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Heres a video of me handling our new White Lipped Python :)
marvelfreak
02-23-13, 10:39 AM
Very cool. I do have a couple tips to hopefully make handling easier.
When you picked her up with the hook let her keep her tail wrapped around it. I found mine feels more secure and won't poop or musk if i leave him on the hook. I just let him climb off of it on his own. Mine boy freaks if i touch him with my hand, but if i let him climb onto it by himself he just fine.
I been lucky on the getting tag, mine only close mouth strikes. Or as i call it head butts.
Yeah what you saw on the video was a closed mouth strike, its so fast though it freak us out. I also want him to get used to being held, getting grabed and so on. I rather get bit now than when hes older. How old is yours?
marvelfreak
02-23-13, 01:33 PM
Mine is a yearling. I never realized how slow they grow. My buddy had got him last summer as a baby and got tired of him always musking him. So i made a trade with him. I haven't been musked once. I don't handle him as often and when i do make everyone stay back. This seem to help keep him from getting stress out as easy. Which means he letting me handle him for longer period at a time.
hahahaha! Dude he musked me really bad the one time. It got all over my jacket, pants, and carpet. I could only laugh though :)
Aaron_S
02-23-13, 03:45 PM
Yeah what you saw on the video was a closed mouth strike, its so fast though it freak us out. I also want him to get used to being held, getting grabed and so on. I rather get bit now than when hes older. How old is yours?
A lot of white lips don't become accustomed to that type of handling. You should think of a carpet python if that's your choice. Similar snakes.
If you want to stay with the liasis family then a macklot's would be my choice. Tend to be more calm.
A lot of white lips don't become accustomed to that type of handling. You should think of a carpet python if that's your choice. Similar snakes.
If you want to stay with the liasis family then a macklot's would be my choice. Tend to be more calm.
Im keeping him wether he gets tamer or not, if he doesnt then I wont handle him when he gets older. When I got my first GTP I never thought I would be "cuddling" with her, I wanted her as a display animal.
I am very interested in getting a carpet. I used to have a diamont x jungle but it was a baby and I had to get rid of him within months of owning him (truly a disapointment). Now I have my eye on a Jaguar Carpet, any advise on carpets?
marvelfreak
02-23-13, 04:30 PM
Im keeping him wether he gets tamer or not, if he doesnt then I wont handle him when he gets older. When I got my first GTP I never thought I would be "cuddling" with her, I wanted her as a display animal.
I am very interested in getting a carpet. I used to have a diamont x jungle but it was a baby and I had to get rid of him within months of owning him (truly a disapointment). Now I have my eye on a Jaguar Carpet, any advise on carpets?
I tip my hat to you good sir. It's so nice to see someone who understands some snake are just better display animals. You wouldn't believe how many people i seen come on here and be look i just got a anaconda. Then 6 months to a year later you know longer see them post pictures because they have gotten rid of it because they couldn't handle them. It's seem to be the same with WLP. People realize they don't take to handling very good so they get rid of them.
Thanks man, that means a lot. Like ive said in my videos, I respect my snakes and I treat them as if its a privilege for them to allow me to hold them. Everytime I put one back, I say, "thanks for letting me hold you and thank you for not bitting me" :) lol
This is my 9th snake and its the first one Ive bought a snake hook for... I knew what I was getting into :)
P.S. I cant wait to own a Green Anaconda. I actually drove 45 min to buy one but when I arrived it didnt look too healthy (it had two raised and very swollen scales near the necK). So I decided to hold off.
Lankyrob
02-23-13, 06:27 PM
Thanks man, that means a lot. Like ive said in my videos, I respect my snakes and I treat them as if its a privilege for them to allow me to hold them. Everytime I put one back, I say, "thanks for letting me hold you and thank you for not bitting me" :) lol
This is my 9th snake and its the first one Ive bought a snake hook for... I knew what I was getting into :)
P.S. I cant wait to own a Green Anaconda. I actually drove 45 min to buy one but when I arrived it didnt look too healthy (it had two raised and very swollen scales near the necK). So I decided to hold off.
I love your attitude :)
Aaron_S
02-23-13, 08:52 PM
Thanks man, that means a lot. Like ive said in my videos, I respect my snakes and I treat them as if its a privilege for them to allow me to hold them. Everytime I put one back, I say, "thanks for letting me hold you and thank you for not bitting me" :) lol
This is my 9th snake and its the first one Ive bought a snake hook for... I knew what I was getting into :)
P.S. I cant wait to own a Green Anaconda. I actually drove 45 min to buy one but when I arrived it didnt look too healthy (it had two raised and very swollen scales near the necK). So I decided to hold off.
