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Gregg M
12-27-12, 11:05 PM
She is in shed as always. Seems to be a constant thing with her. LOL. She is pretty dirty but you can see she is no normal. And contrary to what some "experts" said would happen, she has not darkend up at all...

As you can see, she is a bit feisty. And check out the color in that eye!!! Reminds me of that Johnny Cash song...

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EmbraceCalamity
12-27-12, 11:12 PM
Wow. She's gorgeous. Congrats on her. :)

~Maggot

BarelyBreathing
12-27-12, 11:16 PM
She's beautiful. I love the last picture where you can see her teeth.

infernalis
12-27-12, 11:44 PM
She's beautiful. I love the last picture where you can see her teeth.

^^^^^^^^This^^^^^

Rogue628
12-28-12, 12:07 AM
She's beautiful!!! I agree! I really love the last pic showing her teeth :)

Pirarucu
12-28-12, 12:35 AM
What a beautiful animal. I am insanely jealous.

Lankyrob
12-28-12, 02:56 AM
What a beautiful animal. I am insanely jealous.

This ^^^^^^^^ :)

alessia55
12-28-12, 07:19 AM
Wow, she's stunning. :Wow:

TragicTaste
12-28-12, 07:21 AM
All of the above!

CK SandBoas
12-28-12, 07:29 AM
What a gorgeous, feisty little lady you got there! :)

MoreliAddict
12-28-12, 08:17 AM
Who would call that a normal? lol

Nice sav..

infernalis
12-28-12, 10:17 AM
Who would call that a normal? lol

Nice sav..

I recall the outburst on KS very well. A certain Mr. Arizona man very boldly and rather certain of himself told Gregg that she was a normal and was also very certain of himself that she would darken up with age.

According to what he said that day, she should be a rich brown colour by now....

Donnie
12-28-12, 11:40 AM
:Wow: What a stunner

jarich
12-28-12, 01:38 PM
I recall the outburst on KS very well. A certain Mr. Arizona man very boldly and rather certain of himself told Gregg that she was a normal and was also very certain of himself that she would darken up with age.

According to what he said that day, she should be a rich brown colour by now....

Hahaha, FR loves to stick that foot in his mouth regularly!

Beautiful monitor Gregg.

Gregg M
12-29-12, 07:52 AM
Thanks everyone!!!

Hahaha, FR loves to stick that foot in his mouth regularly!

Beautiful monitor Gregg.

Funny how he does that so often.

KORBIN5895
12-29-12, 08:58 AM
Those gloves are pretty stylish.;)

StudentoReptile
12-29-12, 10:46 AM
Gregg, answer me something. If this monitor is an albino (amelanistic), I would expect the pupils to be pink as it is with most albino reptiles. But they are black, so at first glance, I would say this animal is hypomelanistic and not amelanistic. I admit my understanding of genetics is limited, but would you care to explain?

Mind you, I'm not saying the animal is exceptional; it certainly is. Just curious, is all.

Pirarucu
12-29-12, 01:45 PM
Amelanistic animals can be either T+ or T-, with T- being the more common. T+ animals are not as bright, as the black pigment is not replaced by white, but by purple or lavender colors. For the same reason, the eyes are often not red, certainly not as red as those of a T-.
It is also entirely possible (and in this case probable in my opinion) that this mutation only affects the scales, but not the eyes. Not all mutations will change every part of the animal. For example, leucistic animals are completely white, except for the eyes.

Gregg M
12-29-12, 09:01 PM
Gregg, answer me something. If this monitor is an albino (amelanistic), I would expect the pupils to be pink as it is with most albino reptiles. But they are black, so at first glance, I would say this animal is hypomelanistic and not amelanistic. I admit my understanding of genetics is limited, but would you care to explain?


What you are talking about is T- albino. The T stands for Tyrosinase. It is an enzyme that synthesizes melanin. In T- albinos, this enzym is not present. In T+ albinos the enzyme is there but synthesization of melanin is reduced. Many T+ reptiles have normalish eyes and have high copper and lavander tones in the skin.

As you can see in the photos, this sav does not have normal eyes. The eyes are bright red with a yellow ring around them.

T+ albinism is a partial albinism. Hypomelanism is more than likely a form of T+ albinism.

Hope this helps clear up some questions.

BarelyBreathing
12-29-12, 09:07 PM
Hypomelanism is more than likely a form of T+ albinism.

I've heard this once or twice before. Has there ever been an in depth study of this before?

Pirarucu
12-29-12, 09:59 PM
I've heard this once or twice before. Has there ever been an in depth study of this before?Not to my knowledge, but I'm not sure.

AjaMichelle
12-29-12, 10:25 PM
She's gorgeous! :)

StudentoReptile
12-30-12, 07:10 AM
Thanks for the reply, Gregg. That does clear up some things.

Gregg M
12-30-12, 11:44 AM
I've heard this once or twice before. Has there ever been an in depth study of this before?

BB, the sad thing is, there is very little in depth studies on reptilian morphs. It is a shame really because I can not think of any other group of animal that has so many different morphs and genetic mutations. In my opinion, reptiles are a gold mine for genetic mutation and morph study.

Thanks for the reply, Gregg. That does clear up some things.

No problem bro. Glad to explain.

BarelyBreathing
12-30-12, 12:56 PM
BB, the sad thing is, there is very little in depth studies on reptilian morphs. It is a shame really because I can not think of any other group of animal that has so many different morphs and genetic mutations. In my opinion, reptiles are a gold mine for genetic mutation and morph study.


Unless you have a ball python. :3eyes:

I completely agree with you there.

DragonsEye
01-03-13, 11:18 AM
She's beautiful. I love the last picture where you can see her teeth.


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