shedding concerns

[JWFugle]

hey guys i bought a dwarf retic about 6 months ago. and love her very much. she is an awesome eater, great to handle and despite what some say shows affection or atleast preference towards me :)

i do have 2 issues though :-/
1 she can never shed in once piece. i have read tons of forums and help things and all that and tried it nothing is working. she still sheds in 15 pieces all over.

2 because of the first problem this one has happened. i think she may have got a piece of shin stuck on the tip of her tail (about a 1/4in. from tip) and i think it might have caused some damage. after that point her tail is very dry and hard. im worried she may lose it. i soak her regularly and always checking on it and inspecting it to make sure it dosnt have rot growing on it but im not sure what else i can do.

any advice? im debating taking her to a vet but i dont want a "well just keep an eye on it" and a bill for $300...

help Please

thanks
Josh

[Relentless]

What are her temps and humidity kept at? What kind of enclosure is she in? Has she had this stuck shed on her tail since you got her? How many times has she shed since you've had her? Does soaking help it at all? Have you gotten any skin off? Is she dehydrated at all?

Sorry for the massive question list. I'd like to help. She's a pretty girl. :)

[Aaron_S]

What are her temps and humidity kept at? What kind of enclosure is she in? Has she had this stuck shed on her tail since you got her? How many times has she shed since you've had her? Does soaking help it at all? Have you gotten any skin off? Is she dehydrated at all?

Sorry for the massive question list. I'd like to help. She's a pretty girl. :)

Pointless questions.

The tail is dying or already dead. Honestly, you'll need to consult a vet. When this happens it will continue to kill all the healthy tissue around it, up the body. Essentially it's going to eat your snake. It will probably need amputating at this point. Again, consult a vet. I'm talking worse case scenario but BLACK scales are never a good sign.

[Relentless]

Pointless questions.

The tail is dying or already dead. Honestly, you'll need to consult a vet. When this happens it will continue to kill all the healthy tissue around it, up the body. Essentially it's going to eat your snake. It will probably need amputating at this point. Again, consult a vet. I'm talking worse case scenario but BLACK scales are never a good sign.

They don't look black, they look red to me. I don't think they are pointless questions because if this is husbandry related then this will prevent future issues once this particular issue is treated. But thank you for completely dismissing what I asked.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Pointless questions.

The tail is dying or already dead. Honestly, you'll need to consult a vet. When this happens it will continue to kill all the healthy tissue around it, up the body. Essentially it's going to eat your snake. It will probably need amputating at this point. Again, consult a vet. I'm talking worse case scenario but BLACK scales are never a good sign.Wouldn't they still be worth asking to prevent future poor sheds?

EDIT: Relentless got there first. :)

~Maggot

[Aaron_S]

They don't look black, they look red to me. I don't think they are pointless questions because if this is husbandry related then this will prevent future issues once this particular issue is treated. But thank you for completely dismissing what I asked.


You're welcome.

Hopefully the OP sees that I'm trying to save the snake's life currently. I'll fix the humidity issue with him after that. You can fix the humidity of a dead snake all you want, I'd like to save the snake first.

[Relentless]

You're welcome.

Hopefully the OP sees that I'm trying to save the snake's life currently. I'll fix the humidity issue with him after that. You can fix the humidity of a dead snake all you want, I'd like to save the snake first.

Agreed, but I highly doubt the snake is going to die from this depending on if the OP lets it continue without taking the snake to a vet. I'm not arguing the snake should see a vet. I should have placed that in my post, but the answers to those questions are still a high priority, imo.

EmbraceCalamity: Sorry for stealing the thunder! Haha.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Agreed, but I highly doubt the snake is going to die from this depending on if the OP lets it continue without taking the snake to a vet. I'm not arguing the snake should see a vet. I should have placed that in my post, but the answers to those questions are still a high priority, imo.

EmbraceCalamity: Sorry for stealing the thunder! Haha.NO, THEY'RE POINTLESS. HOW DARE YOU ASK. >=o

~Maggot

[korlar21]

I would call your vet if you don't want a vet bill from the start. I would however take it too the vet. It can harm your snake if it gets bacteria in it. That can be life threatening overtime. I know it stinks but I would suck up the vet bill. Anytime you see spots that haven't shed take a cue-tip wet down and lightly removed the skin. If humidity is an issue in your tank get a fogger!

