What morph is this corn?

[Reptile45]

Hi all! I have a new to me corn and can't identify the morph. Any help would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks. I know the photo is terrible. Trying a better one

[Reptile45]

Here's a different pic. Still terrible

[Ivalynfyre]

Maybe an anery?

[bushsnake]

Its a ghost corn

[Wyldrose]

Ghost or anery, could we see a belly picture? Look at the belly scales and the lines on the saddles are they black or a grey/brownish color? Black would be anery and the lighter is a ghost. A ghost is anery and hypo. Hypo reduces the black.

[Reptile45]

Wow the genetics confuse me so badly. I'm 90% there's no black. I'm thinking about breeding. I've got a normal, amel, a Miami and this one. Hoping to expand and maybe get some interesting morphs. Thanks for all the replies guys, ill take a pic of the belly and post tonight

[Reptile45]

I zoomed in on the photo with my phone and its white around the saddle. I'll take a pic of belly tonight

[Snakefood]

definately not an anery. I don't think it's a ghost either.

small chance you have an Amber Upper keys, which is selectively bred. But I can't find any pics of the adult, just the hatchling

Amber Upper Keys Corn Snake - Ians Vivarium (http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/amber_upper_keys/?sid=)

Not sure what else to say, there's so much reddish/brown in those saddles!! You may have to do some test breeding to see what genetics make that beauty up!!

[Reptile45]

There is a lot of brown, that's what drew me to the snake. I'd never seen anything like it but my experience is limited. I am in west palm so not terribly far from the keys. I'll have to have the snake probed and see what my breeding possibilities are.

[Wyldrose]

I don't see any caramel at all in that one. As caramels get older they get more golden yellow color. Anything with caramel in starts out very brown. Amber is caramel + hypo.

I'm betting it's a ghost, they can vary in shade a lot from really grey to really pink.
Ghost: Ghost Corn Snake - Ians Vivarium (http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/ghost/?sid=)

Charcoal is another possiblity : Charcoal Corn Snake - Ians Vivarium (http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/charcoal/?sid=)
There is no yellow on the sides of the head are there? Charcoals usually have little to no yellow.

[Snakefood]

I have yet to see either a ghost or a charcoal put out brown saddles like that, only ever saw them put out shades of gray.

[Reptile45]

Hey all, finally back from work. Took some new pics. There's no black whatsoever. The snake is a long way from being breedable, much too young. Here are some of the new pics. Anyways I'm gonna make plans for in a year or two to breed. Any tips to help nail down what morph this guy is? Right now I have a normal, amel, and a miami. Gonna have to get this guy probed to see who its compatible with but plenty of time to expand my collection.

[Snakefood]

where did the brown go???? was it just the lighting????

if you had posted those pics first, I would have agreed with the ghost or something along those lines, seems very light for an anery (either A or B)

[Reptile45]

I think the white background made it look washed out. The snake definitely looks brown to my eyes. I showed the snake to my fiance to get an independent eye and she said light brown or caramel saddles on a gray background. I'm uploading a video to youtube now. Will post a link soon

[Snakefood]

ya, I saw almost a reddish brown saddles.

caramel in an adult corn would show up far more yellow, but in a hatchling or yearling more brownish.

really, in order to find out what it is, you may need to try more than one mating. possibly anery A or charcoal (anery B), possibly caramel, possibly the upper keys selective bred that I mentioned.

So hard to start with an unknown quantity, especially when you are thinking of future breeding projects.

[Wyldrose]

I didn't see much brown/yellow on him in the pics.
Here's my caramel diffused hatchling hatched July 7/12:
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/Pharfly/011-27.jpg
My anery motley has the same brownish look to her:
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/Pharfly/021-25.jpg
Since the OP's snake has no black it looks like Hypo is in there too.

I would breed him/her to a ghost (anery+ hypo) or a hypo.

[bushsnake]

your snake(ghost morph) is compatible with hypo, anerys, ghosts, het hypo, het anery and het ghost. (Thats not a phantom which is a hypo anery b)
if bred to a hypo you will get all hypos het anery
if bred to an anery you will get all anerys het hypo
if bred to a ghost you will get all ghosts
if bred to a het hypo you will get 50% hypos the normals will be het ghost
if bred to a het anery you will get 50% anerys the normals will be het ghost
if bred to a het ghost you will get 50% ghost and the normals will be het ghost
if you breed it to a normal you will get normals that are double het hypo and anery.
OTHER:if you bred it to a snow you would get all anerys het albino and hypo