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ok so im think about getting a new pet and i think i wanna get a bearded dragon and i would like to know what i should get for the his/her new home where to start.... hmmm
so far
white sand
water/food dish
thermometer
sand scoop
logs
dome for light
what am i missing?
Gungirl
10-23-12, 05:36 PM
A good base.. Do not use sand. Use ceramic Tile.. much much better.
Ivalynfyre
10-23-12, 06:02 PM
Sand can cause impaction in reptiles.
Start with doing research...
Missster Snake
10-23-12, 06:15 PM
Calcium with and without d3
I personally don't have a problem with sand my beardys have always been on sand but it can impact them which is very serious so if you use sand you must take caution when feeding bc that's when they will eat sand I take my beardy out and feed him in a container
You need a uv bulb and a heat lamp I have a 4x3x3 wooden cage and I use a 75 w basking bulb and a 4 foot uv strip light but depending on you cage and age of the animal will determine your bulb size and watts
Also be ready with mixed greens mine eats a bowl full every day sprinkled with calcum and 3 doz crickets 2 times a week but mine is a very big adult so that also factors on how much they eat
KORBIN5895
10-23-12, 06:18 PM
Sand can cause impaction in reptiles.
Start with doing research...
Maybe you should follow your own advice before posting. That way you won't look so foolish when you try to correct someone by using incorrect information.
KORBIN5895
10-23-12, 06:20 PM
Calcium with and without d3
I personally don't have a problem with sand my beardys have always been on sand but it can impact them which is very serious so if you use sand you must take caution when feeding bc that's when they will eat sand I take my beardy out and feed him in a container
You need a uv bulb and a heat lamp I have a 4x3x3 wooden cage and I use a 75 w basking bulb and a 4 foot uv strip light but depending on you cage and age of the animal will determine your bulb size and watts
Also be ready with mixed greens mine eats a bowl full every day sprinkled with calcum and 3 doz crickets 2 times a week but mine is a very big adult so that also factors on how much they eat
Calcium everyday sounds like a lot. I was under the impression that too much calcium was a bad thing.
so i was looking at the calcium sprays and i was wonding if the calcium mixed millwarms... would work the same way?
Ivalynfyre
10-23-12, 06:28 PM
Maybe you should follow your own advice before posting. That way you won't look so foolish when you try to correct someone by using incorrect information.
Hmm? I'm using incorrect information? Sand doesn't cause impaction?
Please, tell me what I'm saying that's incorrect, and tell me what is really right. ..
ivalynfyre shut up im am reseaching and have been all day but its always good to eat more help from other people by asking hadnt got to the sand part yet mr smart pants
KORBIN5895
10-23-12, 07:01 PM
Curb it pink.
KORBIN5895
10-23-12, 07:06 PM
There's nothing wrong with actual sand (not Calci-sand) for certain species of reptiles. Sand alone doesn't cause impaction. Dehydration does.
Now fyre read that thread an do some research before commenting.
Ivalynfyre
10-23-12, 07:18 PM
I was under the impression that sand alone would cause impaction.. thank you for correcting me.
I did a small amount of research on beardeds and leos when I was interested in them.. I guess my memory isn't as good as I thought it was, because I recall the majority of the things I read to say sand alone was the cause of impaction.
KORBIN5895
10-23-12, 07:29 PM
Yeah well most info on the internet is based on very little experience. It's mainly people just parroting what they were told. I have seen whole websites on frog care written by people that had next to nothing for experience with the frogs. You will have to learn two things: First learn to really research and pick through the chaff ( there is a lot of chaff out there). Secondly learn to correct people with courtesy if you really don't know what you are talking about.
Missster Snake
10-23-12, 07:45 PM
Calcium everyday sounds like a lot. I was under the impression that too much calcium was a bad thing.
Sorry Im doing this on my phone and wasn't trying to write a whole book lol but specifically the calcium regiment I use is cal with d3 twice a month on crickets and cal without d3 every other feeding on lettuce I've raised my beardy like this from the time he was a baby and now he's very big and I've never had any health problems.
Ivalynfyre
10-23-12, 07:47 PM
Will do both.. I think I'm better at researching now, I was think about beardies and leos around this time last year. I was a much, well, stupid-er reptile noob then...
Anyways, sorry iiPink, next time I correct someone I'll be sure to know what I'm talking about and do it in a less rude way. :sorry: I'm pretty embarrassed now..
KORBIN5895
10-23-12, 07:47 PM
That's why I asked. I don't really like animals that need a lot of supplements or extras. I am ignorant on most lizards and just wanted to ask.
KORBIN5895
10-23-12, 07:50 PM
Will do both.. I think I'm better at researching now, I was think about beardies and leos around this time last year. I was a much, well, stupid-er reptile noob then...
