What new reptile should I get??

[snakekid6996]

I'm looking to get a pet at my dads. Unfortunately I can't get a snake. Also, no tranchulas, scorpions, cockroaches, or anything like that. The equipment I currently have are a 10 gallon & 15 gallon tall (stand that fits both), small/medium water & feeding bowls, small/medium hides, lamp domes, a 23ft. 50w heater cable, monsoon rainfall system, and a waterfall (rainfall system and waterfall are in my bci tank but I can take them out if I need to. I am also open to animals that need bigger cages/different equipment, because I have 150-200$ to spend. I'm looking for somthing that doesn't need to be fed a crap ton. I would prefer an animal I can have live plants and a natural set up with, but it doesn't have to be. Oh and nothing that gets to big I'm looking for a small/medium sized reptile. What are some ideas??

[EmbraceCalamity]

Are you fond of geckos? There are so hundreds of different species. I'm sure you could find one that would suit you, and they don't generally eat very much or get very big.

~Maggot

[Corey209]

Set up an awesome dart frog vivarium!

[iBaman]

chameleon, if you're ready for the challenge!!

[Corey209]

chameleon, if you're ready for the challenge!!

Isn't it recommended not to keep chameleons in glass?

[snakekid6996]

I was actually thinking about dart frogs or a chameleon... There is a kit that has everything needed for 200 on joshsfrogs & I can buy a all mesh chameleon enclosure for around 100 and I already have everything I'd need for that.

[Corey209]

I was actually thinking about dart frogs or a chameleon... There is a kit that has everything needed for 200 on joshsfrogs & I can buy a all mesh chameleon enclosure for around 100 and I already have everything I'd need for that.

A live dart from vivarium is an awesome show case though.

[iBaman]

I was actually thinking about dart frogs or a chameleon... There is a kit that has everything needed for 200 on joshsfrogs & I can buy a all mesh chameleon enclosure for around 100 and I already have everything I'd need for that.

thriving chameleons are soooo rewarding!!

[snakekid6996]

A live dart from vivarium is an awesome show case though.

Hell yeah they are :) but I would want to build a fancy background Wichita would cost me another 50 and I have to buy a frog so that would bring my price range of 200 up to almost 300...

[Corey209]

Hell yeah they are :) but I would want to build a fancy background Wichita would cost me another 50 and I have to buy a frog so that would bring my price range of 200 up to almost 300...

I've seen DIY videos of dart frog vivariums that were made a lot cheaper than $200 and looked really nice.

[snakekid6996]

Look up desert iwagumi on YouTube. I think this tank is amazing. I was thinking about doing somthing like that in a 10 or 30gallon to keep somthing like a leopard gecko in.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Hell yeah they are :) but I would want to build a fancy background Wichita would cost me another 50 and I have to buy a frog so that would bring my price range of 200 up to almost 300...Not necessarily. I was at a show last month and they had a whole setup for about $75 and frogs for about $25 each.

This place has some great frogs: Josh's Frogs - Largest online herps feeders and reptile supplies store (http://www.joshsfrogs.com/)

~Maggot

[Corey209]

Look up desert iwagumi on YouTube. I think this tank is amazing. I was thinking about doing somthing like that in a 10 or 30gallon to keep somthing like a leopard gecko in.

I'd put a leaf-tailed gecko in that, amazing tank.

[totheend]

A Rhac! You can have a nice planted tank and they don't eat a lot. You just need an MRP.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Look up desert iwagumi on YouTube. I think this tank is amazing. I was thinking about doing somthing like that in a 10 or 30gallon to keep somthing like a leopard gecko in.I wouldn't keep a leo in a 10 gallon its whole life. 30 gallon would be better. That's an awesome setup, though it would also need a humid hide somewhere in there.I'd put a leaf-tailed gecko in that, amazing tank.I'm pretty sure all leaf-tailed geckos are arboreal and require high humidity levels.

~Maggot

[snakekid6996]

Not necessarily. I was at a show last month and they had a whole setup for about $75 and frogs for about $25 each.

