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infernalis
09-22-12, 09:13 AM
While channel surfing just now, we stumbled on a childrens show on Disney called "Jessie" and the episode is called "The secret life of Mr. Kipling"

Normally would not watch somthing like this, but a Varanid as the star of the show has me sitting here watching this junk.

The Reptile Zoo: Bits & Bites | Frank is a STAR! Watch him on the Disney special "Jessie"! (http://blog.thereptilezoo.com/post/Frank-is-a-STAR!-Watch-him-on-the-Disney-special-Jessie!.aspx)

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Ivalynfyre
09-22-12, 01:43 PM
I went to Los Angeles for my birthday one weekend, and went to Prehistoric Pets because it was only a 40-50 minute drive away. I saw the monitor in person and he didn't look to be in the best condition..
Pirarucu
09-22-12, 01:47 PM
Seen so much of this monitor already.. From what I have seen of PP's videos, neither him or any of their other salvators have proper heating or caging.
Aaron_S
09-22-12, 01:53 PM
My daughter loves that show. At the very least it shows a large monitor as a "friendly" pet. I think on the surface it does a good job of showing they aren't evil creatures and then it's up to everyone in the community to ensure the education is out there for people who decide to get one for their child.
Terranaut
09-22-12, 01:59 PM
My daughter loves that show. At the very least it shows a large monitor as a "friendly" pet. I think on the surface it does a good job of showing they aren't evil creatures and then it's up to everyone in the community to ensure the education is out there for people who decide to get one for their child.

I agree and have kids that watch this show. Its horrible other than the fact that the rich kid has huge monitor. There are many videos of him on youtube. Never seen him in person but he looks fine in the videos.
infernalis
09-22-12, 02:21 PM
Since my kids are practically grown up now, This is the first I have seen of it.

After one episode, I changed the channel.

Still think it's neat when I see monitors in movies and on TV.

There is Lace monitors in one of the Crocodile Dundee movies, can't remember which one though.
crocdoc
09-22-12, 04:17 PM
I've seen this monitor in person and it's kept at room temperature.
infernalis
09-22-12, 04:19 PM
I've seen this monitor in person and it's kept at room temperature.


That's sad.. so that's how it stays still for the program shoots..

I noticed it didn't move around a lot during the show.
Aaron_S
09-22-12, 04:29 PM
It's also incredibly obese. I have only seen it waddle around in the show with it's belly dragging.
Pirarucu
09-22-12, 04:34 PM
I've seen this monitor in person and it's kept at room temperature.And room humidity... Yes, let's take an animal from Indonesia and put it at 72 degrees and 40% humidity. That makes sense.. But guys don't forget, they run a large pet store and take care of thousands of animals, so they know better than us.
Ivalynfyre
09-22-12, 05:04 PM
At the store, the monitor just laid there.. he looked miserable. I have a picture...

http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p526/Ivalynfyre/Other/IMG_1256_zps48dd03c3.jpg
infernalis
09-22-12, 05:28 PM
Even though that picture is ripping my guts out, Thank you for posting it.

How can people treat animals like this??

I think I will skip watching the Disney channel now.
bigsnakegirl785
09-22-12, 06:33 PM
Yeah, you'd think that it would be common sense to keep an animal from a different environment in the environment it came from. But, many people don't think that. My dad and my brother say that both my snakes will be fine at 72 degrees and whatever humidity we have in the room (boa constrictor and ball python) and that they won't get sick or die. Or, if they "were that specific, they should've died out long ago because an animal that specific with it's needs couldn't have survived that long."

I feel sorry for the poor monitor, although I do wish more "pop culture" would paint reps in a positive light, and with the correct info. That way, maybe they'll lose some of the bad credibility they have. And use correct info people can make smart choices on the rep they want, as well as take proper care of them.
infernalis
09-22-12, 06:39 PM
I feel sorry for the poor monitor, although I do wish more "pop culture" would paint reps in a positive light, and with the correct info. That way, maybe they'll lose some of the bad credibility they have. And use correct info people can make smart choices on the rep they want, as well as take proper care of them.

Has me thinking, I wonder how many Asian Water monitors have been sold as a result of people watching that show?

When I really toss this around in my head, it's also troubling that it paints the picture of "docile and calm" as normal behaviour.

Too many people out there already who want "pet dinosaurs" that behave like puppies.