Anyways, sorry iiPink, next time I correct someone I'll be sure to know what I'm talking about and do it in a less rude way. :sorry: I'm pretty embarrassed now..
Lol. I was here three weeks when I got my ears pinned for being ignorant and rude. You have been seasoned and if you truly learn you will help many people. Good luck and question everything. Especially the status quo.
jaleely
10-23-12, 08:13 PM
just a quick scroll through and didn't read all the posts...lol yeah i'm being one of "those" today.
Do bearded dragons live on sand in the wild? i know sand boas do, as well as hognose snakes. What other critter lives on sand?
Oh and sand or not, that fake sand crap , the calcium sand or whatever is horrible stuff. stay away from that.
KORBIN5895
10-23-12, 09:26 PM
just a quick scroll through and didn't read all the posts...lol yeah i'm being one of "those" today.
Do bearded dragons live on sand in the wild? i know sand boas do, as well as hognose snakes. What other critter lives on sand?
Oh and sand or not, that fake sand crap , the calcium sand or whatever is horrible stuff. stay away from that.
Plus one for honesty. Plus three for a great recap.
KORBIN5895
10-23-12, 09:47 PM
lol so no sand then...
Did you actually read the post I quoted?
after reading your and looking at other websites about them eating on top of the said and stuff i desided not to use it just a pick and yes i did read it :D im still reading around.
any who moving on thinking about getting this but not sure i think i may just go head and make my own...
http://www.reptiles.swelluk.com/img/shop/original/Combo_Tobacco_Walnut36.jpg
and to anyone who owns a beardie already that has them in a glass tank i would like to get some input on what they do to keep them from being streed out?
Originally Posted by BarelyBreathing
There's nothing wrong with actual sand (not Calci-sand) for certain species of reptiles. Sand alone doesn't cause impaction. Dehydration does.
see i read it ;P
Valvaren
10-24-12, 07:46 AM
They live on rocky hard packed terrain in the wild, with possibly some areas with little puddles of sand, they do NOT live in a desert.
Also Calcium for babies should be dusted one meal a day for 5 days of the week and multivitamin 2 days of the week one meal, I did calcium mon to fri and multi on weekends.
Be prepared beardies eat ALOT and it can get pricey depending on where you get your crickets. I was spending 30 a week for my baby and I wasn't feeding enough, I went into my bearded dragon very stupidly but we made it through, please make sure you have everything 200% perfect and understand the cost you are looking at before you get an animal.
Also besides crickets being expensive depending on how much your little fellow will eat in greens it might get pricey unless you like what buy as well, there might be a lot of waste.
StudentoReptile
10-24-12, 07:55 AM
Here's an interview John F. Taylor did with Dr. Sprackland, concerning calcium supplements in herps. Very good read if you take the time to download the PDF:
Dr. Robert G. Sprackland author of such books as Giant Lizards & Guide to Lizards as well as being the Managing Editor of Herpetoculture House Magazine was kind enough to sit down & discuss with us the reality of not just calcium and dietary needs but also dispelling some of the myths behind calcium, lighting, and UVB. We offer this in depth report to for download so that you may learn from one of the true icons in the realm of herpetology and herpetoculture.
Solving the Calcium Conundrum With Dr. Robert G. Sprackland - Reptile Apartment (http://reptileapartment.com/2010/09/18/solving-the-calcium-conundrum/)
StudentoReptile
10-24-12, 07:56 AM
For the record...I rarely offer calcium supplements (or any other "reptile" vitamins) to any of my herps, and haven't for years.
KORBIN5895
10-24-12, 08:40 AM
Here's an interview John F. Taylor did with Dr. Sprackland, concerning calcium supplements in herps. Very good read if you take the time to download the PDF:
Solving the Calcium Conundrum With Dr. Robert G. Sprackland - Reptile Apartment (http://reptileapartment.com/2010/09/18/solving-the-calcium-conundrum/)
Thanks for this! I will definitely read it.
@ open
Also look into starting a roach colony.
Valvaren
10-24-12, 03:22 PM
I offered and never had a negative affect, I always monitored her urates and over all health/weight, on the other hand I've seen animals that were a mess but then recovered with the addition of supplements to their diet.
Terranaut
10-24-12, 05:44 PM
I personaly use tile. Not because of impaction but because it takes 10 min to remove it clean it and replace it. Good luck cleaning sand that fast. And for $11 I have substrate for ever. I give calcium twice a week on veggies and give roaches on those days but do not put calcium on them. I also give the odd roach as a treat. I use a uv tube(not a bulb type) that I replace every 6 months (uv10) I use one basking bulb and have it set proper distance to make a 120 degree basking spot. Other side of the tank is 82-85. No heat at night other than room which is 72-75. I found a food guide using google that is great. If anyone disagrees with my husbandry please feel free to correct me as I am open to new ideas.
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