Help in identifying this species

[chin]

Dear enthusiasts,

I have been keeping herps for some time now and have always marveled at the beauty of a GTP. I finally got my hands on one and need your help in identifying it.

I am now based in a country where language seems to be a problem. I was told by the breeder that its a "super sulewati" (hmmmm.....)

[Calihusker]

I've never heard of a "super sulewati" :hmm:

[Lankyrob]

Sulawesi is an island that some snakes come from, i have heard it referenced for aggressive retics but no idea if GTP's come from there or not :)

[chin]

This guy isn't any bit feisty =)

[Corey209]

http://www.seh-herpetology.org/files/bonnensis/035_DeLang.pdf

Found this and from what it says there's no GTPs from there. Doesn't mean it's correct though.

[Zoo Nanny]

They are located on Sulawesi per the IUCN Red List
Morelia viridis (Green Python, Green Tree Python) (http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/177524/0)

[chin]

I saw:

Range Description: This species is distributed throughout mainland New Guinea, its offshore islands, and in eastern Indonesia (Aru Islands, Salawati, Missol, Cenderrawasih Bay Islands and Papua) (Iskandar and Colijn 2001). This species is also found in the northeast Cape York Peninsula of Australia. It is found between sea level and an altitude of 2,000 m above sea level.

Could be the one. Now, where does the "super" come in? lol

[Edmond Y]

This green tree is now changing his colour, please keep us update how he is doing. It will take another whole months to complete.

Edmond

[chin]

THe photos attached were taken about 2 days after it shed..

[lady_bug87]

This green tree is now changing his colour, please keep us update how he is doing. It will take another whole months to complete.

Edmond

I think that depends on the locality. My sorongx jade line went from yellow to green in 2 weeks

[chin]

it has problems feeding after its shed. I have got no choice but to have it assist fed =(

[lady_bug87]

I'm not sure if I missed it or not but why assist feed? Some neonates can go on hunger strikes that last weeks without ill effects on the animal.

Before assist feeding I would ensure your husbandry is correct and that the animal is not being stressed by multiple feed attempts (one every 7+ days is fine) and obviously not being handled.

Please note that assist feeding and force feeding is extremely hard on the animal and could cause more problems.

Has the animal started to lose weight?

[Lankyrob]

it has problems feeding after its shed. I have got no choice but to have it assist fed =(

How long has it not fed for?? Assist feeding should be one of the LAST steps

[Edmond Y]

Any snake will stop eating if he don't feel comfortable or save. temp, light and humdity rule green tree hobby. leave it alone for any two weeks and feed him at night. make sure you dim the light first.

Edmond

[lady_bug87]

Any snake will stop eating if he don't feel comfortable or save. temp, light and humdity rule green tree hobby. leave it alone for any two weeks and feed him at night. make sure you dim the light first.

Edmond

^^^absolutely

I agree with this completely. I got my gtp about a month after it hatched and though it took patience I got her started well and she has not missed a meal since.

I would really hope you take all of this into consideration when you are deciding whether to assist feed since it really should be the last resort

[Lankyrob]

I should just add that my GTP hasnt eaten since october 2012, am not expecting him to start again until february or march 2013 - this is perfectly normal :)

[lady_bug87]

I should just add that my GTP hasnt eaten since october 2012, am not expecting him to start again until february or march 2013 - this is perfectly normal :)

Its also a well established adult

[Lankyrob]

Its also a well established adult

His is going through its colour change so is hardly a neonate :)

[lady_bug87]

I still don't think you should be comparing the 2.

Smiley faces aside, no it isn't a neonate but it IS a juvenile which is not subject to the same hunger strikes as well established adults of breeding size during brumation

[Lankyrob]

My guy isnt brumating as such, he hasnt had a drop in temps and i am still offering food whereas i wouldnt be if he was brumating.


And also juvenile males can go throughh the breeding season "break" as well as adult males.

[lady_bug87]

Instead of a lengthy debate I'm going to have to suggest we agree to disagree.

[Lankyrob]

I was awake for most of last night so started some light reading.

I wanted to quote this paragraph from the "Bible" The More Complete Chondro by Greg Maxwell

"Seasonal fasting is just a fact of life for those keeping mature male chondros. It usually lasts several months, with no harm caused. The male will resume feeding when he is ready, and if he was eating rats when he went off feed, he will eat rats again when he is ready for food. No fancy tricks or special food items are needed. Most of the time these tricks dont work anyway. The male is off-feed because his instincts are telling him not to eat, and he hasn't suddenly lost his appetite for rats. The best thing you can do is relax! Males can begin fasting as early as a year and a half in age, and fasts of two to five months are common. I offer fasting males food each time i feed teh collection, and suddenly one night they will resume eating, just as if they had never stopped. Males can go off food at any time of the year, but most individuals will fast at the same time period each year. I repeat this advice many times each year, yet some keepers become almost frantic when one of their animals refuses food for a month. You must accept fasting as a normal part of the life of chondros, especially males. Fasting males do not cause me a bit of concern"