This place has some great frogs: Josh's Frogs - Largest online herps feeders and reptile supplies store (http://www.joshsfrogs.com/)

~Maggot

I've never been to a reptile expo before, but there is a small local one this Saterday I might go to for 6$.. If they have something I like and can take care of I might buy it. If not there is one on feb. 2nd for free an hour or two away I might go to if I can talk my parents into it

[EmbraceCalamity]

I've never been to a reptile expo before, but there is a small local one this Saterday I might go to for 6$.. If they have something I like and can take care of I might buy it. If not there is one on feb. 2nd for free an hour or two away I might go to if I can talk my parents into itYou should go. Even if you don't buy anything, it's an awesome experience. :)

~Maggot

[snakekid6996]

A Rhac! You can have a nice planted tank and they don't eat a lot. You just need an MRP.

A whaaaa???

[Corey209]

I wouldn't keep a leo in a 10 gallon its whole life. 30 gallon would be better. That's an awesome setup, though it would also need a humid hide somewhere in there.I'm pretty sure all leaf-tailed geckos are arboreal and require high humidity levels.

~Maggot

The broad leaf-tailed (which I was referring to) aren't arboreal are they?

[Corey209]

A whaaaa???

I think he's talking about a leachie?

[snakekid6996]

You should go. Even if you don't buy anything, it's an awesome experience. :)

~Maggot

The one Saterday seems like it's gunna be just a few people talking about reptiles.. Idk if I should waste my 6$ to go, when in a month there is one for free that seems a lot bigger.. They were announcing how they had 70+ tables already and still more signing up. Should I just put my money away and wait until that or go to the one Saterday??

[EmbraceCalamity]

A whaaaa???Rhacodactylus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhacodactylus)The broad leaf-tailed (which I was referring to) aren't arboreal are they?Do you mean the broad-tailed gecko? You're right, they're not arboreal, but they do require higher humidity (60%).The one Saterday seems like it's gunna be just a few people talking about reptiles.. Idk if I should waste my 6$ to go, when in a month there is one for free that seems a lot bigger.. They were announcing how they had 70+ tables already and still more signing up. Should I just put my money away and wait until that or go to the one Saterday??That's up to you. Personally, I'd probably shell out the $6 to go and then go to the other one too, but it would be perfectly logical to just wait for the free one.

I'm not sure where you live, but have you looked around at any rescues or maybe searched Craigslist (you can search by miles from zipcode on searchtempest.com) or eBay classifieds? You can find some pretty cool reptiles, often for cheaper than at a show. But a show is a viable option too. :)

~Maggot

[totheend]

Sorry, a crestie, or garg or leachie. All easy to feed and keep.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Sorry, a crestie, or garg or leachie. All easy to feed and keep.They're all arboreal and require higher humidity though, right? So if OP went that route, he'd do better to get a vertically-oriented larger enclosure than the 10 or 15 gallons he has.

~Maggot

[snakekid6996]

Yeah there are soooo many snakes that are very cheap (or free) on craigslist, but like I said I can't get a snake at my dads. My step mom won't allow it. If I could I would, because I Love snakes and would take a snake of any kind over any other hero out there. She has her mind pretty set on no snakes and I don't think I'll ever talk her into it. I'm 15 so I might as well wait 3 years to move out and get more snakes.. Anyways, the only other things on craigslist I see are occasional house & leopard gekos and rarely somthing cool (that I couldn't keep >.>) like Someone rehoming a 15ft. Burm. Python or 5ft. iguana

[GarterPython]

Okay I didn't really read all the replies but the chameleon is a terrible idea. First of all they are a huge commitement and get ig when they are older. Second you can never use a glass tank for anytype of chameleons except for a Pygmy Chameleon which might be an option. And last but not least before you get any reptile escpetially a hard to keep reptile like the chameleon you have to research ALOT. Being a member on the chameleon forum i see WAY too many people who go out and buy chameleons not knowing what to do then they end up dying because of all the hard work. They also are a lot of money. For your tank and stuff I would recommend researching a Crested Gecko or a Gargoyle gecko. Sorry for being a little strait forward with the chameleon thing but it happens so much that if I can prevent it I will. And as you might notice by my signature yes I do not have a chameleon because I do not have the money but have been researching them for a good 2-3 years now. Once I get my own car and get a job I will hopefully be getting a chameleon but I can't right now. I know by experince that a Crested Gecko is a great way to go escpetially because they eat repashy and only have to be fed crickets sometimes.