Two things.
1. You don't need a hook. You're too slow. Once you reveal her grab her before she notices anything and remove her. Won't bite you anymore than she did in the video.
2. If it's a privilege that they allow YOU to hold them why are you forcing this one? That's no longer a privilege but considering it a must or a right.
Corey209
02-23-13, 09:35 PM
Thanks man, that means a lot. Like ive said in my videos, I respect my snakes and I treat them as if its a privilege for them to allow me to hold them. Everytime I put one back, I say, "thanks for letting me hold you and thank you for not bitting me" :) lol
This is my 9th snake and its the first one Ive bought a snake hook for... I knew what I was getting into :)
P.S. I cant wait to own a Green Anaconda. I actually drove 45 min to buy one but when I arrived it didnt look too healthy (it had two raised and very swollen scales near the necK). So I decided to hold off.
Green annies are awesome, the one I watched for a few months was extremely docile. Didn't like being taken out of the water though.
Green annies are awesome, the one I watched for a few months was extremely docile. Didn't like being taken out of the water though.
arent they in feeding mode when they hang out in the water?
two things.
1. You don't need a hook. You're too slow. Once you reveal her grab her before she notices anything and remove her. Won't bite you anymore than she did in the video.
2. If it's a privilege that they allow you to hold them why are you forcing this one? That's no longer a privilege but considering it a must or a right.
roger that sir!
Corey209
02-23-13, 11:27 PM
arent they in feeding mode when they hang out in the water?
No idea, I know that he was always fed in the water and I'd let him soak in the bath for 30 minutes a day. Whenever I picked him up out of the bath he would puff up and give a slight hiss so that is a possibility but I was never bitten.
So I tried feeding the WLP yesterday and she struck at the mouse over and over even coiling and releasing it, but not eating it. The last time it coiled on the mouse, it didnt release so obviously the mouse died but she didnt eat it. So I left the mouse in her cage overnight and this morning the mouse is still there. Ive only had her since Monday and I didnt find out when they fed her last... Im not too worried but I wanted to see if any of WLP owner ever have problems feeding.
Mark Taylor
02-24-13, 11:35 AM
I don't have a wlp but inop i would not feed live ft is just as good and safer for the snake.
Just my opinion there are some that live feed.
As for feeding again give it 5/7 days then try again but is probably just a little stressed from the move and the handling.
Also what about quarantine I see over tanks below..
I don't have a wlp but inop i would not feed live ft is just as good and safer for the snake.
Just my opinion there are some that live feed.
As for feeding again give it 5/7 days then try again but is probably just a little stressed from the move and the handling.
Also what about quarantine I see over tanks below..
you got me there, I didn't even think about that. I just brought her home and set her up.
Mark Taylor
02-24-13, 11:48 AM
Quarantine is the most important thing to remember when you bring a snake home if you have other snakes I really hope that everything is going to be OK otherwise you might pay dearly.
Aaron_S
02-24-13, 12:16 PM
So I tried feeding the WLP yesterday and she struck at the mouse over and over even coiling and releasing it, but not eating it. The last time it coiled on the mouse, it didnt release so obviously the mouse died but she didnt eat it. So I left the mouse in her cage overnight and this morning the mouse is still there. Ive only had her since Monday and I didnt find out when they fed her last... Im not too worried but I wanted to see if any of WLP owner ever have problems feeding.
I kind of had respect for you.
Now you've lost it. Purely based on the fact you haven't gotten this snake to eat yet and you've been messing around with handling.
I thought you actually had this animal for awhile before making that video. Selfish keepers.
marvelfreak
02-24-13, 01:06 PM
On the feeding i would give it a week with no handling. Let her settle in then try again. As for striking, killing and not eat my use to do it about every other time i fed. So i started just feeding every two weeks and he eats every time. Unless in shed.
Dearest Aaron, as your first statement rips through my heart and shatters my emotions, I continue to breath and live happily :)
Even though I know your personal feeling toward me should be something meaningful, it really doesn't affect me. Call me cold blooded - I might need that temp regulator fixed or something ;)
On the other -more valuable- hand, Mark. I truly appreciate your advice, I will follow it.
I dont believe in setting all these strict procedures of not handling before it feeds deal... Will my snake die? Nope.
Is it going to eat? yes, probably next week.
Will it be ok after all? absolutely.
I am not by any means an "expert" (like probably confident and assertive Aaron is... :/), but I am not new to keeping snakes, and in my past experiences the problems that arise, quickly get handled and fixed. Whatever the case may be of my selfishness, I ultimately care for these animals A LOT.
