why so much arguing?

[omega]

I just joined this forum and am amazed at how many threads have people arguing, calling names and putting each other down. Really? Is this the way it always is here? I came here to learn about snakes but I really don't like sifting through all the rude disagreeing that goes on. Can't we all just be nice? :(

[Lankyrob]

No theree ISN'T!!!! ;)

There is no dorum on the net without some arguments. The difference here is taht USUALLY there are disagreements that dont result to petty name calling and pathetic insults, and when these do occur then bans occur and the rubbish is deleted :)

[Loucifer]

I've noticed that happens in ALL the reptile sites. I've bailed on a couple reptile sites before this one for that very reason. This one is more friendly, so far. People appreciate others vast knowledge, but sometimes some become arrogant and conceited. That happens in ALL things online. Yeah, the interweb is destroying human interaction, if you ask me...:hmm:

[KORBIN5895]

I just joined this forum and am amazed at how many threads have people arguing, calling names and putting each other down. Really? Is this the way it always is here? I came here to learn about snakes but I really don't like sifting through all the rude disagreeing that goes on. Can't we all just be nice? :(

If yo want the long answer then no.

[Terranaut]

Don't confuse discussion with arguing. We can discuss oposing views and say what we want and most of us remain civil at the end of the day. A few threads can get heated but thats the internet for you. If oposing views were not discussed most of the things we know about snake care would still be secret to novice keepers.

[Brently]

I just joined this forum and am amazed at how many threads have people arguing, calling names and putting each other down. Really? Is this the way it always is here? I came here to learn about snakes but I really don't like sifting through all the rude disagreeing that goes on. Can't we all just be nice? :(

I have to say that I agree. That is why I haven't posted on here in a long time. I know I am a novice but when you ask for information and get scoldings and snide remarks instead it really puts you off...

[Loucifer]

You gotta admit, there is a certain degree of douche-baggery floating around. Not everyone is a liberated 20-something in here. Common courtesy is not very common, these days.

[SnakeyJay]

I have to say that I agree. That is why I haven't posted on here in a long time. I know I am a novice but when you ask for information and get scoldings and snide remarks instead it really puts you off...

All depends on the situation.. Some people deserve a scolding and more for things they've posted. :)

[dinosaurdammit]

All depends on the situation.. Some people deserve a scolding and more for things they've posted. :)

but how does this help the animal, you scold a new person for not knowing something and they feel ashamed or hurt and leave you have just damned that animal they were trying to help.

[Loucifer]

but how does this help the animal, you scold a new person for not knowing something and they feel ashamed or hurt and leave you have just damned that animal they were trying to help.

Agreed. Ego trips, plain n' simple! Lots of loud-mouth, tough guys behind keyboards anymore. It's "hip" to be confrontational... :unhappy:

[infernalis]

management here tries our best to keep on top of it.

[ada-man-teus]

i think its a more common theme than some may want to admit...But the lack of tonal inflection has to be calculated in as well....Everyones a bada@* behind a keyboard.....thick skin you jedi...The egos in a room full of know it alls at times can be intimidating...

[shaunyboy]

management here tries our best to keep on top of it.

^^^^^
imo you all do a great job Wayne

this place used to be better,it went to the dogs for a while,but i think slowly but surely,it's getting back to how it used to be...

a decent reptile forum

cheers shaun

[limey]

It seems to come in waves. It's actually not been so bad this last month or so.

When I first joined I noticed it big time. Then I left a while and posted again about 5 weeks ago and got another little burst of attitude, but then it dissipated.

I think it's all down to a few things.

1. How well people know you, ie. how often you post and how you treat others directly affects how people treat you.
2. How much you are "respected" (I am sad to say) some people get the red carpet and some don't.
3. How ridiculous other people deem your questions or answers to be.

But otherwise it's not too bad. Me personally, I try not to judge. The mods are doing their best to keep on top of it all.

I'd just not worry about it too much mate. You can always choose to ignore the responses you don't like and only listen to the people that are respectful :)

You can also report people who are consistently rude.

[SnakeyJay]

but how does this help the animal, you scold a new person for not knowing something and they feel ashamed or hurt and leave you have just damned that animal they were trying to help.

I never said this applied to noobs, your mis-reading me.. I mean people who should know better or are just careless.

[Terranaut]

^^^^^
imo you all do a great job Wayne

this place used to be better,it went to the dogs for a while,but i think slowly but surely,it's getting back to how it used to be...

a decent reptile forum

cheers shaun

I second this for sure.

