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infernalis
09-19-12, 04:50 AM
That is one of the most well thought out, nicest replies I have ever seen to a thread. Not what I was expecting at all. Thanks Infernalis. I appreciate the input, the reply and the information and will check that website out more often as well. Take care!
Scott
LLLReptile & Supply

This was in response to this post....



I brought it up here, and I am very glad you replied, and even more happy the video was taken down.

You have every right to be angry with me, shows you DO care. I respect that more than you can imagine.

I troll the web all day looking for people who need help with monitors, and I don't do it for the people, and I don't do it to be popular, I do it to save lizards.

What you have to understand (and the reasoning escapes me) is that many people think youtube is the place to get information on monitor care, that much is a joke, since 99% of the people who post "how to guides" are very young people parroting a poorly written care sheet and regurgitating misinformation.

The ONLY reason I found that particular video a point of interest is that your company has a very strong industry presence, and I can all but guarantee you that the majority of people who followed that as a "basic" setup will in fact leave the animal in there for its very short life and then just move on.

The fact is, Savannah Monitors (and many others) have high humidity requirements from day one, Ackies on the other hand live in very arid environments and in rock crevices so humidity is not nearly the same issue as it is with the "cheap" African species. And its the "cheap" lizards that inevitably get neglected the most, because people just can't wrap around how a $15 lizard could cost so much to properly keep.

I could count the number of people who actually had a properly sealed 8x4x4 enclosure all set up and ready for placement of the baby lizard's arrival on the fingers of one hand.

It's a complete misconception on your part that I have nothing better to do with my time, hell I didn't even know of your video until I was uploading one of mine, and the tags were similar and the youtube software "suggested" your video. So I gave it a watch.

Your comment "the screen top is certainly not the devil" could not be further from the truth.

Dehydration in tropical Squamates is from respiration of less than ideal air, simple physics mandates that a high wattage lamp will produce searing heat, in turn evaporating any moisture in the substrate and cause it to rise up through the screen and into the room the cage is in.

anyone with a basic high school education knows that.

In the Varanid circles we call this a "jerky drier" or "jerky machine" and it is well known that the average life expectancy of Exanthematicus and Niloticus once they leave the dealer is quite usually under a year.

There are many contributing factors in that, repeated molestations from over eager new owners who want a "pet dinosaur" poor dietary choices and (gasp) screen tops and crap substrate.

I officially apologize, and rescind my statements, and eagerly look forward to a better informed video. Likewise, feel free to suggest savannahmonitor.net to anyone who needs accurate data on Savannah monitors.

I do not take much credit for that site, as it is built on the labor and words of accredited biologists, zoologists, Bio-psychologists and established breeders.

It is in no way an exercise in self gloating nor misleading in any way, after all it would defeat it's purpose otherwise.

Thank you VERY much for taking the time out of your busy schedule, and I do believe in symbiotic relationships, so I will make it a point to sing praise from atop the highest mountain for the changes being made here.

All the best,

Wayne A. Harvey
Savannahmonitor.net
Savannahmonitor.co

StudentoReptile
09-19-12, 07:05 AM
Awesome sauce.

Kingsnakechris
09-19-12, 07:16 AM
Very cool, glad you were able to get through to them. They are a fairky well known company and I for one would probably trust the information they gave me, good to know they now have more CORRECT information. Kudos to both of you.

jaleely
09-19-12, 10:11 AM
that's pretty awesome. imagine the difference it will make if he really embraces it fully. pretty neat dude!

shaunyboy
09-19-12, 10:16 AM
i'm glad and surprized to hear they took on board what you were saying Wayne

well done mate:)

cheers shaun

infernalis
09-19-12, 10:35 AM
I could have gone about it a little more like an adult, I think we both learned something yesterday.

Hats off to Scott for taking it all so well.

Pirarucu
09-19-12, 11:14 AM
Awesome, great job!

Wildside
09-19-12, 11:40 AM
Awesome sauce.

Awesomesauce is one word and Wayne consumes a lot of it! ;)

BarelyBreathing
09-19-12, 12:15 PM
Nice job, Wayne.

kriminaal
09-19-12, 12:35 PM
Hey Wayne. I think you just made quite a difference.
Was pleased to see the 'adult side' come out between the two of you.
Too often it goes the other way. (not you specifically)

Aanayab1
09-19-12, 12:53 PM
Again I'll say that Wayne this world needs more people of your kindness! Reading this on my lunch break just made my day a lot better, thank you.

Antonio

MoreliAddict
09-19-12, 01:13 PM
Another day another saved Sav.

Hopefully they switch that youtube video out for something that you can direct people to for Sav help.

Nice, Wayne. http://www.lilwaynehq.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbs.gif