PDA

View Full Version : What can i put in here?

Zosime
03-08-13, 07:53 PM
What can i put in a 18x18x24 exoterra i have acouples extra tanks and im trying to fill one of the cages after i build my beardies enclosures. Do you guys have any suggestions? I want a lizard the most but im willing to get a snake too if i can care for it the enclosure.
Corey209
03-08-13, 07:56 PM
Amazon tree boa, the majority of geckos, plenty of frogs or toads
Gravelanche
03-08-13, 11:45 PM
also useful for YOUNG snakes of other breeds, im putting a juvenile brazillian rainbow boa in one that size, after she grows a bit i will move her up to something else.

also look up rough green snakes, i think they are really neat
Bloedig
03-08-13, 11:46 PM
Male Kenyan Sand Boa
Corey209
03-09-13, 12:57 AM
also useful for YOUNG snakes of other breeds, im putting a juvenile brazillian rainbow boa in one that size, after she grows a bit i will move her up to something else.

also look up rough green snakes, i think they are really neat

I doubt he's looking to upgrade and you can put a young snake in anything.

Rough greens are cool though, that could hold a pair.
lady_bug87
03-09-13, 06:22 AM
I've had my GTP in one of those since she came to me a year ago
She has plenty of room.
Gravelanche
03-09-13, 09:20 AM
I've had my GTP in one of those since she came to me a year ago
She has plenty of room.

Ugh on one hand I really want a gtp but I'm nervous about them for some reason lol
lady_bug87
03-09-13, 09:28 AM
Nothing to be nervous about. So long as you feed them appropriately, and maintain proper husbandry they are a wonderful species to keep
Gravelanche
03-09-13, 09:49 AM
i think its snakebytes TV :P they always go to GTP's when they want chewy to get bit. im sure once i actually hold one i will never want to put it down. curious though, seen a lot of people with GTP, anyone with emerald tree boa's?
Bloedig
03-09-13, 09:56 AM
I have the same "fears and anxiety" about the GTP's. Seems like almost every video I see of them they are striking someone. lol
Zosime
03-09-13, 10:21 AM
I've had my GTP in one of those since she came to me a year ago
She has plenty of room.
Hm i think i might want a GTP or a Rough green snake.. Im looking for a cool display animal but id like to be able to hold them too. Witch do you think is better?
lady_bug87
03-09-13, 10:35 AM
i think its snakebytes TV :P they always go to GTP's when they want chewy to get bit. im sure once i actually hold one i will never want to put it down. curious though, seen a lot of people with GTP, anyone with emerald tree boa's?

I have the same "fears and anxiety" about the GTP's. Seems like almost every video I see of them they are striking someone. lol

This is where individuality comes into play.
My GTP has never bitten, has struck a couple times closed mouth and we rarely handle her.

Hm i think i might want a GTP or a Rough green snake.. Im looking for a cool display animal but id like to be able to hold them too. Witch do you think is better?

I can't speak for the rough green snake but I happen to adore my green tree. Though as I said we don't handle her very much, when we do (usually for routine checks) she tolerates it beautifully.

Besides they are beautiful to look at
Gravelanche
03-09-13, 10:51 AM
GTP are beautiful snakes, but survey seems to say a bit more "look dont touch", the rough greens are smaller, but more active and docile, other upside is you could fit a pair in the tank, and they are only about $75 each.
Zosime
03-09-13, 11:15 AM
GTP are beautiful snakes, but survey seems to say a bit more "look dont touch", the rough greens are smaller, but more active and docile, other upside is you could fit a pair in the tank, and they are only about $75 each.
Yeah i think GTP's are out of my price range dont know if id be able to get one but is the scientific name for the rough green snake Opheodrys a. carinatus? I see them for sale on backwater reptiles and iv orderd a Neroda Sp. from them before and it came fine and healthy they did close the deli lid on his tail though :p
DragonsEye
03-09-13, 12:25 PM
My understanding from what I have heard and read (so, nope, no personal experience here) is that rough greens stress out easily and should not be handled except when necessary. Also, I have yet to find anyone who has had any luck in keeping them long term.
StudentoReptile
03-09-13, 12:39 PM
Questions for the OP to ask themselves are:

1.) Is handling an important factor?

2.) what is easiest in terms of feeding? rodents, insects or veggies?

3.) Price range
---
The answers to those questions will help you narrow your options quite a bit.
Zosime
03-09-13, 12:50 PM
Questions for the OP to ask themselves are:

1.) Is handling an important factor?

