please help me ID my racer snake

[shuga]

i bought it from a pet store
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[Ragnar]

Im pretty good at IDing racers but unfortunately I seem to lack some requirement to view the images you've attached. If you can upload them to like imgur.com and then link them here, I can try to help

[MoreliAddict]

I can see the images fine although I'm not great with colubrids.

Be patient till Wayne sees this later today, he'll ID it in 2 seconds.

[Ragnar]

Your snake resembles an antiguan racer in color and markings, but it's snout looks a bit too blunt - though that could just be the angle of the picture

[Ragnar]

I can see the images fine although I'm not great with colubrids.

Be patient till Wayne sees this later today, he'll ID it in 2 seconds.

Yea I see the pics fine now. I must have been upgraded to a full member of ssnakess!

[Ragnar]

Actually, that guy looks pretty small. I bet he's a juvie and still has those misleading colors and markings the young ones have. Lemme consult google real quick!

[shuga]

thank you for the responses. it was labeled as an Egyptian flowered racer, but the markings dont look right according to images ive seen online. IMO the markings look more like a Rogers racer. I named it Zeppelin. IDK if personality will be helpful in the ID,but its super friendly, active, curious and alert.

[Ragnar]

Here is a picture of a juvie black racer

http://www.virginiaherpetologicalsociety.com/images-misc/ID_northernblackracer_juvenile.jpg


And another black racer that has reached adulthood

http://www.virginiaherpetologicalsociety.com/reptiles/snakes/northern-black-racer/Northern%20Black%20Racer%20(Coluber%20constrictor% 20constrictor)009993.JPG


That juvie black racer looks pretty identical to yours

[shuga]

Actually, that guy looks pretty small. I bet he's a juvie and still has those misleading colors and markings the young ones have. Lemme consult google real quick!
yes, its still a baby

[shuga]

I can see the images fine although I'm not great with colubrids.

Be patient till Wayne sees this later today, he'll ID it in 2 seconds.

thank you!

[Ragnar]

yes, its still a baby

My guess is a juvi black racer, but I'll be the first to admit I'm no expert at IDing the young ones, lol. Their colors change so drastically as they age

[bushsnake]

Black racers are from the U.S. thats an african species

[Ragnar]

Black racers are from the U.S. thats an african species

What about it visually lets you know it's african? Honest question btw, I'd like to learn something new

[shuga]

Thank you all for the help! i have an ID now, it is definitely a Rogers racer, an egyptian racer.

[Jason_Hood]

Looks like one of the Diadem racers. Hard to tell in the pics which one.

Jason

[Jason_Hood]

And just to throw it out there, you should never pick up a snake you can't ID. I suffered from more guts than knowledge back around my late teens early 20's and I managed to get tagged by 3 different mildly venomous snakes in 2 different pet stores in Ma and NH. Got hit in Fitchburg and Nashua by snakes I couldn't ID and got lucky to have no real problems beyond some minor swelling. Since then I have seen some fairly significantly venomous colubrids in stores for sale and more often than not the staff has no clue. In this age of smart phones look it up!!

Jason