[JWFugle]

ok first off WOW thanks for all the responses. i was expecting a "eh never seen it before"

soo im gonna try anwsering all the questions and not starting WW3 which i see i may have already done. X_X

@relentless
temps
87-89 hot 70 cool) with hot spot directly under lamp 112(this is a heat lamp, no rock, and its on top of a thick wooden hide, and with a black petco grade themo) i have a heat pad under too.

humidity constant 50-55(i know its low but i have glass tank and i boost it to 70-80 during shed with extra water bowls and lots of spraying)

glass 30gal with cover to keep humidity up

soaking seems to help but only with me physically holding her and letting her crawl through my hands while soaking. never had it stuck anywhere else(i always check eye caps) just that last tip of her tail.

definatly not dehidrated she loves swimming and i see her drink regularly and urinate is normal

>> i have a nice Boaphile cage. but i bought it used so being extra cautious cleaning it and making sure it holds heat and humidity before i put her in it.<<<<<

@Aron easy on the extreme man. im not totally oblivious and it hasnt grown up her tail at all

i first noticed it after her 2-3 shed( in the 6 months ive had her shes shed over 15 times btw her growth rate is INSANE. and shes not fat as you can see.
after i noticed it i kept trying to make sure i checked her extra but i thik the damage was done but it never got worse or better. she has just gotten bigger so easier to see what happened.


so after i type that up i continued to hold her and essentially poke at her trying to loosen up that skin. and after another hour or 2(yea she LOVES SWIMMING) i picked at it and bam that blackened tip popped off like a large scab. she was not thrilled about it but she didnt bite or get agressive just suprised. after giving my self a mini heart attack thinking i just ripped off my snakes tail and she was Now going to die i looked at it and i think that is exactly what happen the tip had died and so it was dying off and a scar numbed tail was growing underneath b/c she didnt bleed at all from it and it looks exactly how your skin looks if u peel off a scab to early. redish pinkish. i let her soak for 30-45min after and then put her back. she seems completely unphased by it.

im sure one of u will think im an idiot for doing it but if thats what it was then im ok with that. ill definitely be keeping careful watch of it and looking for any sign of infection.

[JWFugle]

sorry for the long paper. college gets you in the mindset to just keep writing and writing........... :(

[Relentless]

Thanks for that there. Just a few suggestions, 112 is way too hot for the hotspot. It should be no higher than 92 really. I keep mine between 91-92 for the hot spot. Probably high 80s ambient air on hot side, but I just go off of hot spot temperature and ambient air temp on the cool side which I keep at 77-78. Some people say as low as 70 is fine but I wouldn't let it get cooler than 74 really. Where does she spend most of her time? 50-55 for humidity actually isn't terrible. People say 60-70. Personally, mine is kept around 65 and bumped to 75 ish to shed. But knowing your snake is having an issue I'd get her in the Boaphile ASAP so you can keep humidity at at least 60%.

Is the end of her tail where the skin came off discolored or look injured/wounded at all? If it looks irritated I would medicate it with something and just keep a careful eye on it next time she sheds. Also, for soaking her, I would get a plastic bin, like one of those under the bed long plastic storage bins with latching tops. Put enough warm water in that for her to soak in but not have to swim and stick it in the empty tub. I did this for mine when she had a bad shed and 60% of her skin was still stuck to her and I did this for 20 minutes and I was able to get ALL of the skin off no problem. :)

[Lankyrob]

I have a Supper Dwarf retic, i keep the humidity at 70%+ constantly and 80%+ during shed and he sheds all in one piece everytime.

Occassionnally you get two large pieces because of the shed catching and ripping but anymore than a couple of big pieces is a "bad" shed and points to husbandry issues.