[GarterPython]

Also they carry Crested Geckos at pretty much all pet stores. And I have one and he is 2 years old now and I only spray him once in a while and he is fine. Like 2 times every day.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Yeah there are soooo many snakes that are very cheap (or free) on craigslist, but like I said I can't get a snake at my dads. My step mom won't allow it. If I could I would, because I Love snakes and would take a snake of any kind over any other hero out there. She has her mind pretty set on no snakes and I don't think I'll ever talk her into it. I'm 15 so I might as well wait 3 years to move out and get more snakes.. Anyways, the only other things on craigslist I see are occasional house & leopard gekos and rarely somthing cool (that I couldn't keep >.>) like Someone rehoming a 15ft. Burm. Python or 5ft. iguanaI was thinking maybe you could find some geckos on there. I've occasionally seen a few on there.Okay I didn't really read all the replies but the chameleon is a terrible idea. First of all they are a huge commitement and get ig when they are older. Second you can never use a glass tank for anytype of chameleons except for a Pygmy Chameleon which might be an option. And last but not least before you get any reptile escpetially a hard to keep reptile like the chameleon you have to research ALOT. Being a member on the chameleon forum i see WAY too many people who go out and buy chameleons not knowing what to do then they end up dying because of all the hard work. They also are a lot of money. For your tank and stuff I would recommend researching a Crested Gecko or a Gargoyle gecko. Sorry for being a little strait forward with the chameleon thing but it happens so much that if I can prevent it I will. And as you might notice by my signature yes I do not have a chameleon because I do not have the money but have been researching them for a good 2-3 years now. Once I get my own car and get a job I will hopefully be getting a chameleon but I can't right now. I know by experince that a Crested Gecko is a great way to go escpetially because they eat repashy and only have to be fed crickets sometimes.Okay, I wasn't sure if I was right about that. I thought they got pretty big, but I didn't want to say anything without being sure. 10 or 15 gallons seems too small for a full-grown crestie though.

EDIT: I still think the dart frog idea is a great one. They can fit in a 10 or 15 gallon just fine, and the fully furnished ones look so cool.

~Maggot

[totheend]

They're all arboreal and require higher humidity though, right? So if OP went that route, he'd do better to get a vertically-oriented larger enclosure than the 10 or 15 gallons he has.

~Maggot

You can tip it up right....Or if it is well planted it should be fine.

[GarterPython]

Well I dont know how big a 15 gallon is in dimentions but mine is 12x12x18 and it is big enough. I would like to get him a bigger one but he still has lots of room. And to tell you the truth I was to lazy to read all the replies so I don't know if anybody covered the chameleon thing. Just wanted to make sure.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Well I dont know how big a 15 gallon is in dimentions but mine is 12x12x18 and it is big enough. I would like to get him a bigger one but he still has lots of room. And to tell you the truth I was to lazy to read all the replies so I don't know if anybody covered the chameleon thing. Just wanted to make sure.I didn't say anything because I didn't want to without being positive. I do remember reading a bit about chameleons though, and they get quite large and are difficult to keep.

And a 20 gallon is usually considered the minimum for a full-grown crestie.You can tip it up right....Or if it is well planted it should be fine.It would need to be altered to keep the substrate and the humidity in. Not saying it can't be done. Just seems like something else would be easier.

They also sell conversion kits for regular tanks like that to make them arboreal and allow the substrate to be kept in.

~Maggot

[iBaman]

they said they would get a screen enclosure for a cham. And as long as you have the right stuff and knowledge, you can do it. It's not impossible, and they're already on this forum for knowledge...why not point them in the right direction for the cham forum so they can make an educated decision on it?