[moshirimon]

Lol! Ive noticed all the arguing too. You see it on almost every forum though. I find it really hilarious when things escalate sometimes, i just try and stay out of it. they do ruin threads sometimes, with 4 pages of unnecessary conflict.

[Vegasarah]

I'm part of other reptile forums, and I don't know if it's just the people in the Monitor Lizard and Other Lizard area, but I see a lot of fighting on here.

I think that so much of it is just people being plain RUDE. An of course everyone has their own version of what is 'rude'. But petty things like name-calling etc is obvious to me.

I saw a thread the other day where someone was needing some advice and their snake's life was on the line and instead of helping, people jumped all over them. Started calling the person names like 'fail keeper' etc. That's the kind of stuff that pushes people away.

That being said, I have also had about 5 individuals on here who have helped me so much and have put hours of their time into helping me. I'm so grateful for that, I just wish that people could focus on the animals and not their own petty arguments or grudges.

[red ink]

I don't see it - I'm not being argumentative here, I just don't see where the arguments are. It seems to be peaceful to me, maybe it's confined to certain parts of the forum that i don't visit?

Cab somebody PM me some threads where the arguments occur?

[omega]

LOL.... I hope this thread doesn't turn into an argument!!!! I just thought I would share my first impression... guess I don't like that kind of stuff but it sounds like there are lots of nice folks here with knowledge to share. :)

[infernalis]

LOL.... I hope this thread doesn't turn into an argument!!!! I just thought I would share my first impression... guess I don't like that kind of stuff but it sounds like there are lots of nice folks here with knowledge to share. :)

You missed it, but this is like the third or fourth thread on the same subject, and it does often turn into arguing about arguing.

[KORBIN5895]

Lol. Is it just me or is it always the new or low post count members who feel the need to point out how terrible we are for arguing and being mean? Maybe we don't do enough for them? Let's start sending them milk and cookies and having story time! Maybe that will help them snuggle in?

Let explain how this forum works. There is a lot of history and inside jokes. Some people have nicknames like DC while others are called Ace and Gary. Just because you don't understand it or appreciate it doesn't mean anyone needs to start a thread. If I call Aaron the great knob gobbler that's okay because he is. Some people on here have consistently given terrible advice or are pathological liars, these people get treated how they deserve. Most posts people get upset about are because someone spoke the truth but didn't put any syrup on top. So that's just how we roll.

[Loucifer]

Lol. Is it just me or is it always the new or low post count members who feel the need to point out how terrible we are for arguing and being mean? Maybe we don't do enough for them? Let's start sending them milk and cookies and having story time! Maybe that will help them snuggle in?
I remember when I was in my 20's and annoying as Hell...

[dinosaurdammit]

Lol. Is it just me or is it always the new or low post count members who feel the need to point out how terrible we are for arguing and being mean? Maybe we don't do enough for them? Let's start sending them milk and cookies and having story time! Maybe that will help them snuggle in?

no but you dont have to be a pretentious dee-eye-sea-kay either. There is a lot of smugness and ego trips that goes into answering new folks as if everyone is holier than thou and you never had a "dumb" question to ask. It shouldnt be a labor to be kind to your neighbor, or new folks in this instance.

[Squirtle]

I remember when I was in my 20's and annoying as Hell...

Exactly. Kid is trying way to hard to be a funny troll imho..

[EmilyS]

Lol. Is it just me or is it always the new or low post count members who feel the need to point out how terrible we are for arguing and being mean? Maybe we don't do enough for them? Let's start sending them milk and cookies and having story time! Maybe that will help them snuggle in?

I find this rather rude. People like myself come here looking for help and a friendly environment, and then there's someone saying that because they have more posts, they are therefore better. And it's not just you, I have seen this several times, and it is getting on my nerves. I don't think the person who has 1,000 posts should always be seen as more knowledgable than the person with 10.

[infernalis]

Post count means nothing.

We have published biologists here with tiny post counts, and not once have I seen them treat people as lower life forms.

[GarterPython]

Gotta say that I didn't read this whole thread because I was too lazy but it really doesn't bother me and I don't know why it bothers some people so much. I mean it's the Internet and you don't even know the person who cares if they were "calling you names" or whatever. I try not to be rude to people but when some people do it you just got to ignore it and take the good out of it. I got to admit to that it hasn't happened to me that much as right from the beginning I did lots of research so I didn't have to ask to many stupid questions. I still did get some "attitude" but I don't care. You also have to know people. An example that I am thinking of just off the top of my head is Mykee. When your new you might think e is being rude but he really isn't he is just blunt and strait to the point. Well anyway that is my point of view.

