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GUITARZAN509
12-20-12, 10:28 AM
CRAPPY PHONE PICS FOR NOW OF MY COASTAL FEMALE AND MY JUNGLE MALE

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http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn81/pcrawford1044/122002_100200-1.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn81/pcrawford1044/122002_100501-1.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn81/pcrawford1044/122002_100502.jpg
charlesc84
12-20-12, 11:19 AM
Nice snakes. That Coastal looks very Irian Jaya to me...
SWDK
12-20-12, 11:31 AM
Beautiful carpets. I agree with ^...I think that coastal looks like an IJ as well. Could just be the pic.
shaunyboy
12-20-12, 01:28 PM
Nice snakes. That Coastal looks very Irian Jaya to me...


re coastal
i thought it was an Irian Jaya Carpet Python,right from the very first picture

imo you have an Irian and a Jungle mate

both are great looking carpets

cheers shaun
Donnie
12-20-12, 01:34 PM
Very nice carpets, would be good to see some natural day light pictures of them
EmbraceCalamity
12-20-12, 01:54 PM
They're very beautiful. :)

~Maggot
UwabamiReptiles
12-20-12, 11:05 PM
I see ij as well, either way those are two beautiful snakes. You can never go wrong with a carpet.
Terranaut
12-21-12, 05:10 AM
Very nice carpets!!
GUITARZAN509
12-21-12, 08:37 AM
The pattern on the coastal goes all the way down its side plus has the linear stripe down the side ij's have neither, the coastal came from a breeder friend of mine, he has no hybreds, but thx all
GUITARZAN509
12-21-12, 08:40 AM
Yea as i said crappy angle and lighting pics will post better some time
MoreliAddict
12-21-12, 08:48 AM
The pattern on the coastal goes all the way down its side plus has the linear stripe down the side ij's have neither, the coastal came from a breeder friend of mine, he has no hybreds, but thx all
Are you 100% sure of the lineage of each parent?

Typical IJ:
http://ectotherms.net/kyherpsoc/Propagating%20Carpet%20Pythons%20Webpage_files/image006.jpg

Typical Coastal:
http://www.australianaddiction.com/CCP_Fem11-05.jpg
GUITARZAN509
12-21-12, 09:12 AM
Ok first all my apoligies to everyone, after just getting off the phone with my breeder friend she is indeed an ij, so kudos to all you carpet experts, but never the less my male jungle and her could throw some interesting looking offspring ? Im a little dissapointed though was hoping i had at least one carpet that would get in the 7 to 9 foot range , or is there a chance she could, they are the smaller species of carpets correct ? Thx all for your input !
GUITARZAN509
12-21-12, 09:13 AM
Once again i apoligize for doubting all
MoreliAddict
12-21-12, 09:22 AM
Your jungle will likely turn out to be the larger of the two. Jungles generally land somewhere in the 6-7 foot range.

Irian Jayas are a bit smaller, and usually land between 5 and 6 feet as adults.

They're both very pretty snakes either way. :)
UwabamiReptiles
12-21-12, 09:26 AM
As far as size goes, it depends on a lot of things. I have a pure ij female that is just over the 8ft mark. It has to do mostly with their genetics. That being said, 8ft for an ij is not very common. They usually stay within the 5-6ft range. Since the breeder is a friend of yours, ask how big the parents are and that will give you a good indication how big she'll end up for you.
MoreliAddict
12-21-12, 09:30 AM
As far as size goes, it depends on a lot of things. I have a pure ij female that is just over the 8ft mark. It has to do mostly with their genetics. That being said, 8ft for an ij is not very common. They usually stay within the 5-6ft range. Since the breeder is a friend of yours, ask how big the parents are and that will give you a good indication how big she'll end up for you.
Wasn't there some special lineage to that IJ, though??
GUITARZAN509
12-21-12, 09:50 AM
as far as size goes, it depends on a lot of things. I have a pure ij female that is just over the 8ft mark. It has to do mostly with their genetics. That being said, 8ft for an ij is not very common. They usually stay within the 5-6ft range. Since the breeder is a friend of yours, ask how big the parents are and that will give you a good indication how big she'll end up for you.
thank you !
GUITARZAN509
12-21-12, 09:51 AM
your jungle will likely turn out to be the larger of the two. Jungles generally land somewhere in the 6-7 foot range.

Irian jayas are a bit smaller, and usually land between 5 and 6 feet as adults.

They're both very pretty snakes either way. :) thank you for your help
MoreliAddict
12-21-12, 10:10 AM
No problem!
UwabamiReptiles
12-21-12, 10:25 AM
Wasn't there some special lineage to that IJ, though??


I can track her lineage back to wild caught adults that were imported in '94. So she is 100% ij, her parents were a little bigger than normal ijs. Also the guy that had her before me her heavy the first 5 years of her life, that plays a part as well.
shaunyboy
12-21-12, 01:36 PM
The pattern on the coastal goes all the way down its side plus has the linear stripe down the side ij's have neither, the coastal came from a breeder friend of mine, he has no hybreds, but thx all

i'm not being cheeky

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/new%20pictures/P1000723.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/diamond1/irianmale007.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/new%20pictures/P1000712.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/diamond%20tank/P1000252.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/new%20pictures/P1000729.jpg


all of the above are F2 line bred pure Irians,imo Irians have some of the most diverse/varied patterns of all the carpet pythons


cheers shaun
shaunyboy
12-21-12, 01:48 PM
Once again i apoligize for doubting all

no need to apologise mate

carpet genetics are so muddled up at times,the only way to tell is from the breeder who produced them

i only just noticed the post where you found out about it being an Irian,or i would'nt have high jacked your thread with pictures of some of mine

sorry mate

cheers shaun