First breeding season - Questions [Archive]

Strutter769

12-13-12, 07:09 PM

So, after finally another evening of lewd and lascivious behavior (in the front of the cage, for the world to see), the pair I first spotted mating weeks ago are now on opposite ends of the enclosure, (she on the warm end and he, perhaps rightfully so, cooling off on the other. I should also mention she ate a small meal today, he did not.

If I remember correctly, it's a good sign she's on the warm end, correct?

Strutter769

12-13-12, 07:12 PM

Meanwhile, in the other enclosure, the fun never ends for very long. I guess either Linc likes being on the bottom, or she accosted him today!

Strutter769

12-14-12, 02:41 PM

I understand birth takes place 110-120 days POS. My question is, how long after the successful lock should the POS be expected?

Strutter769

12-15-12, 06:05 PM

Are these silly questions?

I need help,please? Anyone? Buehler?

Gungirl

12-15-12, 06:14 PM

I wish I had answers for you Roy.. hopefully someone will come along soon and help you out.

Aaron_S

12-15-12, 07:06 PM

Are these silly questions?

I need help,please? Anyone? Buehler?

Go back to your boa breeding research and reference that. It shall answer your questions.

Strutter769

12-15-12, 07:14 PM

Brilliant! I mean truly, what was I thinking asking a forum such a question? I should just research it! Perfect! Off I go to find the answer!

If you know the answers to these questions, please, by all means, move onto another post. I'm using my other resources to research these on my own.

Strutter769

12-15-12, 07:17 PM

Mods, feel free to delete this post. It's not appropriate to ask in this forum. I need to do research on my own if I'm ever to learn anything.

Aaron_S

12-15-12, 10:46 PM

What the hell are you being all uppity for?

I gave the answer I could only give since I don't breed boas (yet). I have my resources for any questions regarding ball python breeding and it's laid out in writing for me. I've done my homework regarding my endeavours and I would hope that anyone looking to breed would have done the same already.

Strutter769

12-15-12, 11:15 PM

Aaron_S

12-16-12, 12:09 AM

Sorry Aaron. Your answer felt like a scolding for not knowing the answer to such a basic question. I know I need more research, and I'll keep trying to learn what I can, how ever I can. Yes, I should know the answer, but previously all I'd found was from POS to birth, not conception to POS.

I'm not doing my animals business any good by advertising the points I'm still ignorant about anyway.

I'll do more research, privately.

Sorry for the above tantrum.

Conception to POS is usually not tracked. It all depends on the individual female. You won't be able to find it I don't think. Each female ovulates at different times.

I misunderstood your original question.

Strutter769

12-16-12, 12:14 AM

Thanks. I figured it would depend on the particular female, but I thought may be an average, or some sort of expected timeframe.

Aaron_S

12-16-12, 12:15 AM

Thanks. I figured it would depend on the particular female, but I thought may be an average, or some sort of expected timeframe.

Between now and next December :D

Strutter769

12-21-12, 04:00 PM

So, two nights ago I moved the breeding male into the cage with the 1.1 that have been idle for a while, and she has not yet gone into shed. I did this in hopes of creating "competition" and encourage a lock. Well, it worked flawlessly, and the introduced male got right to business.

So, should I remove the incumbent male to another female since he's not busy at the moment, or might that cease the breeding between the other two?

Thanks for reading!

shaunyboy

12-21-12, 05:20 PM

Are these silly questions?

I need help,please? Anyone? Buehler?

they are not silly questions Roy

re carpets
its good to know the average length of time between last observed copulation,to ovulation

also the average length of time between ovulation,and pre lay shed

also the average length of time between pre lay shed,and egg deposition

also the average length of time between laying and hatching

my Carpet Python charts won't be much use to you as its a different species,but its all important and relevant info regards breeding mate

i hope everything goes according to plan for you

cheers shaun

shaunyboy

12-21-12, 05:30 PM

Thanks. I figured it would depend on the particular female, but I thought may be an average, or some sort of expected timeframe.

with Carpet Pythons you get different averages,with different sub species on,copulation to ovulation,ovulation to pre lay shed,pre lay shed to laying,laying to hatching

i just rembered yours will be a litter not a clutch,so i honestly don't know if my info's any use to you mate

cheers shaun

CK SandBoas

12-21-12, 05:34 PM

Roy, i don't have any experience breeding BRB'S, but with my Kenyans, my female started hugging the heat soon after i witnessed numerous locks between her and one of my males. I would remove the incumbent male if there hasn't been action between him and the female that he has been with for a while, he just may not be in the mood, so to speak...

shaunyboy

12-21-12, 05:40 PM

I would remove the incumbent male if there hasn't been action between him and the female that he has been with for a while, he just may not be in the mood, so to speak...

i put my jungle jag,in with my diamond jungle tonight,for the 2nd time in 14 days.....

its my female thats having none of it,she even poo'd on the poor guy tonight (literally) :shocked::laugh:

cheers shaun

EmbraceCalamity

12-21-12, 05:43 PM

Aaron_S

12-21-12, 05:51 PM

Leaving two males in an enclosure with one female sounds like a recipe for disaster. But, eh, maybe that's how things are done in the snake world.

~Maggot

It's fine. Nothing of danger will come of it. Just gotta keep an eye on things.

EmbraceCalamity

12-21-12, 05:54 PM

It's fine. Nothing of danger will come of it. Just gotta keep an eye on things.I thought snakes weren't supposed to be housed together at all?

~Maggot

CK SandBoas

12-21-12, 06:00 PM

I thought snakes weren't supposed to be housed together at all?

~Maggot

Snakes really need to be housed in the same enclosure for breeding purposes, really no way around that, especially if you witness a confirmed lock. If i do not see any action so to speak, i separate the male from the female, offer food, and wait 4-5 days, and introduce the male again.

If i see at least one confirmed lock, i leave the male in with the female until i see that he's lost interest, and then separate them for good

EmbraceCalamity

12-21-12, 06:05 PM

Snakes really need to be housed in the same enclosure for breeding purposes, really no way around that, especially if you witness a confirmed lock. If i do not see any action so to speak, i separate the male from the female, offer food, and wait 4-5 days, and introduce the male again.

If i see at least one confirmed lock, i leave the male in with the female until i see that he's lost interest, and then separate them for goodAh, okay. Thanks.

~Maggot

CK SandBoas

12-21-12, 06:07 PM

Ah, okay. Thanks.

~Maggot

Not a problem, i know when someone doesn't deal with a particular reptile, it can get a little confusing when people tell you it's really not a good thing to house most snake species together, but then because of breeding purposes, we do just that :)

EmbraceCalamity

12-21-12, 06:19 PM

Not a problem, i know when someone doesn't deal with a particular reptile, it can get a little confusing when people tell you it's really not a good thing to house most snake species together, but then because of breeding purposes, we do just that :)I'm more familiar with leopard gecko breeding, and it's pretty much a rule to not house them together even when breeding, and especially not put in two males together. Asking for a bloodbath. But maybe snakes are nicer than leos. XD

~Maggot

CK SandBoas

12-21-12, 06:22 PM

I'm more familiar with leopard gecko breeding, and it's pretty much a rule to not house them together even when breeding, and especially not put in two males together. Asking for a bloodbath. But maybe snakes are nicer than leos. XD

~Maggot

I always keep a close eye on my Kenyans when i've bred them, and i've only put one male in with two females, just to ensure a better chance of getting a litter for the season. :)

EmbraceCalamity

12-21-12, 06:24 PM

I always keep a close eye on my Kenyans when i've bred them, and i've only put one male in with two females, just to ensure a better chance of getting a litter for the season. :)That seems like it would be a less stressful route for the females.

~Maggot

CK SandBoas

12-21-12, 06:27 PM

That seems like it would be a less stressful route for the females.

~Maggot

To me, i would rather do the 1.2 ration when it comes to breeding, because if you put two males in with one female, you still have a chance with only one litter, while the 1 male with 2 females, there's the chance the little stud will do the deed with both, and you get 2 litters out of it!

Aaron_S

12-21-12, 06:33 PM

To me, i would rather do the 1.2 ration when it comes to breeding, because if you put two males in with one female, you still have a chance with only one litter, while the 1 male with 2 females, there's the chance the little stud will do the deed with both, and you get 2 litters out of it!

Some people to the two male thing to just get one going. Usually works.

I plan to toss my rough scales into big bins of 2.2 each. Months later. Pray for babies lol.

CK SandBoas

12-21-12, 06:40 PM

Some people to the two male thing to just get one going. Usually works.

I plan to toss my rough scales into big bins of 2.2 each. Months later. Pray for babies lol.

I'll pray for you too, that you get babies from those!

Strutter769

12-21-12, 11:11 PM

I'm just afraid if I remove the incumbent the stud will again lose interest. Probably not the case, huh?

Aaron_S

12-21-12, 11:22 PM

I'm just afraid if I remove the incumbent the stud will again lose interest. Probably not the case, huh?

If he's been breeding without the introduction of another male then it's safe to say he won't lose his mojo.

Strutter769

12-21-12, 11:40 PM

I took advantage of a break in the action and removed the incumbent male (Gerardo) out and placed him back with an orange, normal female (Gisele) in hopes that his brief journey worked up the hormones.

Oh, and I took some pictures too.

Amaryllis and Linc:

Strutter769

12-21-12, 11:43 PM

Here Are Linc and Gerardo (Dark male) vying for Amaryllis' affection:

Strutter769

12-22-12, 11:52 AM

Well I took out the incumbent last night leaving only these two and this morning she's on the cold end and he on the warm.

I'm guessing it's just coincidence?

Aaron_S

12-22-12, 11:54 AM

Well I took out the incumbent last night leaving only these two and this morning she's on the cold end and he on the warm.

I'm guessing it's just coincidence?

If he was locked up then he's done his deed and is resting.

Strutter769

12-22-12, 01:33 PM

Atta boy, Linc! This would be one very exciting litter, and a helluva way to launch Next Gen Boas, I'd say! :bouncy:

Mark Taylor

12-31-12, 02:19 PM

My male cum in the water bowl 3 days ago, nearly a week after I noticed the female ovulation so I changed the water and removed the male to temporary housing he fed on a large rat, left for 2 days then put back with female but she has not moved from the hot spot for 3 days same time as male did his load in water bowl I know that don't matter were he does his business. So if I have done my research and understood, she should be PUSHING in about a 100 days. Correct me if im wrong.