[Aaron_S]

Post count means nothing.

We have published biologists here with tiny post counts, and not once have I seen them treat people as lower life forms.

I've also seen their posts well received.

[GarterPython]

I have 1000 posts and I'm stupid just kidding I feel like I am helpful lol

[jennuhkins]

well i love this forum, it has helped me very very much.! but when i get rude remarks it will bother me so much. it can even make me sad at points. i like answers not criticism.. but its everywhere in the internet world. I'm not saying baby me and hold my hand I don't care if your blunt. but name calling can be an issue...

[limey]

Well, let's not forget - the guys that like to stir up trouble or give attitude probably look like this...

Keyboard warriors, nothing more :) They need to feel big somehow, right?

[KORBIN5895]

I remember when I was in my 20's and annoying as Hell...

No offense but you still are....

no but you dont have to be a pretentious dee-eye-sea-kay either. There is a lot of smugness and ego trips that goes into answering new folks as if everyone is holier than thou and you never had a "dumb" question to ask. It shouldnt be a labor to be kind to your neighbor, or new folks in this instance.

Honestly I am no different in life than I am here. I have put up with enough BS that I no longer care. If the sensitive souls don't like what I have to say at least know that what I say is what I know. I won't post things I don't know

Exactly. Kid is trying way to hard to be a funny troll imho..

Serious? You're what 15?

I find this rather rude. People like myself come here looking for help and a friendly environment, and then there's someone saying that because they have more posts, they are therefore better. And it's not just you, I have seen this several times, and it is getting on my nerves. I don't think the person who has 1,000 posts should always be seen as more knowledgable than the person with 10.

Well pony up and show where I said I was better than you.

For all of you with your panties in a twist my point is you don't get the dynamics of the site or the inside jokes. So instead of being offended sit back and learn before you start complaining.

[omega]

Lol. Is it just me or is it always the new or low post count members who feel the need to point out how terrible we are for arguing and being mean? Maybe we don't do enough for them? Let's start sending them milk and cookies and having story time! Maybe that will help them snuggle in?

Let explain how this forum works. There is a lot of history and inside jokes. Some people have nicknames like DC while others are called Ace and Gary. Just because you don't understand it or appreciate it doesn't mean anyone needs to start a thread. If I call Aaron the great knob gobbler that's okay because he is. Some people on here have consistently given terrible advice or are pathological liars, these people get treated how they deserve. Most posts people get upset about are because someone spoke the truth but didn't put any syrup on top. So that's just how we roll.

I did not say anyone was terrible - sorry you took it that way. Gee, thanks for your sarcasm.

[omega]

no but you dont have to be a pretentious dee-eye-sea-kay either. There is a lot of smugness and ego trips that goes into answering new folks as if everyone is holier than thou and you never had a "dumb" question to ask. It shouldnt be a labor to be kind to your neighbor, or new folks in this instance.

Well said.

[KORBIN5895]

I did not say anyone was terrible - sorry you took it that way. Gee, thanks for your sarcasm.

Where the heck did the bold come from?

Oh.... your welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[omega]

" I got to admit to that it hasn't happened to me that much as right from the beginning I did lots of research so I didn't have to ask to many stupid questions"

I'm sorry.. I didn't know there were any stupid questions when people want to learn how to take care of their snake as well as they can. If asking questions here is considered stupid then this is definitely not the forum for me. Isn't one of the main purposes of this forum to ask questions and learn?

[omega]

Well, let's not forget - the guys that like to stir up trouble or give attitude probably look like this...

Keyboard warriors, nothing more :) They need to feel big somehow, right?

LOL... to funny!

[EmbraceCalamity]

Well, let's not forget - the guys that like to stir up trouble or give attitude probably look like this...

Keyboard warriors, nothing more :) They need to feel big somehow, right?Holy ****. I look just like that. =o" I got to admit to that it hasn't happened to me that much as right from the beginning I did lots of research so I didn't have to ask to many stupid questions"

I'm sorry.. I didn't know there were any stupid questions when people want to learn how to take care of their snake as well as they can. If asking questions here is considered stupid then this is definitely not the forum for me. Isn't one of the main purposes of this forum to ask questions and learn?You're operating under the assumption that all questions asked are in the snake's best interest and the person is only looking to do what's best for the snake - which just isn't the case. Well-intentioned, reasonable questions should (and usually are) met with honest answers. There is, however, such a thing as a stupid question.