Your boaphile should hold humidity MUCH better than a glass tank, get it in there sooner rather than later and hopefully going forward you will have much less issues :)

[shaunyboy]

you NEED to burst the retained shed length wise,from tail tip to head with your finger nail,or a pair of tweezers,one the old sheds off,this will allow blood to circulate,to the tissue thats still living

any necrotic tissue will scab up,the tip of the tail may even drop off

you just need to keep the raw flesh clean,and dab a dilluted iodine solution on it twice daily,to prevent infection

a trip to the vets will tell you how much damage is done

cheers shaun

[JWFugle]

cant really figure out this whole quoteing thing but anyways

@relentless- the skin looks fine nothing infectious or unusual. looks like some pre-mature skin. like you or i would if we pulled a scab off too early. the hot spot thing i agree is hot but im pretty sure my thermo is exagerating it b/c its black and under direct light. cuz the log is not even close to being hot. more so just warm.

@Lankyrob- yes i know i am anxious to get her in the boaphile. i got a 322D for her with flexwatt under and a radiant heat panel over head with a thermo regulator to monitor it all. just waiting on the heat panel. should be here later today :D

@shaunyboy- i believe thats what i did and so i will be keeping a close eye to make sure it is growing properly, and will be keeping her extra clean the next few days.

again thanks all for the help/advice
later today i hope to get the boaphile set up and will try getting a pic of her tail now for you.

[Lankyrob]

To quote someone click the " mark at the bottom right of their post. Click as many as you want and then when you press "post reply" it will compile them all for you :)

[Aaron_S]

cant really figure out this whole quoteing thing but anyways

@relentless- the skin looks fine nothing infectious or unusual. looks like some pre-mature skin. like you or i would if we pulled a scab off too early. the hot spot thing i agree is hot but im pretty sure my thermo is exagerating it b/c its black and under direct light. cuz the log is not even close to being hot. more so just warm.

@Lankyrob- yes i know i am anxious to get her in the boaphile. i got a 322D for her with flexwatt under and a radiant heat panel over head with a thermo regulator to monitor it all. just waiting on the heat panel. should be here later today :D

@shaunyboy- i believe thats what i did and so i will be keeping a close eye to make sure it is growing properly, and will be keeping her extra clean the next few days.

again thanks all for the help/advice
later today i hope to get the boaphile set up and will try getting a pic of her tail now for you.

So you just figure a vet is worthless at this point? The scales and tissues DIED at the end of your snake's tail. I'd go get that checked out instead of "just keeping an eye on it". Reason being, even though YOU may not see it, doesn't mean there isn't more tissue dead that is attached to your snake. It will continue to move up the snake. That's why if a person needs to be amputated they cut a little higher than the actual infection, so it doesn't continue to travel.

[EmbraceCalamity]

So you just figure a vet is worthless at this point? The scales and tissues DIED at the end of your snake's tail. I'd go get that checked out instead of "just keeping an eye on it". Reason being, even though YOU may not see it, doesn't mean there isn't more tissue dead that is attached to your snake. It will continue to move up the snake. That's why if a person needs to be amputated they cut a little higher than the actual infection, so it doesn't continue to travel.Wouldn't that only apply to a nasty infection like flesh-eating bacteria? I've had cuts get infected, but can't say I've ever needed to have anything amputated. If it's just a scab, that doesn't really sound like it's dead or it's infected (without signs). I thought a scab means it's healing, not dead.

But OP, you should at least just call a vet and describe what's going on and see what they think.

~Maggot

[Aaron_S]

Wouldn't that only apply to a nasty infection like flesh-eating bacteria? I've had cuts get infected, but can't say I've ever needed to have anything amputated. If it's just a scab, that doesn't really sound like it's dead or it's infected (without signs). I thought a scab means it's healing, not dead.

But OP, you should at least just call a vet and describe what's going on and see what they think.

~Maggot

It's true it does mean that, the scab part, but the blood was cut off from circulating within the tail tip for who knows how long. It literally died and if something dies on a body then there's a chance the healthy tissue can become infected after some time, even though it looks to be okay.

I know I'm talking worse case scenario but it's a very real thing that can happen easily. If the healing part starts to turn colour then it means that some dead tissue remained and it's infecting the rest once again. I've only ever seen this on one animal, a leopard gecko tail, about 8 years ago at a friend's place. Those tails easily come off, snakes do not.

