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So as I have noticed a good bit of growth in my sav I decided to try him on a "small" mouse. He had it down the hatch in no time with about 4/5 gulps. Currently his daily intake is 2-3 fuzzies and Whatever number of adult locusts he chooses to eat, generally around 4 or 5.
If I were to switch him to smalls, how many a day would be recommended? Last I measured him a few months back he was 11 inches nose to tail but has grown probably a good few since then.
What do people have to say about a mainly rodent diet?
And last but not least im wanting to add more soil/sand mixture to his enclosure but he already has burrows how should I go about this?
Cheers
infernalis
01-10-13, 03:47 PM
A mainly rodent diet isn't fatal in itself, all the nutrients are there, But even though I could do this, I personally mix it up.
Some highly successful keepers have vibrant animals on just rodents.
When I add more dirt, I scatter it about right over the top of everything that's already there.
Build it up in layers. Scatter on a few inches, lightly water, let it bake a few days, scatter a little more, repeat.
Ok cool. Ill still be offering a small variety of other stuff aswell, I have ordered tubs of fruit beetle larva and earthworms to be picked up on Saturday. Its just that to buy bulk locusts I have to travel and I dont drive as of yet so when they run out he will have a couple of days just on mice.
From that video I posted of my sav eating the small mouse that was hanging, how often would you say itsrrecommended to offer of this size?
Ill do that then,
Thanks man
Youre lucky, you live in Europe, so it makes it much easier for you to give a good variety. You can get both dubia roaches and locusts, both of which are easy to breed and make nice big meals. I wish we could get locusts over here. Id recommend a variety of good invert food sources aside from just the rodents.
Pirarucu
01-10-13, 09:40 PM
Why is it we can't get locusts over here anyways? I assume it's a legal issue..
Im not certain, but Im guessing its a pest issue. Imagine if some crazy breed of locust got loose in farmland areas.
Youre lucky, you live in Europe, so it makes it much easier for you to give a good variety. You can get both dubia roaches and locusts, both of which are easy to breed and make nice big meals. I wish we could get locusts over here. Id recommend a variety of good invert food sources aside from just the rodents.
Yeah, shame im s**t scared of cockroaches haha! What about fruit beetles? Ordered a few boxes of the larva.
Id imagine it down to a pest issue. If any were to escape over here at thr moment they would be frozen in a matter of seconds lol.
infernalis
01-11-13, 03:43 AM
We have a flying grasshopper out in my meadow that are readily accepted.
They are just so hard to catch, the little buggers sit there until just before you can net it, then take flight so quick that the hit/miss ratio favors the grasshopper's safe escape.
But so much fun to watch the lizards chase.... the grasshopper always loses.
Pirarucu
01-11-13, 07:43 AM
We have a flying grasshopper out in my meadow that are readily accepted.
They are just so hard to catch, the little buggers sit there until just before you can net it, then take flight so quick that the hit/miss ratio favors the grasshopper's safe escape.
But so much fun to watch the lizards chase.... the grasshopper always loses.Get a sweep net and go hunting.. LOL You can catch unbelievable amounts of bugs that way.
Ive got all sorts of live feeders running around the neighbourhood. Too bad I cant use any of them! Everyday I see rats, mice, roaches, water bugs, and thats just on the subway. All I think every time I see a rat is...well that would save me a few bucks. ;)
infernalis
01-11-13, 10:44 AM
Living in the boonies has advantages.
I never hesitate to feed w/c crayfish either, that creek is so clean my family will drink from it without hesitation.
The rocks and sand filter it so nice, and it's the same aquifer that feeds my well.
Pirarucu
01-11-13, 04:21 PM
You are very lucky Wayne. I would love to live in a spot like that.
Vegasarah
01-16-13, 06:07 PM
Do you set traps for the crayfish? I'm jealous that such a food feeder is readily available and free to you! Unless scorpions are a good diet choice, I'm pretty much S.O.L.
Pirarucu
01-16-13, 08:58 PM
Do you set traps for the crayfish? I'm jealous that such a food feeder is readily available and free to you! Unless scorpions are a good diet choice, I'm pretty much S.O.L.Scorpions will not be turned down...
Corey209
01-16-13, 09:01 PM
Living in the boonies has advantages.
I never hesitate to feed w/c crayfish either, that creek is so clean my family will drink from it without hesitation.
The rocks and sand filter it so nice, and it's the same aquifer that feeds my well.
I wouldn't drink it unless I boiled it :shocked: There's all kinds of nasty bacteria and parasites that could be in there.
Vegasarah
01-16-13, 09:45 PM
Scorpions will not be turned down...
Maybe if I cut the stingers off first... they are so easy to find out here, all you need is a pair of tongs, a bucket, a flashlight and a moonless night!
infernalis
01-16-13, 11:09 PM
Different species of scorpions, I'm not real sure North American scorpions are good for them or not.
Corey209
01-17-13, 01:09 AM
We have a flying grasshopper out in my meadow that are readily accepted.
They are just so hard to catch, the little buggers sit there until just before you can net it, then take flight so quick that the hit/miss ratio favors the grasshopper's safe escape.
But so much fun to watch the lizards chase.... the grasshopper always loses.
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You should do this to catch your critters :p
Lankyrob
01-17-13, 04:13 AM
I wouldn't drink it unless I boiled it :shocked: There's all kinds of nasty bacteria and parasites that could be in there.
Fresh water from a natural stream tastes like nothing else on planet!! I would never dtink from a river but the streams in our local woods are amazing :)
Wow, those Hercules beetles would make a nice big meal!
varanus_mad
01-17-13, 04:57 PM
Different species of scorpions, I'm not real sure North American scorpions are good for them or not.
Erm dont you feed them nightcrawlers from over here?
and those locust things you find hopping round your field?
and seafood...
Unless of course scorpions from NA are likely to have poisonous flesh.
infernalis
01-17-13, 05:20 PM
Erm dont you feed them nightcrawlers from over here?
and those locust things you find hopping round your field?
and seafood...
Unless of course scorpions from NA are likely to have poisonous flesh.
Good point, My only concern is this mate.
The North American scorpions are (lethal) venomous, the big Emperor scorpions are not.
The north American toad is non lethal to our native reptiles, they are now an invasive species in Australia, Even the mighty Perentie & Lace Goanna are dropping like flies from eating them.
Everything I feed my lizards has been tried before by others with no ill effects.
So maybe it's just paranoia, but I wouldn't want to try it with my animals.
varanus_mad
01-18-13, 09:55 AM
Good point, My only concern is this mate.
The North American scorpions are (lethal) venomous, the big Emperor scorpions are not.
The north American toad is non lethal to our native reptiles, they are now an invasive species in Australia, Even the mighty Perentie & Lace Goanna are dropping like flies from eating them.
Everything I feed my lizards has been tried before by others with no ill effects.
So maybe it's just paranoia, but I wouldn't want to try it with my animals.
The venom side of things would be an issue, beyond that i dont see it being a problem, as a rule i avoid amphibians & brightly coloured inverts.
Cane toad? that the species your on about?
infernalis
01-18-13, 10:10 AM
The venom side of things would be an issue, beyond that i dont see it being a problem, as a rule i avoid amphibians & brightly coloured inverts.
Cane toad? that the species your on about?
Yes, I know south american mate.
Crocdoc said any Bufo species has the same result, since Australia has none (aside from invasive) that the Varanids never evolved a tolerance to them.
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