2.) what is easiest in terms of feeding? rodents, insects or veggies?

3.) Price range
---
The answers to those questions will help you narrow your options quite a bit.
I want to be able to hold it acouple times a week
I get all the feeders you listed already so there all easy i guess
i dont want to spend over 130
StudentoReptile
03-09-13, 01:31 PM
What appeals more to you: snakes or lizards?
Zosime
03-09-13, 02:08 PM
What appeals more to you: snakes or lizards?
I like Lizards more
StudentoReptile
03-09-13, 03:11 PM
Here are my suggestions:
a pair of crested geckos
a single leopard gecko
a single African fat-tail gecko
a pair/trio of panther (i.e. Pictus) geckos
a single fire skink
a single Mt horned dragon
Zosime
03-09-13, 03:59 PM
Here are my suggestions:
a pair of crested geckos
a single leopard gecko
a single African fat-tail gecko
a pair/trio of panther (i.e. Pictus) geckos
a single fire skink
a single Mt horned dragon
I like Mt horned dragons, and crested geckos.. Ill have to decide. do you know what both of their care is like?
Gravelanche
03-09-13, 04:07 PM
cresteds are great, they dont usually need excess heat, they are happy between70-80 during the day and down into the mid 60's at night, they get stressed over 85.

the tank needs lots of fake or real plants, mine spends most of his time hiding in his vines. they primarily eat a powdered "gecko diet" that you mix with water and it gets suplemented with the odd cricket for extra protein. they are a bit skiddish but can become more tame with handling. they get misted once or twice a day as well
lady_bug87
03-09-13, 07:05 PM
See I like planted tanks or a combination of planted and fake. This size tank plants well you can get a bunch of stuff in there
Corey209
03-09-13, 07:12 PM
GTP's are not "look and don't touch".. Biak's are known to have bad attitudes but a lot of the other localities can be handled without them even thinking of striking.
StudentoReptile
03-10-13, 07:43 AM
In terms of hardiness, availability and variety of colors/pattern, I would opt for the crested geckos. Plus, you have the advantage of an all-commercial, no-live diet.
Lankyrob
03-10-13, 09:02 AM
GTP's are not "look and don't touch".. Biak's are known to have bad attitudes but a lot of the other localities can be handled without them even thinking of striking.

Its not so much the "attitude" of gtps that mean they are do not touch but the very real risk of damage to their tail/spine, especially when they are small.
Zosime
03-10-13, 10:58 AM
In terms of hardiness, availability and variety of colors/pattern, I would opt for the crested geckos. Plus, you have the advantage of an all-commercial, no-live diet.
But i breed crickets and roaches will i only have to feed that with crested geckos because that repashy is to expensive to buy every week
StudentoReptile
03-10-13, 11:36 AM
no, you can feed them insects and just supplement with the repashy
Zosime
03-10-13, 11:53 AM
no, you can feed them insects and just supplement with the repashy
alright ,
StudentoReptile
03-10-13, 12:00 PM
And I forgot about the cresties cousins, gargoyle geckos, who happen to like more insects in their diet anyway. Might want to look into those as well.
Zosime
03-10-13, 12:56 PM
And I forgot about the cresties cousins, gargoyle geckos, who happen to like more insects in their diet anyway. Might want to look into those as well.
Yeah ill check them out
Chu'Wuti
03-10-13, 01:17 PM
I agree that rough green snakes are very cool. I would describe them as shy; as an arboreal, nonaggressive species, they need plenty of good hiding places in bushes and not much handling. I think most people who try to keep them long-term have been inadequately prepared for their husbandry needs, especially in terms of environment and diet. That's my speculation, anyway; I have only dealt with WC that I kept for short periods for observation, then released back into the wild.
StudentoReptile
03-10-13, 04:34 PM
The thing with rough greens is: treat them like an anole or a chameleon (naturalistic set-up with lots of foliage). Don't treat them like the typical snake (wood chips, hide box, water bowl).
Gungirl
03-12-13, 08:17 AM
I have to add a vote for Gargoyle gecko.. I just got 2 a little while back and I love my pair.

Here is my Male:
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/Gargs/garg4.jpg

Here is my female:
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/Gargs/garg.jpg
Zosime
03-12-13, 12:22 PM
I have to add a vote for Gargoyle gecko.. I just got 2 a little while back and I love my pair.

Here is my Male:
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/Gargs/garg4.jpg

Here is my female:
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee454/KAMacie/Gargs/garg.jpg
:D they look really cool! I think i might have to pick up one or two of the little guys some time