[EmbraceCalamity]

You must have better eyesight than I do. The pic looks too blurry to me to be able to tell what scales should be yellow and are black instead.

~Maggot

[JWFugle]

So you just figure a vet is worthless at this point? The scales and tissues DIED at the end of your snake's tail. I'd go get that checked out instead of "just keeping an eye on it".

aaron first off... you seem like the type of person who attacks anyone who disagrees with you, very annoying whether your right or not. show some respect.

and second do you run to the ER everytime you get a cut or a bruised elbow?? you sound like the bubble boy and tweak over any nick or scratch you get. these are snakes not helpless sacks of skin... one of the worlds most efficient killers and survivors.

[EmbraceCalamity]

aaron first off... you seem like the type of person who attacks anyone who disagrees with you, very annoying whether your right or not. show some respect.

and second do you run to the ER everytime you get a cut or a bruised elbow?? you sound like the bubble boy and tweak over any nick or scratch you get. these are snakes not helpless sacks of skin... one of the worlds most efficient killers and survivors.Can you maybe get a better pic of the tail? Does it look like there are any scales that are black that shouldn't be?

~Maggot

[lady_bug87]

Aaron is talking about necrosis which is very different from a scab. He isn't attacking anyone. He says it like he sees it. It may be a little rough but its the truth.

If its a scab and it came off, bonus.

If it was a binding shed which caused the tip to die and fall off it *could* mean there is necrotic tissue left behind which *could* cause more problems.

Its up to the op.
Take it to a vet or home treat.

[Aaron_S]

aaron first off... you seem like the type of person who attacks anyone who disagrees with you, very annoying whether your right or not. show some respect.

and second do you run to the ER everytime you get a cut or a bruised elbow?? you sound like the bubble boy and tweak over any nick or scratch you get. these are snakes not helpless sacks of skin... one of the worlds most efficient killers and survivors.

Show respect to whom? Some nobody who is more worried about his wallet than his animal? Proven in the first post. I'm right and that's what matters. I don't attack anyone, I just point out the faults and the reality of the situation.

No, I don't run to an ER ever. I have never been actually. As Lady_Bug pointed out, this is necrosis. It isn't a simple scratch or something. It's far beyond that. Originated from bad husbandry and in the wild, they'd never experience this.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Show respect to whom? Some nobody who is more worried about his wallet than his animal? Proven in the first post. I'm right and that's what matters. I don't attack anyone, I just point out the faults and the reality of the situation.

No, I don't run to an ER ever. I have never been actually. As Lady_Bug pointed out, this is necrosis. It isn't a simple scratch or something. It's far beyond that. Originated from bad husbandry and in the wild, they'd never experience this.Actually, she said it "*could*" be necrosis and "*could*" cause more problems.

~Maggot

[Aaron_S]

Actually, she said it "*could*" be necrosis and "*could*" cause more problems.

~Maggot

Do you have reading comprehension or do you just point out posts that benefit your view so you can feel like you belong in the conversation?

I have stated in previous posts that I'm talking worst case scenario and that it shouldn't be taken lightly as it can kill the snake.

Also, what do you think killed the tail in the first place? Butterflies and rainbows? Sure wasn't a respitory infection. Necrosis has in fact been apart of this situation.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Do you have reading comprehension or do you just point out posts that benefit your view so you can feel like you belong in the conversation?

I have stated in previous posts that I'm talking worst case scenario and that it shouldn't be taken lightly as it can kill the snake.

Also, what do you think killed the tail in the first place? Butterflies and rainbows? Sure wasn't a respitory infection. Necrosis has in fact been apart of this situation.I'm not saying whether it is or not (though you seem to be switching back and forth between "worst case scenario" and "has in fact been apart of this situation"). But you claimed lady_bug said that this "is" necrosis, and I was pointing out that she didn't. She took great care to emphasize the word "could," which you seemed to ignore.

But yes, I do have reading comprehension, hence me picking up on the word "could." :)

~Maggot

[lady_bug87]

Actually, she said it "*could*" be necrosis and "*could*" cause more problems.

~Maggot

I use the word *could* because I am not there to physically see the animal.