But since I am a gentleman, here goes this:
Aaron, Thank you for your kind words, I assure you they will be ignored in the order it was received. Have a beautiful rest of your day/night.
Mark, thanks for the positive criticism. I will absolutely consider your advise. Thank you.
On the feeding i would give it a week with no handling. Let her settle in then try again. As for striking, killing and not eat my use to do it about every other time i fed. So i started just feeding every two weeks and he eats every time. Unless in shed.
Sweet! this is what I plan to do actually. Im not going to touch her for a week - except for temp readings (her enclosure is new, and the weather is changing here in ridiculous ways). And I will try again next week.
As I understand, WLPs are very finicky. So my question is, do you feed your in its enclosure?
Im used to removing all my animals for feeding.
marvelfreak
02-24-13, 01:26 PM
As I understand, WLPs are very finicky. So my question is, do you feed your in its enclosure?
Im used to removing all my animals for feeding.
The guy who use to have him use to feed in a different container. Most the time he wouldn't eat. I have always fed in the cage and he seems to do a lot better with it. I believe it makes it a lot more stress free for him so he eat better. My guy if anything stress him before feeding he won't eat. Plus he very finicky i am still working on trying to get him to take a F/T.
The guy who use to have him use to feed in a different container. Most the time he wouldn't eat. I have always fed in the cage and he seems to do a lot better with it. I believe it makes it a lot more stress free for him so he eat better. My guy if anything stress him before feeding he won't eat. Plus he very finicky i am still working on trying to get him to take a F/T.
Sorry, more questions. Do you do live or pre killed?
marvelfreak
02-24-13, 01:38 PM
Sorry, more questions. Do you do live or pre killed?
No problem. I do live, i have try pre killed but has soon as it quit twitching he would have nothing to do with it.
No problem. I do live, i have try pre killed but has soon as it quit twitching he would have nothing to do with it.
cool thanks
Mark Taylor
02-24-13, 02:17 PM
As much as I appreciate that you will take my advise and consider it I do think you are making a mistake in throwing away aaron s criticism of they way you do things.
I would not feed live food as it could damage your snake ft is much safer imo.
Like I said already its not eating because its stressed and has no routine if you choose live over ft when you want to switch to ft it will take more time.
Aaron_S
02-24-13, 02:22 PM
Sweet! this is what I plan to do actually. Im not going to touch her for a week - except for temp readings (her enclosure is new, and the weather is changing here in ridiculous ways). And I will try again next week.
As I understand, WLPs are very finicky. So my question is, do you feed your in its enclosure?
Im used to removing all my animals for feeding.
You're cute.
Don't say in one post that you know snakes then in the next show your true noobiness.
In one you try to come off like everything is hunky dory. In the next you admit to this species being finicky and that any handling has been a mistake to undertake at this time. You fix this by saying you'll stop handling now, after you've encountered the problem. I guess preventive care is a lost art.
Is it so hard to just do the right thing from the start? Oh I guess not because you're not "new".
Anyway, feed in the enclosure. It won't hurt your snake. I'd like to see you take the 6 foot white lip out for feeding when it's older.
Also, your snake is ticked off by the prey item. That's why it's striking and not doing anything else. You've been pissing it off by bothering it so much so it just wants to be left alone.
Thanks Ill tell my girl you think I'm cute.... Noobiness? hehe, you're a child.
Check this out guy. I'll post more videos and comments. If you have constructive criticism, it is welcomed. If not, it is also welcomed. Its entertaining. Im sure you're the toughest Canadian around, but I don't want to bicker with you, I might drown in my sea of wrong and sorrow.
Anyways, Im not holding her for a week due to the fact that she's not eating. The last two lines you finger smacked in actually offer some advice. Keep it coming, its welcomed. I never said you were wrong, you are right and Im swimming in a sea of wrong.
Share your knowledge not your ****** attitude. I can sit here all day and write you, or I can go ride my Ducati I southern California weather. I think ill go with B.
Again, have a wonderful day full of awesomeness :) BYE BYE!
As much as I appreciate that you will take my advise and consider it I do think you are making a mistake in throwing away aaron s criticism of they way you do things.
I would not feed live food as it could damage your snake ft is much safer imo.
Like I said already its not eating because its stressed and has no routine if you choose live over ft when you want to switch to ft it will take more time.
Do you think I should start right off with F/T?
My other animals eat both...
Aaron_S
02-24-13, 02:54 PM
Thanks Ill tell my girl you think I'm cute.... Noobiness? hehe, you're a child.