[EmbraceCalamity]

they said they would get a screen enclosure for a cham. And as long as you have the right stuff and knowledge, you can do it. It's not impossible, and they're already on this forum for knowledge...why not point them in the right direction for the cham forum so they can make an educated decision on it?I don't think anyone said it was impossible, just that it's probably not the best idea unless the OP is really into chameleons. Plus, I'm pretty sure screen enclosures can't work for chameleons, as they require moderate to high humidity levels, which can't really be maintained unless the area around the enclosure has high humidity too.

~Maggot

[iBaman]

they need high ventilation as well...sorta like tarantulas. but I agree, they shouldn't get it if they aren't totally committed to it. they're so cool though...such feisty little buggers xD

[Corey209]

I don't think anyone said it was impossible, just that it's probably not the best idea unless the OP is really into chameleons. Plus, I'm pretty sure screen enclosures can't work for chameleons, as they require moderate to high humidity levels, which can't really be maintained unless the area around the enclosure has high humidity too.

~Maggot

I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to keep chameleons in glass because they need ventilation which is why they use screen but I do recall seeing a video of a known breeder in Europe using ALL glass with all completely healthy chameleons inside.

[GarterPython]

IBaman I see what your saying but I'm just saying that it is a lot of work to have a chameleon. You should have lots of research done on them before you even think about getting one. If you are up for learning about them Chameleon's Forum is a great place to learn. One of the smaller chameleons and cheaper chameleons are the Jackson's Chameleons. They need a 18x18x36 MINIMUM cage size and it needs to be screen. There is also lots of stuff you need to know about the lighting and what not. If you are serious about wanting to get a chameleon then I would go to the chameleon forum and ask any questions you have. Also feel free to P.M. Me any time to ask questions about them. I can answer most of the basic question for you and I also know some good care sheets for them. I you need any help concerning the Chameleon thing just PM me and I'll help you the best I can.

[GarterPython]

And no thy need to be screen... Yes humidity can be a problem with some of them especially if you are in a really dry area but your chameleon will not thrive if it does not have high ventilation which is achieved by getting a screen enclosure

[totheend]

I didn't say anything because I didn't want to without being positive. I do remember reading a bit about chameleons though, and they get quite large and are difficult to keep.

And a 20 gallon is usually considered the minimum for a full-grown crestie.It would need to be altered to keep the substrate and the humidity in. Not saying it can't be done. Just seems like something else would be easier.

They also sell conversion kits for regular tanks like that to make them arboreal and allow the substrate to be kept in.

~Maggot

The OP said they were willing to upgrade. There really isn't anything easier to keep than a rhac. The 15 as it is would be fine planted. Upgrade when needed.

[EmbraceCalamity]

And no thy need to be screen... Yes humidity can be a problem with some of them especially if you are in a really dry area but your chameleon will not thrive if it does not have high ventilation which is achieved by getting a screen enclosureAre you on chameleonforums.com?The OP said they were willing to upgrade. There really isn't anything easier to keep than a rhac. The 15 as it is would be fine planted. Upgrade when needed.I know they did. I'm just talking about what is easiest with what they have. Again, from what I've found, it's generally agreed that 20 gallons is a minimum for adult cresties. I don't know about the other rhacs though.

~Maggot

[SSSSnakes]

When getting a reptile, you should not being trying to find a reptile that fits into what enclosure and furnishing you have. It is more important to find a reptile that you really want and have a passion for. Getting animals that fit into what we already have, tends to cause these animals to become over looked and their care suffers due to a lack of interest. If you get what you are passionate about, even if you have to buy a new enclosure and furnishings will be much more rewarding for you and the animal.

[Lankyrob]

Forgive me if i am wrong. You are keeping this at your fathers, which suggests to me that YOU arent going to be there everyday for feeding/maintenance?

If this is the case then will your dad/stepmom feed and maintain whilst you are absent?

[GarterPython]

Yes I am a member on the chameleon forums. I do not post much but I am on nearly every day.

[Jendee]

a boa :) if you have the room if not get a Mexican boa lol

[GarterPython]

He said no snakes...or am I confusing this with another thread?