However I am leaning toward the tail being the result of necrosis based on the information being given but since I'm not there and I am not a vet I will leave absolutes to those more comfortable making them.

The one experience I had with binding sheds is with my lacerta. My male had a bound shed that I did not notice since their tails are ribbed. When I saw it it had already bulged and I knew it would fall off. It was the last 2mm of tail when it did fall off I consulted with a friend and he advised me the same as I am advising the op.

He said if I saw the tail discolor I better go to a vet. These lizards regenerate their tail. His tail tip grew back without incident. Had he not been a species that regenerated its tail I believe the result would have been different. But there was still a risk.

[EmbraceCalamity]

I use the word *could* because I am not there to physically see the animal.

However I am leaning toward the tail being the result of necrosis based on the information being given but since I'm not there and I am not a vet I will leave absolutes to those more comfortable making them.

The one experience I had with binding sheds is with my lacerta. My male had a bound shed that I did not notice since their tails are ribbed. When I saw it it had already bulged and I knew it would fall off. It was the last 2mm of tail when it did fall off I consulted with a friend and he advised me the same as I am advising the op.

He said if I saw the tail discolor I better go to a vet. These lizards regenerate their tail. His tail tip grew back without incident. Had he not been a species that regenerated its tail I believe the result would have been different. But there was still a risk.I understand that. I personally can't tell from the pic what's black that shouldn't be, and I just don't think it's a good idea to tell someone their snake is going to be eaten alive by dead skin based on a blurry pic, which is why I asked for a better one. But vets are always a good idea if people aren't sure of things.

Also, I didn't know lacertas regrew their tails. That kind of surprises me for some reason.

~Maggot

[lady_bug87]

They do indeed and they do so surprisingly quick. Before I bought my female the supplier I got her from was convinced she was a male. When he tried to pop her she dropped her whole tail. It grew back in a little under 2 months

[EmbraceCalamity]

They do indeed and they do so surprisingly quick. Before I bought my female the supplier I got her from was convinced she was a male. When he tried to pop her she dropped her whole tail. It grew back in a little under 2 monthsThat's really cool. Oh, those are those jeweled lacertas I was admiring before, right? I'm still so jealous of you having those. If only I wasn't a poor college student. D= Did they produce any eggs yet?

~Maggot

[lady_bug87]

Haha yes my jeweled.

No eggs yet

[EmbraceCalamity]

Hopefully someday down the road I'll come around and see posts of babies. :)

~Maggot

[JWFugle]

ok here are some pictures 2 days after the tip of her tail came off.



its not bleeding and i see no black scales or any thing abnormal. as i have been informed however i am a "knows nothing nobody" so i could be off.. :tired1_2:

[lady_bug87]

No one ever said you didn't know anything so chill out.

Its hard to tell from the pictures but it looks like the skin is missing like if you were to shave your finger and expose the meat.

I would at least CALL a vet.

Are you treating the area? If so what are you treating it with?

Have you cleared the substrate away or is the snake on some kind of loose bedding?


EDIT: this does not rule out necrosis

[Relentless]

Here's my .02 again. Take it for what it's worth, because I am not going to order someone to do something or say it rudely.

One, try to get the snake into the boaphile ASAP as that will help greatly with your husbandry issues so this doesn't happen again. I would treat the tip of the tail with something to keep it clean. The tip is missing scales and is clearly red, which is understandable given the circumstances. I would also call a vet and explain that exactly and see what they suggest. The snake's health should be utmost importance and if a vet visit is needed, then suck it up and take the animal. That's being a responsible owner.

The way that this forum handles issues is ridiculous. Sometimes I really can't believe the level of maturity. Arguing with someone that does not have the same morality level as you, or in this case, doesn't agree with you, is pointless. You can't beat them into submission with a keyboard. I'm deleting my account. JWFugle, I wish you the best of luck. I hope she heals without an issue and sheds well next time! And get her into that boaphile! :)

[mykee]

That snake has an ACTIVE infection in the top of the tail. Take it to the vet. Period. Was that too harsh? Did I make you cry? I don't care if I hurt your feelings, it's about the animal.
Secondly, if you had provided proper husbandry, this would never have happened. So if this snake gets proper veterinary care and lives, fix the husbandry.

[Squirtle]

The tip of the tail does not look so good.. I would get it to a vet before it spreads to the rest of the body.

[Aaron_S]

I'm not saying whether it is or not (though you seem to be switching back and forth between "worst case scenario" and "has in fact been apart of this situation"). But you claimed lady_bug said that this "is" necrosis, and I was pointing out that she didn't. She took great care to emphasize the word "could," which you seemed to ignore.

But yes, I do have reading comprehension, hence me picking up on the word "could." :)

~Maggot

I just wanted to stop the confusion you seem to have had with my words.

The situation: Shed skin didn't come off the tip of the tail. It had no circulation so it "died", this is called necrosis, the fell off. (see how it's apart of the situation).

Now as I stated, WORST CASE SCENARIO from that point forward is that the healthy tissue can still be infected and no one will know until symptoms show up again and at that point could be too late leading to the snakes death.

Now do you see how I actually wasn't switching "back and forth" but stating two parts of the situation.


I do see the new pictures and despite people having panties in a wad, I've continually gave out the right advice.

[EmbraceCalamity]

That's nice, Aaron. I'm not going to argue with you any more.

~Maggot

[Aaron_S]

That's nice, Aaron. I'm not going to argue with you any more.

~Maggot

I wasn't looking for one, I was fixing the confusion between my posts that you seemed to have had.

[EmbraceCalamity]

That's nice. :) Hope the OP gets their snake's issues figured out.

~Maggot

[JWFugle]

im not upset or insulted... my comment about the lack of respect and insulting was about you guys fighting with each other... i know im a rookie.i joined anticipating being told im doing somethings wrong, obviously i messed up or i wont have this thread going in the first place.

with that out of the way...

ok i got the worst case scenario thing but i just dont see it happening those disease dont just spawn from thing air. it looks like a normal injury would now that it is healing properly. the pics make it look darker then it is. she will be in the boaphile this weekend and will get some vet advice, im not too cheap to see them, i just went to you guys the ones who know just as much probably as these vets who have never seen a retic before.

[mykee]

ok i got the worst case scenario thing but i just dont see it happening those disease dont just spawn from thing air.""

LOL!!! Yes they do. Tell my dad that who went into the hospital for a heart attack, acquired MRSA and lost his left leg above the knee.

[SnakeyJay]

If necrosis made the tail drop off then it's completely possible that the infection is still there underneath what you can see..

[JWFugle]

LOL!!! Yes they do. Tell my dad that who went into the hospital for a heart attack, acquired MRSA and lost his left leg above the knee.

key word * acquired* im sorry for your dad and whats left of his leg but saying a flesh eating disease comes out of nowhere b/c your dad went to a hospital... where REALLY sick ppl are and can contaminate needles beds ect... compared to an isolated single reptile in an clean environment is slightly stretching it.

[mykee]

If your snake were in a "clean environment" there would be no infection. Did that infection just appeared out of nowhere?
Smarten up. Instead of being close-minded and stubborn, looking for the answer you want and ignoring the truth, use your brain and some common sense.

[Aaron_S]

key word * acquired* im sorry for your dad and whats left of his leg but saying a flesh eating disease comes out of nowhere b/c your dad went to a hospital... where REALLY sick ppl are and can contaminate needles beds ect... compared to an isolated single reptile in an clean environment is slightly stretching it.

Alright kiddo,

Here's the deal. Your animal, through your poor husbandry, has lost the tip of it's tail, likely due to necrosis. There is bacteria and infection associated with that. You need to be more diligent in your husbandry and right now because you've got the tender flesh of a snake's tail out in the open, that's red and could easily be infected already from the dead tissue that was touching it not long ago. It's why a vet has been suggested.

Whatever though, you apparently know better than myself or Mykee. I suspect you don't want to believe us because we don't sugarcoat anything. Go ahead, re-read half the posts from the users in this thread. They don't actually help the situation at hand or even know what their talking about. (Aside from Lady_Bug)

[mykee]

These are the kinds of newbies that pi$$ me off. I know my stuff; I've been around this hobby since 1996 and have been a breeder since 2000. I also don't offer advice if I am not sure of my knowledge. It bothers the hell out of me when some snotnose comes on here looking for HIS answer rather than solid advice.
I'm done in this thread.
May God have mercy of your soul.

[JWFugle]

again you two assume im not taking your advice and ignore everything youve said... w.e.

to anyone who does care or is wondering i took her to the vet she said every thing looks fine but gave me some mild soap to let her soak in to prevent any infection.

for what ever reason some of you thought i was against vets and too cheap and a P.O.S. and wouldnt take her.... your an idiot. i came here first to get helpful insight on what i should do BEFORE taking her to the vet. figured I'd ask experienced ppl see what they had to say then go to the vet.

so thanks to those who were able to be helpful with out being Douchenozzles... others of you w.e. go crawl back in your whole and be mad at the world. we cant all start out with 20 years of experience and self giving titles of professionalism. you were once a know nothing amateur too

[JWFugle]

and aaron i dont want or need info sugarcoated. but id rather not have some trying to shove their d*** up my@$$ while they explain what im doing wrong. theres middle ground find it.

[mykee]

Douchenozzle, I love it! I'm gonna use it.

[Jay]

and aaron i dont want or need info sugarcoated. but id rather not have some trying to shove their d*** up my@$$ while they explain what im doing wrong. theres middle ground find it.
Aaron, you sly dog.

[infernalis]

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[Lankyrob]

http://www.ssnakess.info/forumfun/pease.jpg

My daughter had a plate with that on when she was little :)

[infernalis]

It's just disheartening to see people bicker over helping a sick snake get better.

[Theweinz]

Honestly, I could not agree more. I like peas too. :p

[shaunyboy]

ok here are some pictures 2 days after the tip of her tail came off.



its not bleeding and i see no black scales or any thing abnormal. as i have been informed however i am a "knows nothing nobody" so i could be off.. :tired1_2:


i would keep on white paper towel as substrate,keep the tail tip clean and dab it with an iodine solution twice per day

imo the raw part of the tail will eventually shrivel up,leaving a stumpy tail,with no lasting issues

you do need to watch for a sign of infection or necrosis

cheers shaun

[JWFugle]

i would keep on white paper towel as substrate,keep the tail tip clean and dab it with an iodine solution twice per day

imo the raw part of the tail will eventually shrivel up,leaving a stumpy tail,with no lasting issues

you do need to watch for a sign of infection or necrosis

cheers shaun

yup thats exactly what i have in there now and will keep till shes had 1-2 sheds that are showing her tail is growing normally again.
got her in her new cage so hoping to not have those issues again*cross fingers* im soaking her 2 twice a day with "Nolvasan solution" that the vet gave me
Boaphile 321D with over head heat panel and flex watt with thermo regulator keeping both in check.

one thing i wanted to run by you guys was the vet told me to consider getting a UV light for her and putting it on a 2-3hr timer in her cage or bringing her out and putting her under it to help with shedding and overall health. does anyone do this? I know that unlike reptiles they dont NEED it but makes sense it would be healthy to have some UV exposure like they would naturally. she swims around in a bigger tub i have outside the cage thought i could hang it over that for a few hours at a time while shes out.

[shaunyboy]

her tail won't grow normal mate,it will always remain stumpy....

i bought a hatchling carpet with a tail tip missing due to retained shed,her tail is a stump to this day (she's 5 years old)

i use 2.0 uvb natural daylight bulbs with my carpets,i would not use anything stronger than 2.0 though

cheers shaun

[JWFugle]

her tail won't grow normal mate,it will always remain stumpy....


o yea yea i know that. just ment normal color and shedding properly, i had a corn lose an inch or so years ago. still stump but sheds and is normal. she escaped after breaking the lid off her cage(strong little *******)

[Aaron_S]

and aaron i dont want or need info sugarcoated. but id rather not have some trying to shove their d*** up my@$$ while they explain what im doing wrong. theres middle ground find it.

Meh. My advice was solid from the start. I could careless how you think of my delivery though.

Don't need a UV bulb for anything on your snake but if you wanted one it wouldn't hurt it. It'd be for your convenience though.

[Zombie-girl2009]

Douchenozzle. Ha.