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Wildside
11-06-12, 10:22 AM
This seems like a good time to open a discussion about having patience regarding our hobby. I have seen quite a few people downright kill their reptiles for no other reason than their own personal lack of patience. Caring for your reptile is not something that needs to be done in comparison to how you would feel.

Reptiles don't feel the same as us and they have very different requirements for survival. They can go for months without eating and will under certain circumstances. Unlike newborn human babies who need food quickly to begin thriving, cold blooded animals need other things. Proper temperatures and humidity come high above food, why else do you think they refuse to eat upon being placed in an improper environment? IMO adequate cover/safety is highest on their life support list. It's immediate instinct for reptiles to hide upon birth else they will end up as prey. These factors must all come together before a reptile can even think about eating.

My point is people need to stop comparing their own needs to their reptiles. For example, just because you would be starving after a certain amount of time doesn't mean they are. The fact that you would be uncomfortable doesn't mean it's time to resort to force/assist feeding. If you get the proper environment down, with a good amount of security then healthy ones will begin to eat on their own in time, maybe more time than you're allotting. There is absolutely no need to stress them with multiple feeding and handling attempts. This will only decrease their chances for survival. Take it slow, give some thought to the animal you are caring for and more often than not everyone will end up happy and healthy.

lady_bug87
11-06-12, 11:04 AM
Very well put I agree

BarelyBreathing
11-06-12, 11:04 AM
Great post!

And remember, the average time it takes a reptile to adjust to a new environment is about two weeks. This means that you don't handle the animal, AT ALL, for two weeks. This also means that your animal may not eat, or may eat very little in this adjustment time.

Lankyrob
11-06-12, 11:10 AM
Good post, i always remind people of Shauny's carpet that went (i think) TEN MONTHS from the egg without food yet is a perfectly healthy adult snake now :)

Gungirl
11-06-12, 12:01 PM
I am very happy to see a thread about this issue. I can only hope that those lacking Patience read it, realize what they have done and take action to better the care they give to their pets.

Donnie
11-06-12, 01:00 PM
Good post, i always remind people of Shauny's carpet that went (i think) TEN MONTHS from the egg without food yet is a perfectly healthy adult snake now :)

^^^^^^^ this is what I always remember as well. If a newborn can survive for this long then in most cases there will be plenty of time to get feeding again. As long as people make sure that the husbandry is correct, keep a close eye on the condition of the snake and make sure there is no dramatic weight loss then in good time things should get better.

EmbraceCalamity
11-06-12, 02:29 PM
This needs to be stickied. :)

~Maggot

marvelfreak
11-06-12, 07:16 PM
Well put young Grasshopper.

CK SandBoas
11-06-12, 07:22 PM
Excellent post! :)

TragicTaste
11-06-12, 07:35 PM
Well said.

Jay
11-06-12, 07:42 PM
Right on wildside.

infernalis
11-06-12, 09:56 PM
Yes, keep it civil and I will sticky it.

jaleely
11-06-12, 11:38 PM
Good post. Def sticky. Close it now if you have to *lol*

KORBIN5895
11-07-12, 01:17 AM
Okay. Who hacked wildside's account?

Terranaut
11-07-12, 03:25 AM
I am glad this is stickied. I hope people understand it and follow it.

Wildside
11-07-12, 07:15 AM
Okay. Who hacked wildside's account?

Why would you say that?

KORBIN5895
11-07-12, 07:23 AM
Why would you say that?

Because there was absolutely no joke in that post.... you always say something to make me giggle.

Wildside
11-07-12, 07:25 AM
Because there was absolutely no joke in that post.... you always say something to make me giggle.

Sometimes even the Wildside has to get down on the business end of things ;)

shaunyboy
11-07-12, 08:02 AM
Good post, i always remind people of Shauny's carpet that went (i think) TEN MONTHS from the egg without food yet is a perfectly healthy adult snake now :)

yes mate it was 10 months she went before her feeding response kicked in...

she has never missed a single feed since

its the Copper Jaguar Carpet Python i'm talking about

as a hatchling
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/rose.jpg

now
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/new%20pictures/P1000756.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/new%20pictures/P1000754.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/new%20pictures/P1000731.jpg
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq17/spilota01/diamond1/P1000229.jpg

^^^^^
in the last picture you can see a piece of retained shed,on the tip of her tail,it was removed after i noticed it

cheers shaun

infernalis
11-07-12, 08:21 AM
I had a litter of milk snake babies that would not eat until I brumated them.

I placed them in my basement in a cool dark corner for a few weeks, then I brought them upstairs and warmed them back up, presto - later that day they all took an extra small pinkie.

In all it was almost half a year before these babies had interest in feeding.

Did not lose one.. I sold all of them but one, and he's still doing great. What a slow growing species too, That snake is 4 years old and just now takes rat pinkies.

Patience... is a good thing.

People who molest their animals constantly are stressing the poor reptiles to death.
mo·lest. 1. To disturb, interfere with, or annoy.

BarelyBreathing
11-07-12, 12:03 PM
That's an amazing snake, Shaun.