Check this out guy. I'll post more videos and comments. If you have constructive criticism, it is welcomed. If not, it is also welcomed. Its entertaining. Im sure you're the toughest Canadian around, but I don't want to bicker with you, I might drown in my sea of wrong and sorrow.
Anyways, Im not holding her for a week due to the fact that she's not eating. The last two lines you finger smacked in actually offer some advice. Keep it coming, its welcomed. I never said you were wrong, you are right and Im swimming in a sea of wrong.
Share your knowledge not your ****** attitude. I can sit here all day and write you, or I can go ride my Ducati I southern California weather. I think ill go with B.
Again, have a wonderful day full of awesomeness :) BYE BYE!
Love when people try to take the high road but throw in their "cool ride". A+ to you.
Enjoy the weather. I'm just about to suit up and take my sled dogs for a run.
Mark Taylor
02-24-13, 02:58 PM
Imop yes please.
Corey209
02-24-13, 02:59 PM
Do you think I should start right off with F/T?
My other animals eat both...
Live is easier to get for me so I feed live but it's all about the person. If you're going to feed live accept the risks your animal could get hurt, but never leave the mouse inside the cage even if its for a few minutes. I personally hold the mouse/rat by the hand to feed or tongs depending which animal.
Love when people try to take the high road but throw in their "cool ride". A+ to you.
Enjoy the weather. I'm just about to suit up and take my sled dogs for a run.
Dude! If you weren't such a doucher we could bond. Hahaha. Explain sled dogs, do you actually sled or is it just huskies?
I think with time and patience we can become pretty much the best friends in the world. taking the high road has to be the best option when dealing with online forums, don't you think "veteran, expert, senior member, presidents club, etc,etc"?
KORBIN5895
02-24-13, 07:13 PM
Sweet! this is what I plan to do actually. Im not going to touch her for a week - except for temp readings (her enclosure is new, and the weather is changing here in ridiculous ways). And I will try again next week.
As I understand, WLPs are very finicky. So my question is, do you feed your in its enclosure?
Im used to removing all my animals for feeding.
I'm not sure how long you've been doing this nor does it matter but I think you should feed all of your snakes in their enclosures. I have done both and find in tank feedings way better.
Also Aaron's nickname is Gary Gay for a reason.
I'm not sure how long you've been doing this nor does it matter but I think you should feed all of your snakes in their enclosures. I have done both and find in tank feedings way better.
Also Aaron's nickname is Gary Gay for a reason.
Hahaha!
I got my first ball python when I was 17, and I used to feed him in his cage. He would then almost always poke his head when I opened his tank and aggressively wait for his rat. This wasn't good for me wanting to handle him. So from then on I started feeding on separate containers. The only snake I own that I feed in its enclosure is the ATB. This is because I was having problems with him not eating and I fixed it by offering in his cage. I actually fed him in a box last night and he was great.
I am for sure going to try the in tank feeding.
This is one of my old Bps that I used to feed in its tank. This was his greeting, followed by strikes.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg258/andrescadena/IMG_1036.jpg
Aaron_S
02-24-13, 09:59 PM
Some snakes just do that. Take that new, shiny hook and tap its head. It should kick it out of feed mode.
I use the hook to remove them as well at this point and they can be handled then.
Think of it this way, if they believe the top opening means food, then anytime you open it they'll it's time for food in their food bin. No difference in the train of thought.
Some snakes just do that. Take that new, shiny hook and tap its head. It should kick it out of feed mode.
I use the hook to remove them as well at this point and they can be handled then.
Think of it this way, if they believe the top opening means food, then anytime you open it they'll it's time for food in their food bin. No difference in the train of thought.
Nice. That makes sense, thanks. I will definitely feed in tank.
Valvaren
02-24-13, 10:26 PM
I still cannot believe quarantine hasn't been addressed after the first reply, you even stated that animal is a pet store buy, surely someone as expert as you should know the risk of not quarantining a pet store animal from your 8 other snakes.
I still cannot believe quarantine hasn't been addressed after the first reply, you even stated that animal is a pet store buy, surely someone as expert as you should know the risk of not quarantining a pet store animal from your 8 other snakes.
Oh gosh...Address the issue then. is there anything else to say about it?
I did not quarantine the snake I brought home from the pet store. IT IS BAD. Anything else?
Yes, I handled it before it ate.
I feed my snakes live and outside their cages.
Hello, my name is andcad and Im a ****** keeper.