[snakekid6996]

a boa if you have the room if not get a Mexican boa lol
I have a bci at my moms c:, but like grterpython said no snakes allowed at dads :c.

And no thy need to be screen... Yes humidity can be a problem with some of them especially if you are in a really dry area but your chameleon will not thrive if it does not have high ventilation which is achieved by getting a screen enclosure
If I got a chameleon I would get a 24X24X48 or bigger mesh enclosure and hook up the monsoon rainfall system to it for humidity and drinking (they drink droplets off leaves)

[snakekid6996]

lksdjbfvqlirbvlifdbvqsibc I want another snake sooooooooo bad!!!! ;c

[totheend]

He said no snakes...or am I confusing this with another thread?

Nope, you are correct....no snakes!!

[poison123]

I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to keep chameleons in glass because they need ventilation which is why they use screen but I do recall seeing a video of a known breeder in Europe using ALL glass with all completely healthy chameleons inside.

i dont know if it was said already but chams do just fine in glass cages if you have ventilation on the bottom and top to get air flow.

[Corey209]

i dont know if it was said already but chams do just fine in glass cages if you have ventilation on the bottom and top to get air flow.

I would get one for my zoo med but man do I hate feeding lizards all the time..

Zoo Med X-Large Naturalistic Terrarium (http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/reptile-supplies/reptile-cages-and-vivariums/natural-glass-terrariums-and-stands/-/zoo-med-xlarge-naturalistic-terrarium/)

[poison123]

I would get one for my zoo med but man do I hate feeding lizards all the time..

Zoo Med X-Large Naturalistic Terrarium (http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/reptile-supplies/reptile-cages-and-vivariums/natural-glass-terrariums-and-stands/-/zoo-med-xlarge-naturalistic-terrarium/)

those kind of cages do great for chams like a panther or a veiled along with the exo terras.

[Corey209]

those kind of cages do great for chams like a panther or a veiled along with the exo terras.

I just wish I had more time for a cham..

[BryanB]

I would stay away from the cham for now a good goal later but not now. A good question would be how often are you at your dads to take care of your future creature?

[GarterPython]

The best cage for a cham is a screen. There is no point of doing any glass. If you read any good chameleon care sheet or go on chameleon forus they will tell you to use a screen cage.

[GarterPython]

And sorry for the double post but good oint BryanB

[poison123]

The best cage for a cham is a screen. There is no point of doing any glass. If you read any good chameleon care sheet or go on chameleon forus they will tell you to use a screen cage.

I am on a cham forum. IMO theres no need to use all screen its very hard to keep humidity in a screen cage. And i am talking from personal experience. I had my veiled for 6 years he was in a screen cage for most of his life until i talked to somebody who recommended i put him in a wooden cage with 2 vents.

[Corey209]

The best cage for a cham is a screen. There is no point of doing any glass. If you read any good chameleon care sheet or go on chameleon forus they will tell you to use a screen cage.

There's glass cages with plenty of ventilation and reptiles don't fit into one little care sheet 100% of the time.

[GarterPython]

Yes but there isn't really a debate that screen is the best for a chameleon. If you are doing something might as well do it as well as you can. Screen cages aren't any more money and they are better for the chameleon in the long run. It is also a lot easier to find a 24x24x48 in screen then glass.

[poison123]

Yes but there isn't really a debate that screen is the best for a chameleon. If you are doing something might as well do it as well as you can. Screen cages aren't any more money and they are better for the chameleon in the long run. It is also a lot easier to find a 24x24x48 in screen then glass.

How do you know that screen cages are best? have you ever tried using both?

[GarterPython]

I had a good family friend that had a couple of chams and he always used screens and it worked perfectly fine. Then he heard this debate where you can use glass cages as long as it has lots of ventilation yet he had to different chas in two different glass cages and ended up switching them to screen because it did not provide enough ventilation.

[GarterPython]

And if he lived most of his life in a screen why switch. And there is oviously a reason you used the screen in the first place but any way I don't want us to over take this thread so if you want to make a thread or something then I will keep talking about it but this is about this guy finding a good reptile.

