Introduction Of The Water Dragons. [Archive]

War Machine

10-31-12, 05:40 PM

Well, Figured i'd post up my clan here.

This is my Juvenile Male. No name :P 12-13 months old, 33" long, and 8 3/4" SVL

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_0798.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_0522.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_0858.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_0862.jpg

He is housed alone in this for now

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/391909_323429251014323_1993442981_n.jpg

Going into this eventually

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_0549-1.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_0547-1.jpg

Here is a link detailing the build.

Even Bigger Water Dragon Tank. ALL CWD owners, read. (http://www.reptileforums.net/forums/showthread.php?87185-Even-Bigger-Water-Dragon-Tank.-ALL-CWD-owners-read).

War Machine

10-31-12, 05:43 PM

And this is my grow up pair to house with the male when of size.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_0724.jpg

Housed in this

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_0762.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_0760.jpg

Here is a good read, and a different take on WD care if you're interested.

The Water Dragon Experiment. (http://www.reptileforums.net/forums/showthread.php?88521-The-Water-Dragon-Experiment).

Well, thats my clan :) Enjoy.

Pareeeee

10-31-12, 06:12 PM

So...you are in the business of making and SELLING those enclosures, right? Amazing job on them. And gorgeous lizards as well!

Wildside

10-31-12, 06:16 PM

Awesome! So glad to have a fellow CWD lover on here!

Lankyrob

10-31-12, 06:17 PM

Beuatiful lizards and enclosures :)

UwabamiReptiles

11-01-12, 06:40 AM

Your water dragons and enclosures look great!

Trent

11-01-12, 07:55 AM

Great vivs!!

Lankyrob

11-01-12, 11:02 AM

Dont know much about these guys, do they use the water a lot?

Wildside

11-02-12, 08:42 AM

Well they ain't called water dragons cuz they like sand :rolleyes:

Lankyrob

11-02-12, 08:54 AM

Well they ain't called water dragons cuz they like sand :rolleyes:

Wow, you are sooooo helpful :no:

Wildside

11-02-12, 08:56 AM

Lolol!!!!!!!

VanessaReid

11-02-12, 10:38 AM

Cute dragons! And wow,your enclosures are stunning!!

War Machine

11-02-12, 03:59 PM

Dont know much about these guys, do they use the water a lot?

Believe it or not, no.

A water dragons main "defense" is water. They hang above bodies of water incase of predators, they dive and sink at the bottom until its safe.

My male is rarely in the water, only to dive and take a shot at the fish in there lol

The pair, I've yet to see them in the water, but they use it. Notice how its right under their basking spot? Security, and increase in humidity. Evaporation on large amounts of water is key.

Lankyrob

11-03-12, 07:11 AM

Believe it or not, no.

A water dragons main "defense" is water. They hang above bodies of water incase of predators, they dive and sink at the bottom until its safe.

My male is rarely in the water, only to dive and take a shot at the fish in there lol

The pair, I've yet to see them in the water, but they use it. Notice how its right under their basking spot? Security, and increase in humidity. Evaporation on large amounts of water is key.

Thanks for the "proper" response to my question - good to know :)

War Machine

11-19-12, 08:29 PM

So it's been a month now, with the young pair, and both war and grow like weeds, 20 crickets a day each, and they've grown 2" in length.

You can see how well they're eating, this was twig a month ago.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_0704.jpg

And yesterday.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/image-43.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/image-44.jpg

Unlimited diet, hands off, varanid temperatures. Working well.

Gungirl

11-19-12, 08:51 PM

That is a great improvement.. congrats!

Lankyrob

11-20-12, 06:26 AM

That is an amazing improvement :)

marvelfreak

11-20-12, 06:29 AM

Doesn't even look like the same WD. Looks so much healthier now good job.

Wildside

11-20-12, 10:02 AM

Awesome! :yes:

War Machine

11-26-12, 06:26 PM

Here is a video for you guys, you can see how forward twig is.

3.5 Month Old Water Dragons. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__yrSLe-qqs&feature=plcp)

War Machine

11-28-12, 05:38 PM

so after a year they say water dragons will wean their diet down... Not for this guy.

He cranks 25-30 crickets, and 3-4 nightcrawlers daily.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1112.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1110.jpg

Gungirl

11-28-12, 05:40 PM

He is stunning! Love the burnt orange tones on his chest.

Wildside

11-28-12, 05:46 PM

I've never seen one wean it's diet down :suspicious:

War Machine

11-28-12, 06:01 PM

Wildside

11-28-12, 06:04 PM

I read it somewhere on tricias site I think. Anywho, this is her diet sheet. I know its a rough guide, but just another reason why I think her site is bogus.