I sometimes take all 6 (not 8) of my snakes and put them in a jungle gym together. They love to socialize. Also, when one of them regurgitates food I dont let it go to waste. I usually feed it to my most expensive snake (who feeds twice the amount recommended already) so that it grows faster. I want it to be full size in 6 months.
KORBIN5895
02-25-13, 12:19 AM
Oh gosh...Address the issue then. is there anything else to say about it?
I did not quarantine the snake I brought home from the pet store. IT IS BAD. Anything else?
Yes, I handled it before it ate.
I feed my snakes live and outside their cages.
Hello, my name is andcad and Im a ****** keeper.
I sometimes take all 6 (not 8) of my snakes and put them in a jungle gym together. They love to socialize. Also, when one of them regurgitates food I dont let it go to waste. I usually feed it to my most expensive snake (who feeds twice the amount recommended already) so that it grows faster. I want it to be full size in 6 months.
Admission is the first step.
Aaron_S
02-25-13, 07:30 AM
Oh gosh...Address the issue then. is there anything else to say about it?
I did not quarantine the snake I brought home from the pet store. IT IS BAD. Anything else?
Yes, I handled it before it ate.
I feed my snakes live and outside their cages.
Hello, my name is andcad and Im a ****** keeper.
I sometimes take all 6 (not 8) of my snakes and put them in a jungle gym together. They love to socialize. Also, when one of them regurgitates food I dont let it go to waste. I usually feed it to my most expensive snake (who feeds twice the amount recommended already) so that it grows faster. I want it to be full size in 6 months.
Just so you know, he isn't wrong about quarantine.
In those close quarters and buying from a pet store I'd be weary of mites. Also, if one of your snakes got RI, as you've mentioned it's colder where you are right now, it could easily run through your collection.
I understand. Quarantine is a must, but I ****ed up set her up with all the others. I'll do that with the next one.
This has been a pretty hilarious thread actually. Well done andcad for putting up with the gauntlet of pettiness. You did it with style and a bit of flair. ;)
Beautiful white lipped, by the way. They are such cool pythons, even if they are a bit temperamental.
Aaron_S
02-25-13, 05:42 PM
This has been a pretty hilarious thread actually. Well done andcad for putting up with the gauntlet of pettiness. You did it with style and a bit of flair. ;)
Beautiful white lipped, by the way. They are such cool pythons, even if they are a bit temperamental.
Preventative and proper care now known as pettiness. Good to know!
Aaron_S
02-25-13, 05:43 PM
I understand. Quarantine is a must, but I ****ed up set her up with all the others. I'll do that with the next one.
Well you haven't cried about mites yet so I doubt it's an issue but you have great animals that you care about. I wouldn't want them all to be infected or anything because some a-hole lied to you when you buy your next. :)
Preventative and proper care now known as pettiness. Good to know!
Oh, poor Oscar! You know as well as I that I was speaking about your delivery, not your knowledge.
nick654377
02-25-13, 06:50 PM
i just did the whole not quarintine thing and my bcc had mites. so therefore after spending $50 on substrate for both encloseers i had to clean them out after 3 days and quarintine both my snakes and treat for mites. so now i am $50 out of bedding and basicly two "new" snakes. it sucks but it is a lesson learned. i will QT next time for sure!
Well you haven't cried about mites yet so I doubt it's an issue but you have great animals that you care about. I wouldn't want them all to be infected or anything because some a-hole lied to you when you buy your next. :)
For sure man, I have to be more mindful. Thanks everyone for their advice. I believe keeping snakes is a skill that needs to be honed. Some of you have some of us haven't, this is why I ask for helpful advice and criticism. I have kept snakes for a lot longer than many of the new buyers and such but I can assure you that I don't claim to be an expert. I don't think anyone is. We all make mistakes. I have learned this from my years in the military and now in business. There is ALWAYS something new to learn and mistakes are going to happen, this comes from complacency. I understand that my mistakes were foolish and I was SELFISH, I did the wrong thing even though I knew better. Im glad I can come one here and get my but kicked for being a dumb ***. I just ask that you show the same courtesy and respect I show you guys :)
Thanks for wasting your times reading my posts!
Tchambers
04-04-13, 10:27 PM
Great looking WLP! I never use a snake hook on my white lip (mainly because I don't own one) but since he's always in his hide I will lift the back of the hide enough to get my hand on the biggest part of his body that I can and I pull him and the hide up at the same time then just set the hide down once he's out. The trick with these guys once you get them out is to keep them moving. You'll figure out what works best for yours the more you work with her. Kudos for what you said earlier about keeping her no matter what. I totally agree. I love these guys.
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