~Maggot

[Roadtrash]

I agree that there are some discussions that get a little out of hand here but I also agree with one of the other folks that said things have been getting a little better in recent times.

Besides, some of the more spirited ones I enjoy reading.

[SnakeyJay]

The problem is when people come here looking for an answer to back up what they believe.. When we tell them that no,
" you shouldn't just stick 5 snakes together to save space." Or "get a thermostat on that CHE".... they get all upset as its not what they want to hear.

[Corey209]

The problem is when people come here looking for an answer to back up what they believe.. When we tell them that no,
" you shouldn't just stick 5 snakes together to save space." Or "get a thermostat on that CHE".... they get all upset as its not what they want to hear.

Lamp dimmers!

[infernalis]

The problem is when people come here looking for an answer to back up what they believe.. When we tell them that no,
" you shouldn't just stick 5 snakes together to save space." Or "get a thermostat on that CHE".... they get all upset as its not what they want to hear.


See that every day, on many forums.

It is unsettling when some people insist on continuing practices that we know is going to make their animals suffer because they refuse to listen to a little common sense.

that's usually when the unpleasant statements roll out.

[shaunyboy]

See that every day, on many forums.

It is unsettling when some people insist on continuing practices that we know is going to make their animals suffer because they refuse to listen to a little common sense.

that's usually when the unpleasant statements roll out.

^^^^^
thats about the only time i'll tare someone a new arse...

when reptiles suffer,because the op does not want to acknowledge correct answers..



cheers shaun

[infernalis]

Exactly shaun....

I will always be nice to the first post, some people just don't know any better.

But when it becomes obvious that it's like trying to educate a brick, my patience ends.

[Lankyrob]

Lamp dimmers Dont work properly to control temperatures because they dont adjust when ambient conditions change, they are in no way comparable to a decent thermostat!

I corrected yor post for you Corey ;)

[SnakeyJay]

Lamp dimmers!

Yeah what about them?

[KORBIN5895]

^^^^^
thats about the only time i'll tare someone a new arse...

when reptiles suffer,because the op does not want to acknowledge correct answers..



cheers shaun

I call bullshat! I have never seen you tear anyone a new hole and we have had some real idiots on here.

Lamp dimmers!

Terrible idea Corey. We'll just leave it at that.

" I got to admit to that it hasn't happened to me that much as right from the beginning I did lots of research so I didn't have to ask to many stupid questions"

I'm sorry.. I didn't know there were any stupid questions when people want to learn how to take care of their snake as well as they can. If asking questions here is considered stupid then this is definitely not the forum for me. Isn't one of the main purposes of this forum to ask questions and learn?

See? Your lack of people knowledge on here had led you to base your opinion on the philosophy of a 16 year.

And to who ever complained about the fail keeper comment should go back and reread what was actually said.

[shaunyboy]

okay Kevin mate.....:confused:

ive just about...tore some folk a new arsehole..for ignoring decent advice over crap

i thought i had though mate,but i trust your memory,over my own fuddled brain :wacky:

its great ive got Kat and You to keep me right

cheers shaun :)

p.s.the nuts thing is,in real lifew i'm not shy at tearing folk a new one ;)

[Pareeeee]

Oh boy, another one of these threads... :rolleyes:

[Aaron_S]

Well, let's not forget - the guys that like to stir up trouble or give attitude probably look like this...

Keyboard warriors, nothing more :) They need to feel big somehow, right?

I don't look like that...

[Will0W783]

Oh look Aaron, it's your high school yearbook photo! :-P

[Aaron_S]

Oh look Aaron, it's your high school yearbook photo! :-P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/godzilla99/sexy-1_zps28c6ce49.jpg

[Will0W783]

Lol, I can't wait to see. My high school photos shall remain forever hidden. I was SUPER DORK!

[GarterPython]

^oh my god. I'm dying.

[Donnie]

Shall I go get the popcorn and stay up late :bouncy:

[Mark Taylor]

Think I might join you lol.

[marvelfreak]

Do we really need new one of this threads every month?

[GarterPython]

^Agreed. Someone new always posts it.

[Aaron_S]

We'll deflect to something random!!!!




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/godzilla99/darwin_zps82e27aa0.jpg

[lady_bug87]

Do we really need new one of this threads every month?

Yes. Apparently.

[Vegasarah]

We'll deflect to something random!!!!




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/godzilla99/darwin_zps82e27aa0.jpg

.... It's so cute... omg.... look at it's little stumpers!

One of these threads every month? I'm a newb, I didn't know lol.