[BryanB]

I hate to bring it up but this isnt a thread on the best enclosure for a cham

[GarterPython]

^Thats what I said in my last post is that if he wants to keep talking about it we can make a thread about it becasue I don't want to take over this thread more than we already did.

[snakekid6996]

I would stay away from the cham for now a good goal later but not now. A good question would be how often are you at your dads to take care of your future creature?

I'm at my dads half time and my moms half time.. so i'm looking for somthing that I can just dump some crickets in every 2-3 (or more) days if possible.

[snakekid6996]

and I'm about to leave for the reptile expo...hoping to come home with the right pet :) wish me luck

[SSSSnakes]

I'm at my dads half time and my moms half time.. so i'm looking for somthing that I can just dump some crickets in every 2-3 (or more) days if possible.

This looks like a re[tile that is going to suffer. If you can not take care of it every day then don't get it. You are putting your want of something, anything to keep, over the quality of care you can offer it.

[snakekid6996]

This looks like a re[tile that is going to suffer. If you can not take care of it every day then don't get it. You are putting your want of something, anything to keep, over the quality of care you can offer it.

The days i'm not there my dad will check on it..I've keep snakes at my moms for 9 years like this and they are healthy

[EmbraceCalamity]

The days i'm not there my dad will check on it..I've keep snakes at my moms for 9 years like this and they are healthyIt's not really ideal to just throw some crickets in every couple days, as they'll either eat them all and then have nothing to eat or they won't and the crickets will harass them. Plus you'd need to throw in a lot of crickets to last several days. Snakes are one thing, but lizards are entirely different in feeding. They need to eat more often and have a reliable food source. I guess you could do a dish of mealworms if its a herp that will eat them.

~Maggot

[SSSSnakes]

It's not really ideal to just throw some crickets in every couple days, as they'll either eat them all and then have nothing to eat or they won't and the crickets will harass them. Plus you'd need to throw in a lot of crickets to last several days. Snakes are one thing, but lizards are entirely different in feeding. They need to eat more often and have a reliable food source. I guess you could do a dish of mealworms if its a herp that will eat them.

~Maggot

Great post. If you are comparing the frequency of care needed for a snake to the frequency of care needed for a different kind of reptile, you should really think about not getting one.

[GarterPython]

Also a crested gecko only needs crickets once in a while so if you decided to get a Crestie it would be perfect... You would just need a little bit of a different cage... Mine is 12Wx12Lx18H. A crested gecko sounds like the perfect one.

[EmbraceCalamity]

Also a crested gecko only needs crickets once in a while so if you decided to get a Crestie it would be perfect... You would just need a little bit of a different cage... Mine is 12Wx12Lx18H. A crested gecko sounds like the perfect one.The CGD needs to be changed pretty often though, doesn't it? I don't think it can just sit for several days. Could be wrong though.

~Maggot

[Aaron_S]

The CGD needs to be changed pretty often though, doesn't it? I don't think it can just sit for several days. Could be wrong though.

~Maggot

I would hope his dad or stepmom could easily change that out every day that he isn't there.

The cham idea is the worse suggestion ever. Who suggests that for someone who says "I don't want to feed it a lot." Daily insects would constitute a lot.

[EmbraceCalamity]

I would hope his dad or stepmom could easily change that out every day that he isn't there.

The cham idea is the worse suggestion ever. Who suggests that for someone who says "I don't want to feed it a lot." Daily insects would constitute a lot.Well he said his dad just "checks" on things and that he wants something that can be fed once every couple days, so I gathered that they wouldn't be willing to clean the bowl, mix the food, and put it back in every day. If they are, that's cool though.

~Maggot

[Aaron_S]

Well he said his dad just "checks" on things and that he wants something that can be fed once every couple days, so I gathered that they wouldn't be willing to clean the bowl, mix the food, and put it back in every day. If they are, that's cool though.

~Maggot

Meh we'll wait and see.

[GarterPython]

The crested gecko diet doesn't dry out insaney quick. Mine can last 2 days sometimes if I don't have his light on. But his dad should be able to switch it. It isn't hard.

[BryanB]

I would hope a gecko followed home or a beardie would not be a bad idea if dad droped in some veg on a daily basis.

[GarterPython]

i would recommend a beardie but thats just me.

[EmbraceCalamity]

The crested gecko diet doesn't dry out insaney quick. Mine can last 2 days sometimes if I don't have his light on. But his dad should be able to switch it. It isn't hard.Depends on his dad's personality. I doubt mine would, and I know my mom or stepdad wouldn't. Just don't want to assume he's willing to, because if that assumption is wrong, it could cause issues later.

~Maggot

[snakekid6996]

I came home with a cham....I didn't read this until after. Right now he is a baby and he is in a 15gallon tall with a wire mesh thing that makes it an extra 10in. tall...so hes in a 30" tall enclosure with a monsoon rainfall system.. I bought 1000 crickets and some food you have to make the dealer said he used for his chams. He said mix one part of the food with 2 parts water (or, his liked it with apple sauce :P) and mix..he said his loved it. Anyways, he said he would put in just a few crickets every 1-3 days and they liked to hunt them.. he said I could do that and put the other premade food in and he'd be fine

[poison123]

what kind of cham?

[BryanB]

well I wish you the best of luck I have never owned one so I will not be much help on pointers but read everything you can get your hands on please.

[GarterPython]

Ok first of all what type of cham is it? Second of all sorry to see ignorent but why would you get a cham if you have done almost no research on them and you are not even going to be there half the time. I get that it is over now so I will and we will help you get through it. A cham when older will need a 24x24x48 cage that is screen. It is also going to need to eat everyday. Most mooshy food for chams isn't that great but I guess you could try. He needs some lighting if you don't have any yet. The best uvb light to use for them is the reptisun 5.0 and a heat lamp. They need the repti sun so you need to get that as soon as you can. Other than that I can't remember the exact temps and humidity because its late and my brain shut off but you should get a digital hydrometer if you don't already have one and you should also get a digital thermometer. I also recommend getting a temp gun as there heating can be a problem. If you could put a picture of the cage it would also really help. I'm not sure if it worked but I also attached a picture of an examle of a pretty well set up cage. It should have lots of things to climb on also.

[snakekid6996]

Ok first of all what type of cham is it? Second of all sorry to see ignorent but why would you get a cham if you have done almost no research on them and you are not even going to be there half the time. I get that it is over now so I will and we will help you get through it. A cham when older will need a 24x24x48 cage that is screen. It is also going to need to eat everyday. Most mooshy food for chams isn't that great but I guess you could try. He needs some lighting if you don't have any yet. The best uvb light to use for them is the reptisun 5.0 and a heat lamp. They need the repti sun so you need to get that as soon as you can. Other than that I can't remember the exact temps and humidity because its late and my brain shut off but you should get a digital hydrometer if you don't already have one and you should also get a digital thermometer. I also recommend getting a temp gun as there heating can be a problem. If you could put a picture of the cage it would also really help. I'm not sure if it worked but I also attached a picture of an examle of a pretty well set up cage. It should have lots of things to climb on also.

I've spent hours researching them over the past few months. It's a baby/juvinile veiled and it's in a enclosure about 20"wideX10"deepX30"tall.. I plan on moving it to at least a 24X24X48 as it grows. right now he has a 5.0 uvb light, a desent amount of branches and fake vines, and the monsoon rainfall system which is set to 4-8 seconds every 2 hours (which I might bump up to every hour) he has no bedding currently.. I put a glass jar with 5 1/2 inch crickets in the bottom to see if he would even eat. He is pretty stressed from the move atm. I'm also putting a 40w heat lamp on top of the enclosure by tomorrow. If You have any suggestions on how to improve his enclosure please share.

[GarterPython]

Ok if I had a picture it would help more but is ur uvb lamp a long tube one or just the small twirly ones because the twirly ones can actually hurt there eyes and are not good for there eyes.

[snakekid6996]

it's a small twirly...It's raised a few inches from the top.