Just today someone on youtube asked me about taming a Savannah, I said I like mine "frisky" and that I don't tame them.
jhinton6932
09-22-12, 08:44 PM
lol tame monitor...the picture with its front legs just flopped back is not normal.period. im not jumping on the whole "every monitor is stressed" soapbox but come on...that lizard is clearly very depressed. and way overweight for a water monitor. or any monitor really
AjaMichelle
09-22-12, 10:49 PM
That's gut wrenching. :( just painful to see.
RobsCornField
09-22-12, 11:38 PM
Are they the ones who also have "Twinkie", the worlds most overweight retic? I mean... "largest"? Or is that some other "zoo"/"breeder"?
Ivalynfyre
09-23-12, 12:05 AM
Yes, they have Twinkie.
Unfortunately the monitors weren't the only things in bad condition.. however I only got pictures Twinkie and the 'Mr. Kipling' monitor.
Aaron_S
09-23-12, 07:53 AM
Even though that picture is ripping my guts out, Thank you for posting it.

How can people treat animals like this??

I think I will skip watching the Disney channel now.

Honestly, it's not Disney's fault for placing this in their show. They wrote in the child has a large pet lizard. They found someone with a "docile" one. I don't blame Disney for being uneducated. I blame the owners of the monitor for not educating them. And just to be a butt, we don't even know if they told people on site that it isn't the norm for these animals to behave like this.
infernalis
09-23-12, 08:01 AM
Honestly, it's not Disney's fault for placing this in their show. They wrote in the child has a large pet lizard. They found someone with a "docile" one. I don't blame Disney for being uneducated. I blame the owners of the monitor for not educating them. And just to be a butt, we don't even know if they told people on site that it isn't the norm for these animals to behave like this.


you sir are a butt...

Not like I really watch a lot of the Disney channel anyway.

The animated classics we have on DVD.:cool:

You do make a valid point.
alessia55
09-23-12, 10:23 AM
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Ivalynfyre
09-23-12, 10:56 AM
Wow umm... I don't think monitors are supposed to 'waddle' around like that.
Kaetlinv
09-23-12, 11:00 AM
it also looks like he is missing a few toenails :(
infernalis
09-23-12, 11:02 AM
Looks like they speed up the frames to make it look like he's moving quick..
AjaMichelle
09-24-12, 10:38 AM
I'm new to keeping monitors and am still in the process of earning trust. I have noticed that the person who keeps Frank slaps him, plays with his feet, and pulls on his tail. The monitor doesn't respond.

What's up with that?

If I made sudden movements around my savannah monitor, she would undoubtedly try to eat my hands. I don't think she would be very happy if I pulled on her tail. That monitor doesn't seem to act like a monitor at all.

Is that normal? :/
infernalis
09-24-12, 01:17 PM
I'm new to keeping monitors and am still in the process of earning trust. I have noticed that the person who keeps Frank slaps him, plays with his feet, and pulls on his tail. The monitor doesn't respond.

What's up with that?

If I made sudden movements around my savannah monitor, she would undoubtedly try to eat my hands. I don't think she would be very happy if I pulled on her tail. That monitor doesn't seem to act like a monitor at all.

Is that normal? :/


Short answer - NO
BarelyBreathing
09-24-12, 01:29 PM
From all that huffing and air gulping he also appears to be severely stressed.
TheBoogieDown
09-24-12, 01:31 PM
Man. I don't even know anything about monitors (or many lizards for that matter, as you all well know by now) but! I do know one thing: most lizards I've come into contact with hated their tails being tugged, pulled, or even touched. I mean, isn't there a difference between being "docile" and being "depressed"?
MoreliAddict
09-24-12, 01:33 PM
I mean, isn't there a difference between being "docile" and being "depressed"?
At this point, that monitor is probably both.
AjaMichelle
09-24-12, 09:13 PM
I didn't think it was normal. :( poor guy. bummers.
rmfsnakes32
09-24-12, 11:02 PM
Thats sad!
Little Wise Owl
09-26-12, 07:17 PM
That's sad because my little sister loves this show and thinks Mr. Kipling is so cool. She thinks my tegu is going to be exactly like him.

I didn't know much about him but I assumed he had a proper habitat he lives in. It's disappointing to know he's kept to free roam without proper humidity and heat...
Wildside
09-26-12, 07:32 PM
Has me thinking, I wonder how many Asian Water monitors have been sold as a result of people watching that show?

When I really toss this around in my head, it's also troubling that it paints the picture of "docile and calm" as normal behaviour.

Too many people out there already who want "pet dinosaurs" that behave like puppies.

Just today someone on youtube asked me about taming a Savannah, I said I like mine "frisky" and that I don't tame them.


At least Debbie Ryan is hawt right? :sorry: