DiamondxIJ Head Wobble? [Archive] - sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum

SWDK

11-25-12, 02:41 PM

My 2011 female DiamondxIJ is showing signs of neuro in the form of head wobble. I found her today after being lost for 29 days. She was very cold and I immediately noticed the major head wobble as soon as I picked her up. She had no head wobble prior to her escape. I'm hoping its because she's cold and possibly dehydrated. Any thoughts or suggestions?

dinosaurdammit

11-25-12, 02:53 PM

Try and warm her up and raise humidity a bit just incase she wont drink.

marvelfreak

11-25-12, 03:04 PM

She may have gotten injured. Give her a couple days with some heat and try feeding. If after a couple days she still doing it i would take her to a vet to get checked out. Also Diamond IJ do you mean Irain Jaya or Irain Jaya Jaguar? If it's Irain Jaya i would just take her straight to the vet and get her checked as it's only Jaguar that should ever show neurological issues. Keep us updated.

SWDK

11-25-12, 04:13 PM

It's 50% Irian Jaya...no jag in her at all. She's been in her basking spot for a few hours now. I'm going to give her a nice soak in warm water. I think she'll drink and it will hydrate her skin. I'll update again on head wobble after her bath.

SWDK

11-25-12, 06:40 PM

I gave her good soaking and she definitely felt a little better to the touch. The wobble was still there. I'm going to continue daily soaks to help hydrate faster. I've also added a humid hide to the Viv.

marvelfreak

11-25-12, 06:46 PM

Could you get video of it?

SWDK

11-25-12, 07:12 PM

Sure, I can get a video. I'll wait until tomorrow though. I don't want to bother her any more tonight.

marvelfreak

11-25-12, 07:22 PM

Sure, I can get a video. I'll wait until tomorrow though. I don't want to bother her any more tonight.
Yeah wait maybe a good night of heat and rest might help.

shaunyboy

11-26-12, 09:12 AM

could she have come in contact with chemicals ?

over heating and chemicals,are the only thing i can think of,that would cause neuro issues to appear

other than,there being something like an anurism,etc in the brain

only jags carrry neuro issues as a trait in carpet pythons

cheers shun

Terranaut

11-26-12, 09:36 AM

I hope you have quarentined this snake. Probably not a pathogen of any sort but just incase. As said above only jags have a genetic nero issue that can be brought on by chemical exposure. Yours may be dehydrated or suffering some other environmental affects of being out for a while. Wait a week and see what happens. I hope it goes away. I personaly think it will and its just stress or the above. Good luck.

SWDK

11-26-12, 12:05 PM

SWDK

11-26-12, 02:46 PM

I checked on her a few minutes ago and the wobble is not nearly as bad as yesterday. She wobbled less as she calmed down too. I handled her for a few minutes and then put her in for another warm soak. I'm happy to see some improvement.

cossiecraig

11-26-12, 03:16 PM

Good news ,sounds like things are moving in the right direction for her :)

Terranaut

11-26-12, 03:53 PM

Yup great news.

SWDK

11-26-12, 04:10 PM

Thanks everyone. I'm hoping she will continue improving. I was really getting down on myself about her condition because it was my fault she escaped.

marvelfreak

11-26-12, 04:14 PM

Keep us posted on how she is doing please.

SWDK

11-26-12, 04:55 PM

Keep us posted on how she is doing please.

I sure will. I'm going to continue daily soak through the rest of the week. Monday is feeding day for the snakes so Ill try her out then.

shaunyboy

11-28-12, 09:57 AM

I doubt it was chemicals. I keep all my household chemicals in a secure cabinet because of my dogs. She would have had to climb a bare wall and open the cabinet door which has a magnetic latch.

I personally think its from dehydration and stress. Only time will tell though.

Yes, I do have its Viv in a separate room from all my other snakes.

i did not just mean dangerous locked away types of chemical mate

air fresheners,perfumes,house hold type stuff,was what i mean't,sorry i should have been clearer

how bad of a head wobble is it ?

cheers shaun

EmbraceCalamity

11-28-12, 02:11 PM

i did not just mean dangerous locked away types of chemical mate

air fresheners,perfumes,house hold type stuff,was what i mean't,sorry i should have been clearer

how bad of a head wobble is it ?

cheers shaunI've heard of candles doing this kind of thing - to a gecko though. A person's gecko was 'off' (I don't remember specifics, but I want to say it was having seizures of some kind), and they later realised that it was the candles they were burning (which a lot of people don't realise have tons of chemicals in them). I don't burn incense or candles in my room anymore now that I have reptiles in there, and I never use spray cleaners. Sadly, pretty much everything we use and have in our houses has awful chemicals.

~Maggot

SWDK

11-28-12, 02:31 PM

i did not just mean dangerous locked away types of chemical mate

air fresheners,perfumes,house hold type stuff,was what i mean't,sorry i should have been clearer

how bad of a head wobble is it ?

cheers shaun

The head wobble was a swaying side to side motion, a few inches each way. It was only when it was moving and got worse when the head was not supported. Now she moves around and climbs like a normal carpet. I only notice a slight wobble, which is more like a quick head jerk, when I first take her from the Viv. It's definitely improving and I saw her drinking from her water bowl last night. She doesn't have the sucked in look to her as much either. I attribute that to getting her hydration back.

SWDK

11-28-12, 02:34 PM

I've heard of candles doing this kind of thing - to a gecko though. A person's gecko was 'off' (I don't remember specifics, but I want to say it was having seizures of some kind), and they later realised that it was the candles they were burning (which a lot of people don't realise have tons of chemicals in them). I don't burn incense or candles in my room anymore now that I have reptiles in there, and I never use spray cleaners. Sadly, pretty much everything we use and have in our houses has awful chemicals.

~Maggot

For that reason I don't have candles, air fresheners, carpet powders, etc. Like I said earlier, every type if chemical I have is in a secure cabinet. I keep saltwater fish/corals as well and am very cautious of air born pollutants that could get in the water. I even keep the fish tank chemicals in its own secure cabinet.

EmbraceCalamity

11-28-12, 04:07 PM

For that reason I don't have candles, air fresheners, carpet powders, etc. Like I said earlier, every type if chemical I have is in a secure cabinet. I keep saltwater fish/corals as well and am very cautious of air born pollutants that could get in the water. I even keep the fish tank chemicals in its own secure cabinet.I'm not saying that's what it is. I was just pointing out that a lot of things can have dangerous chemicals.

~Maggot

shaunyboy

11-28-12, 04:32 PM

The head wobble was a swaying side to side motion, a few inches each way. It was only when it was moving and got worse when the head was not supported. Now she moves around and climbs like a normal carpet. I only notice a slight wobble, which is more like a quick head jerk, when I first take her from the Viv. It's definitely improving and I saw her drinking from her water bowl last night. She doesn't have the sucked in look to her as much either. I attribute that to getting her hydration back.

sounds like shes making good improvement

neuro signs in snakes are usually down to one of 3 things.....

1.infection

2.toxins

3.metabolic defect/deficiency

also it could be...

head or spine trauma,or over heating

i'm chuffed she's showing improvment mate

cheers shaun

SWDK

11-28-12, 09:55 PM

I'm not saying that's what it is. I was just pointing out that a lot of things can have dangerous chemicals.

~Maggot

I definitely agree.

SWDK

11-29-12, 06:12 PM

She seems to be almost back to 100%. I can't tell if her head movements had a slight twitch or if that's just how she is. Either way she is getting better and I'm happy.