[GarterPython]

Ok well you need to change that then. It can really harm them after a while. It might not occur right away but it can slowely harm them. Reptisun 5.0 is what you are going to need.

[poison123]

it's a small twirly...It's raised a few inches from the top.

I would switch that light out for a tube as garter said it can harm them and has been known to cause blindness.

[GarterPython]

^Yep I think we were posting at the sae time lol. Reptisun is one of the more reliable brands.

[snakekid6996]

crap, I've never herd that.. There goes 20$ on a bulb.. but I'll change that asap. Do the long one need a special light hood or can You plug them into any old aquarium hood? nd picks are being uploaded on the computer so theyll be up soon

[snakekid6996]

what the tank looks like
http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/tlppkp12/011-3_zps59373a12.jpg
what his crickets are in
http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/tlppkp12/012-3_zpsf8e0c134.jpg
his light fixtures (5.0 26W uvb bulb and 40w heat lamp)
http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/tlppkp12/010-3_zpsf5015aa8.jpg
full set up.. 15gal. tall with extension & stand.. monsoon rain system under the stand
http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/tlppkp12/009-3_zps1a20b31f.jpg

[poison123]

looks suitable for now keep in mind these grow VERY fast and no the lights dont need any special lamp.Also look into live plants. Pothos,ficus, umbrella plant ect

[snakekid6996]

I'm planning on getting a live plant in the future. Also, how long will it take him to settle in before he starts eating?? I put 5 crickets in that glass jar t the bottom. Is that fine for now?? Will he be able to find it and how long should I wait before I start to worry if he doesn't eat??

[GarterPython]

I would try tomorrow and I would try and get him to take it off tweezers. The going away thing might be a problem. Sorry to say but that wasn't the smartest move to get something that needs daily care when you aren't going to be there all the time. The jr should be fine for now. And I'm not sure if you know this but they have trouble drinking from still water so you need to make sure that the spray is going on the leaves so that he can drink off of them. I would recommend putting the mister to about 10 seconds every 1 hour- 2 hours depending on how humid it is where you live.

[GarterPython]

Also you have to post as many pictures of this guy as soon as he starts to seddle in. I love chameleons and they are one of the few things I get to help with on this forum. So I garenty that probably every thread that you put on hi I will probbly be posting. You have to post pics as he grows up. I love seeing them grow. lol that is all.

[EmbraceCalamity]

I would try tomorrow and I would try and get him to take it off tweezers. The going away thing might be a problem. Sorry to say but that wasn't the smartest move to get something that needs daily care when you aren't going to be there all the time. The jr should be fine for now. And I'm not sure if you know this but they have trouble drinking from still water so you need to make sure that the spray is going on the leaves so that he can drink off of them. I would recommend putting the mister to about 10 seconds every 1 hour- 2 hours depending on how humid it is where you live.Oh, but he's been researching them for months. Obviously he already knows all of that. :rolleyes:

~Maggot

[snakekid6996]

the sprayer is on for about 4 seconds every 1-2 hours, because he is in a room with a 125, 55, and 30 gallon fish tank so the room is pretty humid even during winter.. I tried to get it to spray on as many leaves as possible (which was hard, because the misters are at the top and I don't want them spraying out of the cage onto the ground around). I'm afraid he wont find the water though. He is always at the very top of the cage trying to get out. I placed him at the bottom so he might explore and he was in the same spot at the top literally within 30 seconds. Also, there are pics on a different thread I just posted...and I'm glaad You know a lot cuse i'll probably need a lot of help.. Don't worry though, I plan on doing my best to give this little guy (or girl) a happy healthy life.

[poison123]

do you know the sex? Males will have spur on there hind feet and females are just flat. If it is a female you have to do lots of research on there egg laying process. Lots of people kill there chams do to not having a proper nest and they get egg bound.

[snakekid6996]

do you know the sex? Males will have spur on there hind feet and females are just flat. If it is a female you have to do lots of research on there egg laying process. Lots of people kill there chams do to not having a proper nest and they get egg bound.

How long will it take her to reach maturity and her to start laying eggs??