The diet of Chinese water dragons (lizard, insect, cricket, meal worm, earthworm, pinkie, fuzzie, fish, vitamin, mineral, calcium) (http://www.triciaswaterdragon.com/diet.htm)

Mine are pigs! Mine won't eat live fish but they love shrimp. They'll eat any bug I throw in, except those beetles that superworms turn into (I haven't found anything that eats those). Also, I feed them hopper mice. They love mice the best.

War Machine

11-28-12, 06:08 PM

Wildside

11-28-12, 06:25 PM

yeah, I don't think her diets are accurate.

I'd love to see your dragons and setup, wildside.

My guys loves fish, he goes crazy, here is a video lol

Water Dragon, Banana's For Fish. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvA7dghIhoU&feature=g-upl)

I've stopped feeding superworms to all my animals, they're not really beneficial,

The monitors get rats, nightcrawlers and fish. THe dragons get crickets, nightcrawlers, fish, and pinky rats.

Thats about it for now, I'm trying to find a good source for shrimp, snails etcs.

Best source for shrimp is the grocery store :D

My setup is nothing fancy. Just a 125 gal tank with two perches and a big water dish. I don't post many pics of them because they have issues from previous owners. I kinda "rescued" them, but I don't like to wave the "I rescued a herp" flag because I didn't really know what I was doing when I took them on. I've gotten two successful clutches out of them though. Fresh hatched baby cwd's are the cutest critters ever. I'll post a few pics after while or tomorrow.

War Machine

11-28-12, 06:43 PM

Best source for shrimp is the grocery store :D

My setup is nothing fancy. Just a 125 gal tank with two perches and a big water dish. I don't post many pics of them because they have issues from previous owners. I kinda "rescued" them, but I don't like to wave the "I rescued a herp" flag because I didn't really know what I was doing when I took them on. I've gotten two successful clutches out of them though. Fresh hatched baby cwd's are the cutest critters ever. I'll post a few pics after while or tomorrow.

thats fantastic.

Hopefully next year I can prove some well bred babies.

No real rush, I need healthy adults first :)

Wildside

11-28-12, 06:51 PM

thats fantastic.

Hopefully next year I can prove some well bred babies.

No real rush, I need healthy adults first :)

You will want to watch very very very closely when it comes time to lay eggs. The males stay on top of them and then try to eat the eggs.

BTW not sure if you know but their bite, kills! Rayden got a hold of me one day and it was like having a tiny pit bull jerking on my hand.

War Machine

11-28-12, 07:12 PM

You will want to watch very very very closely when it comes time to lay eggs. The males stay on top of them and then try to eat the eggs.

BTW not sure if you know but their bite, kills! Rayden got a hold of me one day and it was like having a tiny pit bull jerking on my hand.

I've only been bitten by my adult out of feeding response, It was a stinger.

I caught a few latches from my monitors, and its certainly not fun lol.

I have yet to post my adult enclosure on this forum I think, But I have a monster tank in the works lol

7' long, 7' tall, and 3' deep. I'll be working on it this weekend, maybe I'll post it up...

Wildside

11-28-12, 09:10 PM

Female "Dez"
http://i65.servimg.com/u/f65/14/05/59/04/dez10.jpg

Male "Rayden"
http://i65.servimg.com/u/f65/14/05/59/04/rayden10.jpg

War Machine

12-05-12, 06:38 PM

Nice dragons, Ashame about their snouts though, Too bad you couldn't have stepped in sooner.

Have you thought about switching to a deeper dirt/sand mix substrate? it works wonders for humidity.

Here are some pics of my two, Both have a steady appetite, both are very forwarding at feeding time, charging me every time. Its too the point where they just take turns dipping from the bowl lol

20-25 crickets each daily.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1212.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1220.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/WD.jpg

You can really see the growth since i've had them in 6 weeks.

beardeds4life

12-05-12, 10:38 PM

I love the first pic. I wish I had the space for a larger lizard

Wildside

12-06-12, 02:13 PM

Kiljosh

12-07-12, 08:18 AM

Really nice water dragons. It's great to see these so well cared for.

War Machine

12-21-12, 01:21 PM

More nonsense from my losers :)

Water Dragon Update. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JbCGfDJ0fI&feature=youtu.be)

War Machine

12-23-12, 07:23 PM

Physical update:

Twig:

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1397_zpsd8588376.jpg

Handicap, finally shedding everything! he/she looks great!

