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reptile man
01-30-13, 03:04 PM
do monitors need uv? iknow some people use it and others don't.

infernalis
01-30-13, 03:16 PM
do monitors need uv? iknow some people use it and others don't.

Not really, But I chose to use it.

dinosaurdammit
01-30-13, 03:25 PM
Not really, But I chose to use it.

do you use desert or the rainforest one?

For pajaaamas i use the rainforest one but use two tubes, i noticed an increase in appetite with it as opposed to the desert one.

varanus_mad
01-30-13, 03:25 PM
Use it on the offchance it does benefit them in some way.

reptile man
01-30-13, 03:33 PM
Use it on the offchance it does benefit them in some way.

desert or tropical

varanus_mad
01-30-13, 03:36 PM
desert or tropical

Whichevers got higher uv %.

reptile man
01-30-13, 03:41 PM
Whichevers got higher uv %.

is 15 watts ok?

BarelyBreathing
01-30-13, 04:04 PM
They don't NEED it, but I've found that their colors, appetite, and activity levels are all better. I use 5.0 on rain forest dwelling monitors and 10.0 on anything else.

infernalis
01-30-13, 04:07 PM
I am using a 5.0 repti sun 4 foot tube.

reptile man
01-30-13, 04:23 PM
thanks guys i orderd this one.
Zilla Slimline Tropical 25 UVB T8 Fluorescent FixtureUVB light output promotes proper calcium absorption for reptile bone health
Simulates natural daylight and fulfills photo-biological requirements of reptiles
Compact & lightweight
Pre-assembled
Includes one 15 watt Tropical 25 UVB bulb

AjaMichelle
01-30-13, 07:52 PM
Don't use Zilla UVB bulbs!!! Especially the "slim Line" t5 bulbs! They kill other species of reptiles regularly (like anoles) by inducing photo-kerato-conjunctivitis! I've witnessed this personally and in laboratory settings, across five species (equestris, carolinensis, distichus, sagrei, and cristatellus). I would recommend using Arcadia or Exo Terra UVB bulbs.

I have not used this brand with varanids but the type of short wave UVB radiation emitted by the bulbs is not safe.

Here's a link UV Lighting for Reptiles: A new problem with high UVB output fluorescent compact lamps and tubes? (http://www.uvguide.co.uk/phototherapyphosphor.htm)

This has remained an issue with Zilla products even recently as 2011.

totheend
01-30-13, 10:06 PM
Don't use Zilla UVB bulbs!!! Especially the "slim Line" t5 bulbs! They kill other species of reptiles regularly (like anoles) by inducing photo-kerato-conjunctivitis! I've witnessed this personally and in laboratory settings, across five species (equestris, carolinensis, distichus, sagrei, and cristatellus). I would recommend using Arcadia or Exo Terra UVB bulbs.

I have not used this brand with varanids but the type of short wave UVB radiation emitted by the bulbs is not safe.

Here's a link UV Lighting for Reptiles: A new problem with high UVB output fluorescent compact lamps and tubes? (http://www.uvguide.co.uk/phototherapyphosphor.htm)

This has remained an issue with Zilla products even recently as 2011.


That site was last updated in 2009.

AjaMichelle
01-31-13, 01:35 AM
That site was last updated in 2009.

Riiight. I included the link to substantiate my claims, and then I emphasized the following...

Don't use Zilla UVB bulbs!!! Especially the "slim Line" t5 bulbs! They kill other species of reptiles regularly (like anoles) by inducing photo-kerato-conjunctivitis! I've witnessed this personally and in laboratory settings, across five species (equestris, carolinensis, distichus, sagrei, and cristatellus). I would recommend using Arcadia or Exo Terra UVB bulbs.

I have not used this brand with varanids but the type of short wave UVB radiation emitted by the bulbs is not safe.

Here's a link UV Lighting for Reptiles: A new problem with high UVB output fluorescent compact lamps and tubes? (http://www.uvguide.co.uk/phototherapyphosphor.htm)

This has remained an issue with Zilla products even recently as 2011.

This is still an issue for Zilla. It has not been resolved. I witnessed the same results with these bulbs in another individual's collection on another forum in 2012.

reptile man
01-31-13, 09:04 AM
Don't use Zilla UVB bulbs!!! Especially the "slim Line" t5 bulbs! They kill other species of reptiles regularly (like anoles) by inducing photo-kerato-conjunctivitis! I've witnessed this personally and in laboratory settings, across five species (equestris, carolinensis, distichus, sagrei, and cristatellus). I would recommend using Arcadia or Exo Terra UVB bulbs.

I have not used this brand with varanids but the type of short wave UVB radiation emitted by the bulbs is not safe.

Here's a link UV Lighting for Reptiles: A new problem with high UVB output fluorescent compact lamps and tubes? (http://www.uvguide.co.uk/phototherapyphosphor.htm)

This has remained an issue with Zilla products even recently as 2011.

ok thanks i ordered a reptisun 10.0

murrindindi
01-31-13, 11:29 AM
Hi, as already stated, when properly supported (as in) sufficient temps, humidity, a whole prey diet etc, they can live long, healthy and productive lives without exposure to either natural or artificial UVB. There`s no evidence to suggest it`s harmful. If using artificial UVB bulbs/tubes you must follow the manufacturers instructions.
The tubes you mention need to be within a maximum of 25cm (10inches) fom the surface of the animal/s when basking.

reptile man
01-31-13, 12:09 PM
Hi, as already stated, when properly supported (as in) sufficient temps, humidity, a whole prey diet etc, they can live long, healthy and productive lives without exposure to either natural or artificial UVB. There`s no evidence to suggest it`s harmful. If using artificial UVB bulbs/tubes you must follow the manufacturers instructions.
The tubes you mention need to be within a maximum of 25cm (10inches) fom the surface of the animal/s when basking.

if it has no effect i will just use them as extra lighting

BarelyBreathing
01-31-13, 02:52 PM
Hi, as already stated, when properly supported (as in) sufficient temps, humidity, a whole prey diet etc, they can live long, healthy and productive lives without exposure to either natural or artificial UVB. There`s no evidence to suggest it`s harmful. If using artificial UVB bulbs/tubes you must follow the manufacturers instructions.
The tubes you mention need to be within a maximum of 25cm (10inches) fom the surface of the animal/s when basking.


I thought I escaped you for good. Hi, Stefan. How are you doing?

murrindindi
01-31-13, 04:00 PM
I thought I escaped you for good. Hi, Stefan. How are you doing?


Hi Hedy, I`m doing fine, I hope you are, too!
I think it was Miss Aja Michelle or Wayne or Joshua who informed me you were missing our friendly banter so here I am, ready when you are..... :)
I was seriously hoping Frank Indiviglio would be deep in conversation but no sign of that? I hope it won`t be a missed opportunity, a chance to get the message across that there IS a better way when it comes to captive care of these animals (there`s even LOTS of REAL evidence)!!

infernalis
01-31-13, 10:08 PM
I hope it won`t be a missed opportunity, a chance to get the message across that there IS a better way when it comes to captive care of these animals (there`s even LOTS of REAL evidence)!!

If Bennett, Mendyk & Kirshner all together can't sway him Stefan, I don't see him changing his views.:eek: