Is this a sav monitor?

[rachmangler]

seems like a really silly question but I have never seen a sav with those solid black lines next to its face in person before. I wanted some impute. Could this be a white throat?

[infernalis]

seems like a really silly question but I have never seen a sav with those solid black lines next to its face in person before. I wanted some impute. Could this be a white throat?

I know that picture well.

Her name was Anna Savannah.

The guy who posted that picture swore she was a Savannah Monitor.

Let me go back and check his photo albums for some other angles.

He sold off his entire reptile "collection" years ago.

BRB.......

[rachmangler]

I know that picture well.

Her name was Anna Savannah.

The guy who posted that picture swore she was a Savannah Monitor.

Let me go back and check his photo albums for some other angles.

He sold off his entire reptile "collection" years ago.

BRB.......


hmm...thats strange. I actually just found this monitor for sale on craigslist. Posted today.

[rachmangler]

Here's the add

1yr. old Savannah monitor male (longview) (http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/pet/3545623224.html)

[Pirarucu]

Yes, that's a Savannah. The add on Craigslist is probably a scam. That or the picture is for reference.

Edit: Definitely going with scam on this one, looking at the add.

[infernalis]

OK, here is a picture of her next to her cage mate... Since he uploaded that album in 2009, I doubt that she's still alive based on the looks of her in this picture.

http://www.savannahmonitor.net/Boscs/annah.jpg

[EmbraceCalamity]

OK, here is a picture of her next to her cage mate... Since he uploaded that album in 2009, I doubt that she's still alive based on the looks of her in this picture.

http://www.savannahmonitor.net/Boscs/annah.jpgBut it is a sav? And what, is she too fat? (Sorry, I'm still not good at picking up on monitor illnesses via pics).

~Maggot

[dinosaurdammit]

But it is a sav? And what, is she too fat? (Sorry, I'm still not good at picking up on monitor illnesses via pics).

~Maggot

id say she is dehydrated and obese, like jaba the hut obese

[infernalis]

That picture is stolen. I know because I own the web site it was stolen from.

it appears on the home page..

My Pet Forums (http://www.thamfriends.com/)

and in the photo albums...

My Pet Forums - Rappstar609's Album: Some of My Animals (http://www.thamfriends.com/forum/album.php?albumid=4)

Annah Savannah was the property of Dan Rapp in 2009.

[Corey209]

That picture is stolen. I know because I own the web site it was stolen from.

it appears on the home page..

My Pet Forums (http://www.thamfriends.com/)

and in the photo albums...

My Pet Forums - Rappstar609's Album: Some of My Animals (http://www.thamfriends.com/forum/album.php?albumid=4)

Annah Savannah was the property of Dan Rapp in 2009.

Texted him he sent me this Charles The Monitor :] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z162Pi_4KCg)

[EmbraceCalamity]

Texted him he sent me this Charles The Monitor :] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z162Pi_4KCg)That poor thing. D=

~Maggot

[AjaMichelle]

Hi Rachel! That's a sav! I thought you had gotten one for a minute!

[EmbraceCalamity]

What about the video? You familiar with it?

~Maggot

[Lankyrob]

Where's that like button? :)

[infernalis]

But it is a sav? And what, is she too fat? (Sorry, I'm still not good at picking up on monitor illnesses via pics).

~Maggot

I am sorry I overlooked your post.

That monitor is sprawled flat to absorb more heat from the basking light.

However she is way overweight and that indicates improper husbandry.

He was a very active on the forum, but it was during a time when my Savannah Monitor was living under the same conditions. Just enough substrate to absorb some poop and make dust.

So rather than scold him for it, I would chat away all day about that all invert diet crap.

Now I have two that "look like snakes with legs" (I was recently told that) who are hyperactive acrobats that tripod every day and run at speeds I have never witnessed before with my own eyes.

In retrospect I can't believe how blind I was, why do the Varanids in the documentary films look so impressive, and all the captive ones drag across the floor and sleep all day.

It's not freaking rocket science. It's a box of damn dirt, simple common sense mandates that we need to give exotic animals the same environmental parameters that they have evolved to survive in.

This is true of many captive animals, they barely resemble their wild counterparts.

Keepers of many species need to open up their eyes and smell the coffee.

[Vegasarah]

It's not freaking rocket science. It's a box of damn dirt, simple common sense mandates that we need to give exotic animals the same environmental parameters that they have evolved to survive in.

This is true of many captive animals, they barely resemble their wild counterparts.

Keepers of many species need to open up their eyes and smell the coffee.

*applause* Couldn't have said it better myself! I wish there were more people like you in the herp world, Wayne. The passion you have for your animals is so apparent and so refreshing. People see those stupid youtube videos of these 'tame' animals and think 'oooh! look how cuddly! I'm going to get one!' and then the animals suffers and dies a slow painful death. Or the pet store looking to make a buck will tell the buyer improper care and not tell you that this animal will one day need IT'S OWN BEDROOM. That's how the Nile I rescued came into my care, and it's how 1000's of others like him are living. Just really sad, to be honest.

[infernalis]

Thank you Sarah

it's how 1000's of others like him are living. Just really sad, to be honest.

it's how 1000's of others are dying.

[Corey209]

How big exactly should an adult monitor enclosure be? I'm not getting one anytime but years down the road when I have a stable job I might.

[infernalis]

if you go by my web site, you have all you need.

[EmbraceCalamity]

On the topic of natural environmental surroundings, I just found this: http://www.facebook.com/MacGyverTegu?sk=timeline

Thoughts? >.>

~Maggot

[Pirarucu]

On the topic of natural environmental surroundings, I just found this: http://www.facebook.com/MacGyverTegu?sk=timeline

Thoughts? >.>

~MaggotDying of slow dehydration. A house is not at the proper temperature or humidity for a tegu... If it was, the house would be falling apart.

[infernalis]

whatever floats his boat.

Not something I would do, but his Tegu does look outwardly good..

[Pirarucu]

whatever floats his boat.

Not something I would do, but his Tegu does look outwardly good..I actually stumbled across one of the videos the other day, something seemed wrong with the back legs to me. It wasn't really using them, just wiggling them ineffectually.

[Little Wise Owl]

On the topic of natural environmental surroundings, I just found this: http://www.facebook.com/MacGyverTegu?sk=timeline

Thoughts? >.>

~Maggot

It really irritates me when I see tegu keepers letting their lizards simply live in the house without an enclosure... ugh. Especially when they post about it on a tegu specific forum and no one says anything about it. The tegu community I feel is a little behind in general care and husbandry.

[EmbraceCalamity]

I think this is the most recent video:

MacGyver ? 3 Foot Lizard Wants Attention - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_700957&feature=iv&list=SP059B56FDB5DF78D8&src_vid=OWM9TIWrwrU&v=Wd-w0YGKBA4)

Weird.

~Maggot

[Little Wise Owl]

How is he receiving proper humidity and hydration? Ugh

[infernalis]

The young man who posted the craigslist ad has apologized and asked for help.

He handled the entire thing with more maturity than anyone I have ever made contact with.

He subscribed to my youtube channel & is reading the web site and asking me questions.

I consider that a far bigger victory than getting the ad removed.

If only they all panned out this way.

I'm going to invite him to join the forum.

[Corey209]

The young man who posted the craigslist ad has apologized and asked for help.

He handled the entire thing with more maturity than anyone I have ever made contact with.

He subscribed to my youtube channel & is reading the web site and asking me questions.

I consider that a far bigger victory than getting the ad removed.

If only they all panned out this way.

I'm going to invite him to join the forum.

Why was he using fake pictures? and he actually does own a monitor?

[infernalis]

Why was he using fake pictures? and he actually does own a monitor?

He thought the picture was really cool, found it on a Google search.

Yes he does own a Savannah Monitor, He has changed his mind and decided to keep it.

He's young, we all make mistakes when we are young.

His willingness to learn and do what's right impresses me to no end.

Most young people are stubborn and refuse to listen, not this guy, he's been very cordial and apologetic.

The best course of action now is to help him and be equally polite.

[Corey209]

He thought the picture was really cool, found it on a Google search.

Yes he does own a Savannah Monitor, He has changed his mind and decided to keep it.

He's young, we all make mistakes when we are young.

His willingness to learn and do what's right impresses me to no end.

Most young people are stubborn and refuse to listen, not this guy, he's been very cordial and apologetic.

The best course of action now is to help him and be equally polite.

Well.. that actually adds up.

Good to know and I hope he can give a proper enclosure for his monitor. He is in an apartment though so.. that could be troublesome.

[infernalis]

Well.. that actually adds up.

Good to know and I hope he can give a proper enclosure for his monitor. He is in an apartment though so.. that could be troublesome.

I cleaned up the thread, If we are going to have him as a memeber here, I don't want to start out on the wrong foot.

[Donnie]

The young man who posted the craigslist ad has apologized and asked for help.

He handled the entire thing with more maturity than anyone I have ever made contact with.

He subscribed to my youtube channel & is reading the web site and asking me questions.

I consider that a far bigger victory than getting the ad removed.

If only they all panned out this way.

I'm going to invite him to join the forum.

That's great news he has chosen to listen

[varanus_mad]

http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp148/typhus4/P1040652.jpg

^ white throat.

Different headshape scale pattern etc

http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp148/typhus4/P1040633_zps38bd2c98.jpg

[marvelfreak]

Sweet pictures VM.

[EmbraceCalamity]

He thought the picture was really cool, found it on a Google search.

Yes he does own a Savannah Monitor, He has changed his mind and decided to keep it.

He's young, we all make mistakes when we are young.

His willingness to learn and do what's right impresses me to no end.

Most young people are stubborn and refuse to listen, not this guy, he's been very cordial and apologetic.

The best course of action now is to help him and be equally polite.Do I have to? :( I mean, how "young" are we talking here? Young to you or young to me? >.>

~Maggot

[dinosaurdammit]

Do I have to? :( I mean, how "young" are we talking here? Young to you or young to me? >.>

~Maggot

does it really matter his age?

[EmbraceCalamity]

does it really matter his age?Well, I'm less forgiving of someone my age than someone, like, 13. There's a big difference between the two, but both are "young."

~Maggot

[infernalis]

I was still doing extremely impudent things well into my thirties.

May sound boring, but I have not even gotten a speeding ticket in almost 20 years now.

Had to lose my license once to learn about respecting my driving privileges.

There is a reason insurance premiums go down as we age, I carry 3 million dollars in auto insurance for less than many younger people pay for basic liability.

Growing up means making mistakes, that's how we learn and grow.

[EmbraceCalamity]

I was still doing extremely impudent things well into my thirties.

May sound boring, but I have not even gotten a speeding ticket in almost 20 years now.

Had to lose my license once to learn about respecting my driving privileges.

There is a reason insurance premiums go down as we age, I carry 3 million dollars in auto insurance for less than many younger people pay for basic liability.

Growing up means making mistakes, that's how we learn and grow.I'm going to take it that means my age. ;)

~Maggot

[DiscoPat]

Well.. that actually adds up.

Good to know and I hope he can give a proper enclosure for his monitor. He is in an apartment though so.. that could be troublesome.

I was in an apartment and I managed to get a house and build an 8x4x4 within 2-3 months of getting my Sav. I am lucky enough that the humidity in Eugene stays around 50-60% so when he was in the 4x2x2 the humidity wasn't as big of a problem as it can be, once I changed the lights anyway.

So it definitely is possible to get a proper enclosure fast. I would consider myself to be quite lower class currently. I make about $14k a year and I was able to do it.

Also with the attitude the person seems to have towards it I bet they will put forth the effort to give that Sav a good enclosure.