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1393_zpsfb02c3e9.jpg

And of course, I am hanging out with my main man right now

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1405_zps707010f7.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1403_zps3b8855a1.jpg

Such a looker :P

Lankyrob

12-24-12, 05:29 AM

Beautiful lizards :)

beardeds4life

12-24-12, 10:21 AM

I agree. I want one...

dinosaurdammit

12-24-12, 10:24 AM

My male doesnt have as long a snout. He also is more stocky and brutish :C

War Machine

12-24-12, 10:26 AM

My male doesnt have as long a snout. He also is more stocky and brutish :C

Common with poor calcium intake, their jaws don't develop fully, or snout rub/mouth rot issues, leaving them with blunt faces. And my male isn't done growing, still a baby lol He'll get thicker still.

dinosaurdammit

12-24-12, 02:57 PM

Common with poor calcium intake, their jaws don't develop fully, or snout rub/mouth rot issues, leaving them with blunt faces. And my male isn't done growing, still a baby lol He'll get thicker still.

I got my pair as a rescue, the female had a really bad case of MBD when i got her, she is doing a lot better now though :/

War Machine

01-14-13, 05:21 PM

Just some photo updates.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1602_zps2c1d3f97.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1608_zps3501dc9c.jpg

h3h

01-14-13, 08:45 PM

Glad you bumped it, because I missed it. These are super cool! I want to hold one...I'm jealous.

- h3

poison123

01-14-13, 09:13 PM

So im guessing you have a for sure male?

EmbraceCalamity

01-14-13, 09:51 PM

I'm so jealous of you. Dude, you have a dinosaur sitting on your bed. It doesn't get any cooler than that.

So do you not have to worry about them breeding when housed together?

~Maggot

infernalis

01-14-13, 11:00 PM

I'm so jealous of you. Dude, you have a dinosaur sitting on your bed. It doesn't get any cooler than that.

~Maggot

.......Agreed...:cool:

http://www.chompersite.com/indoors/images/chomp2.jpg

EmbraceCalamity

01-14-13, 11:03 PM

But water dragons have awesome crests and beautiful colors, so they win. :p

~Maggot

infernalis

01-14-13, 11:15 PM

But water dragons have awesome crests and beautiful colors, so they win. :p

~Maggot

No argument here, they remind me of little Iguanas.

War Machine

01-15-13, 05:16 AM

I'm so jealous of you. Dude, you have a dinosaur sitting on your bed. It doesn't get any cooler than that.

So do you not have to worry about them breeding when housed together?

~Maggot

Thats my goal.

And poison, im not sure if twig is a male, she looks identical to how my female did at this age. so we'll see.

EmbraceCalamity

01-15-13, 11:23 AM

Thats my goal.

And poison, im not sure if twig is a male, she looks identical to how my female did at this age. so we'll see.What are you gonna do with the babies?

~Maggot

War Machine

01-15-13, 07:59 PM

It may seem cruel, but I'm not comfortable letting babies go, just to be housed improperly and be tortured.

So my goal is just to get the egg laying process down pat, then I will most likely feed the developed, fertile eggs to the monitors. A treat for them, and no strain on the female dragons.

EmbraceCalamity

01-15-13, 08:08 PM

Azulafan199

01-22-13, 09:54 PM

Wow amazing homes and beautiful lizards.

War Machine

01-28-13, 05:55 PM

Thank you.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1677_zps3b41c07c.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1681_zps062dd729.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1683_zps58607e55.jpg

They're growing fast. They're eating adult crickets now.

War Machine

02-01-13, 07:04 PM

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1707_zps02774298.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1711_zps7f9e61fc.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1713_zps669654a2.jpg

:)

infernalis

02-01-13, 08:28 PM

wow.... any lizard would be lucky living in your care..

War Machine

02-01-13, 08:37 PM

Thanks wayne, I've been slacking on their enclosure, been so busy with the car, leased a new workshop and trying to get a side business going lol I'll get around to it though, then they can all house together.

Laery

02-11-13, 05:00 PM

Gorgeous dragons! Just got our first CWD this weekend.... Very excited to customize his enclosure!

War Machine

03-07-13, 05:08 PM

He keeps growingggg and growwwinggg lol

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1857_zpsc3eeb7c1.jpg

War Machine

03-12-13, 07:15 PM

Photo Update. Nothing new, still eating like pigs. I've not had one issue with these two. In a matter of two weeks, Twig has grown quite the crest...

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1920_zpsb10d084d.jpg

The Handicapable.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1918_zpse7f4f9c7.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z197/VolcomDub/IMG_1922_zps70dc9f99.jpg