpg
beardeds4life
03-13-13, 03:39 PM
That baby is small for it's age and skinny. I would say no to live plants just because plants need to stay fairly moist. Especially things that would be healthy for a beardie. This would raise the humidity too high. Then you could have a respiratory infection on your hands and I do not think you need that. If it was an outside enclosure I would say the live plants would be fine, I have live plants in my outdoor enclosure, but it that small glass tank you will just have humidity problems.
Also that water bowl is huge. It is way too big. That is bad because that will raise the humidity too. And it is just not needed.
ilovemypets1988
03-13-13, 03:53 PM
The water bowl is a small exo terra and if I'm honest, I never fully fill it only half fill it. Now you can see why it's in such a small tank and why I need to keep my eye on it, but I do try to give her what I can with temps and setup, she's only eating meal worms atm and won't take any crickets, intact she seems scared of them so I offer her loads of mealworms and she takes about 5 at a time and twice a day.
That baby is small for it's age and skinny. I would say no to live plants just because plants need to stay fairly moist. Especially things that would be healthy for a beardie. This would raise the humidity too high. Then you could have a respiratory infection on your hands and I do not think you need that. If it was an outside enclosure I would say the live plants would be fine, I have live plants in my outdoor enclosure, but it that small glass tank you will just have humidity problems.
Also that water bowl is huge. It is way too big. That is bad because that will raise the humidity too. And it is just not needed.
Im curious as to why people say this. Let me be clear in saying that there could likely be something else associated with high humidity, like poor ventilation, that could be the cause. However, humidity itself doesnt cause RI any more than cold weather causes the flu. These animals come from Australia, where there is quite a lot of humidity at certain times of the year. I have a feeling the whole high humidity/RI thing may be a result of poor husbandry practices just like the impaction issues that were so common in the past. Has anyone on this forum ever actually had an RI develop in their bearded dragon?
Im curious as to why people say this. Let me be clear in saying that there could likely be something else associated with high humidity, like poor ventilation, that could be the cause. However, humidity itself doesnt cause RI any more than cold weather causes the flu. These animals come from Australia, where there is quite a lot of humidity at certain times of the year. I have a feeling the whole high humidity/RI thing may be a result of poor husbandry practices just like the impaction issues that were so common in the past. Has anyone on this forum ever actually had an RI develop in their bearded dragon?
No Jarich, I have never had a ri in my berdies and have always wondered the same thing. I constantly hear people say dont put in a water bowl, it will raise humidity but then turn around and preach bathing their dragons at least once a week. I agree it would be along the lines of the impaction argument. People are very quick to pin point one thing that will cause problems, unfortunatly not too often will they pin pint that their husbandry is incorrect.
From babies I have had my beardies on soil/sand mix...never an issue with impaction
I do not bath my dragons...never an issue with dehydration
I leave big bowls of water in their enclsures...never had an ri or humididty issues.
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