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poison123
01-03-13, 01:57 PM
So recently my atb hasn't been eating (about 2 weeks) Shes been killing her prey but then drops it and then ignores it. Im not to sure whats going on. her temps and humidity are right. Ive tried covering her glass door with a shirt but when i come back the mouse is just dead on the ground. Ive left it in there for a good while before i took it out but she didn't go down to eat it. I mite try and feed her at night since she is pretty active at night. Any suggestions?

Lankyrob
01-03-13, 02:23 PM
How many rimes have you tried in two weeks? The way your post is written it sounds like you ahve tried a lot, give it ten days or so before trying agian or you jsut stress the snake out.

For reference my GTP last ate at the end of october :)

Corey209
01-03-13, 02:27 PM
I know that it's best to feed ATB's smaller and that they don't have the best metabolism but I found a pretty detailed caresheet that talks about feeding. It states that ATB's rarely have feeding problems even when WC

Amazon Tree Boa (Corallus hortulanus & sp) (http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?127276-Amazon-Tree-Boa-(Corallus-hortulanus-amp-sp))

poison123
01-03-13, 02:28 PM
How many rimes have you tried in two weeks? The way your post is written it sounds like you ahve tried a lot, give it ten days or so before trying agian or you jsut stress the snake out.

For reference my GTP last ate at the end of october :)

i only tried about 3 times in 2 weeks. Im starting to think its stress from messing with her enclosure.

Lankyrob
01-03-13, 02:30 PM
i only tried about 3 times in 2 weeks. Im starting to think its stress from messing with her enclosure.

That wouldnt help, give it time to settle and then try again :)

poison123
01-03-13, 02:31 PM
I know that it's best to feed ATB's smaller and that they don't have the best metabolism but I found a pretty detailed caresheet that talks about feeding. It states that ATB's rarely have feeding problems even when WC

Amazon Tree Boa (Corallus hortulanus & sp) (http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?127276-Amazon-Tree-Boa-(Corallus-hortulanus-amp-sp))

ive had her for under 2 years now and she has always been a great feeder other then when shes in shed.

poison123
01-03-13, 02:33 PM
That wouldnt help, give it time to settle and then try again :)

that would probably be my best bet. Ill keep you guys updated :)

Lankyrob
01-03-13, 02:34 PM
I know that it's best to feed ATB's smaller and that they don't have the best metabolism but I found a pretty detailed caresheet that talks about feeding. It states that ATB's rarely have feeding problems even when WC

Amazon Tree Boa (Corallus hortulanus & sp) (http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?127276-Amazon-Tree-Boa-(Corallus-hortulanus-amp-sp))

I thought the google advice was gonna stop? :confused:

Corey209
01-03-13, 02:38 PM
I thought the google advice was gonna stop? :confused:

I actually go to that site, I didn't google :p but from the most known amazon site, the majority of people feed every two weeks and they don't feed large meals.

jausi
01-03-13, 03:08 PM
I actually go to that site, I didn't google but from the most known amazon site, the majority of people feed every two weeks and they don't feed large meals.


I feed mine once every week a full grow mause, mine is almost 2 years now, I always check for poop before I feed her, did you check if your poop at all, you can always take a poop sample to your local vet, to check for parasites, somethimes pray will carrie them and it will make your snake to stop feeding

poison123
01-03-13, 04:38 PM
I actually go to that site, I didn't google but from the most known amazon site, the majority of people feed every two weeks and they don't feed large meals.


I feed mine once every week a full grow mause, mine is almost 2 years now, I always check for poop before I feed her, did you check if your poop at all, you can always take a poop sample to your local vet, to check for parasites, somethimes pray will carrie them and it will make your snake to stop feeding

ehh shes only missed a couple feedings. Ill wait a little longer till ill take her to a vet.

Lankyrob
01-03-13, 05:28 PM
I actually go to that site, I didn't google but from the most known amazon site, the majority of people feed every two weeks and they don't feed large meals.


I feed mine once every week a full grow mause, mine is almost 2 years now, I always check for poop before I feed her, did you check if your poop at all, you can always take a poop sample to your local vet, to check for parasites, somethimes pray will carrie them and it will make your snake to stop feeding

Any prey item bought form a feeder breeder should be clean of anything likely to harm the snake, and two weeks for a snake not eating is like you skipping an afternoon snack, it isnt going to hurt anyone :)

jausi
01-03-13, 09:11 PM
Any prey item bought form a feeder breeder should be clean of anything likely to harm the snake, and two weeks for a snake not eating is like you skipping an afternoon snack, it isnt going to hurt anyone :)

Im not really sure what is the name but I know a friend of mine bought some mause for his snake from a well know breeder, and after his feed him the snake wouldnt eat at all for weeks more than 3 and it was a year old snake well stablish eating like a champ,so my buddy took a poop sample to a vet the they found some kind of worms that came from the mause.

Do you guys threat all your feeders before feeding them to your snakes??, I only fed f/t to my ATB, just curious

poison123
01-03-13, 09:59 PM
Im not really sure what is the name but I know a friend of mine bought some mause for his snake from a well know breeder, and after his feed him the snake wouldnt eat at all for weeks more than 3 and it was a year old snake well stablish eating like a champ,so my buddy took a poop sample to a vet the they found some kind of worms that came from the mause.

Do you guys threat all your feeders before feeding them to your snakes??, I only fed f/t to my ATB, just curious

I don't treat my mice. I pretty confident the mice are healthy Ive been getting feeders from there for over 10 years now.

Lankyrob
01-04-13, 05:09 AM
I dont treat my prey items either,just trust the breeder/supplier :)

Jason_Hood
01-04-13, 11:25 AM
It is winter. Winter air temps can drop the ambient cage temps down and trigger the snake to stop eating. That would be my guess. As an adult ATBs can go off feed for a month or more each winter.

Jason

poison123
01-04-13, 07:59 PM
It is winter. Winter air temps can drop the ambient cage temps down and trigger the snake to stop eating. That would be my guess. As an adult ATBs can go off feed for a month or more each winter.

Jason

ah ok thats good to know. Ive covered her cage with a shirt so she doesnt see me when i walk by. You think i should try feeding again?

Jason_Hood
01-04-13, 11:45 PM
I would temp gun the cage and see where the temps are at. You may need to step up the temps depending on how you are heating. Feeding does not need to be pushed if it is an established animal. I would give it some peace and quiet and leave it alone for a week before attempting to feed again. There is no rush.

Jason

Lankyrob
01-05-13, 05:11 AM
As long as you have a decent thermostat then ambient temp drops shouldnt make THAT much difference to the viv (unless it is badly constructed with a lot of air leaks).

Personally even during the "winter break" i offer food on the same schedule and if they dont eat just toss it to someone else :)

poison123
01-15-13, 10:10 PM
Well she finally ate tonight :D gave her a rat pup coverd the cage with a shirt then i heard the rat scream and sure enough she has a big belly :) and shes going through a shed.

Lankyrob
01-16-13, 05:46 AM
There should be constant supervision when feeding live, please dont leave it like that again ~:)

poison123
01-16-13, 08:37 AM
lankyrob, imo a healthy and strong snake will have no problem taking down an adult mouse or a baby rat its when i get to the bigger rats that i start to be more cautious. And if i kept peeking in the cage theres a chance she wouldn't have eaten it.

lady_bug87
01-16-13, 09:22 AM
I also didn't think the risks are the same for arboreal species as they are for terrestrial. Its going to be harder for a rat to hurt a snake that can escape to a safe perch since atbs hunt from above.

poison123
01-16-13, 09:29 AM
^^^ Yep the rat was in a plastic bowl so it could even get out and the atb was up high in her branches so there was really no risk of the rat nibbling on her while she was sleeping.

Lankyrob
01-16-13, 09:34 AM
lankyrob, imo a healthy and strong snake will have no problem taking down an adult mouse or a baby rat its when i get to the bigger rats that i start to be more cautious. And if i kept peeking in the cage theres a chance she wouldn't have eaten it.

Your snake, your choice :) just putting it put there so others that dont realise can see the risk :)

lady_bug87
01-16-13, 11:09 AM
Your snake, your choice :) just putting it put there so others that dont realise can see the risk :)

Seriously?
How after what he posted did you honestly think that your comment is even relevant?

This is another example of how a discussion turns into a diluted waste of time. He didn't ask you about the risks of live feeding. He gave you his method which I think is pretty good. Not to mention that the problem was resolved. It ate.

Honestly I'm starting to think you just like watching your post count increase.

SpOoKy
01-16-13, 12:08 PM
Seriously?
How after what he posted did you honestly think that your comment is even relevant?

This is another example of how a discussion turns into a diluted waste of time. He didn't ask you about the risks of live feeding. He gave you his method which I think is pretty good. Not to mention that the problem was resolved. It ate.

Honestly I'm starting to think you just like watching your post count increase.

In Rob's defence he did state that he was just putting it out there for others.

Your snake, your choice just putting it put there so others that dont realise can see the risk