infernalis
09-19-12, 04:50 AM
That is one of the most well thought out, nicest replies I have ever seen to a thread. Not what I was expecting at all. Thanks Infernalis. I appreciate the input, the reply and the information and will check that website out more often as well. Take care!
Scott
LLLReptile & Supply
This was in response to this post....
I brought it up here, and I am very glad you replied, and even more happy the video was taken down.
You have every right to be angry with me, shows you DO care. I respect that more than you can imagine.
I troll the web all day looking for people who need help with monitors, and I don't do it for the people, and I don't do it to be popular, I do it to save lizards.
What you have to understand (and the reasoning escapes me) is that many people think youtube is the place to get information on monitor care, that much is a joke, since 99% of the people who post "how to guides" are very young people parroting a poorly written care sheet and regurgitating misinformation.
The ONLY reason I found that particular video a point of interest is that your company has a very strong industry presence, and I can all but guarantee you that the majority of people who followed that as a "basic" setup will in fact leave the animal in there for its very short life and then just move on.
The fact is, Savannah Monitors (and many others) have high humidity requirements from day one, Ackies on the other hand live in very arid environments and in rock crevices so humidity is not nearly the same issue as it is with the "cheap" African species. And its the "cheap" lizards that inevitably get neglected the most, because people just can't wrap around how a $15 lizard could cost so much to properly keep.
I could count the number of people who actually had a properly sealed 8x4x4 enclosure all set up and ready for placement of the baby lizard's arrival on the fingers of one hand.
It's a complete misconception on your part that I have nothing better to do with my time, hell I didn't even know of your video until I was uploading one of mine, and the tags were similar and the youtube software "suggested" your video. So I gave it a watch.
Your comment "the screen top is certainly not the devil" could not be further from the truth.
Dehydration in tropical Squamates is from respiration of less than ideal air, simple physics mandates that a high wattage lamp will produce searing heat, in turn evaporating any moisture in the substrate and cause it to rise up through the screen and into the room the cage is in.
anyone with a basic high school education knows that.
In the Varanid circles we call this a "jerky drier" or "jerky machine" and it is well known that the average life expectancy of Exanthematicus and Niloticus once they leave the dealer is quite usually under a year.
There are many contributing factors in that, repeated molestations from over eager new owners who want a "pet dinosaur" poor dietary choices and (gasp) screen tops and crap substrate.
I officially apologize, and rescind my statements, and eagerly look forward to a better informed video. Likewise, feel free to suggest savannahmonitor.net to anyone who needs accurate data on Savannah monitors.
I do not take much credit for that site, as it is built on the labor and words of accredited biologists, zoologists, Bio-psychologists and established breeders.
It is in no way an exercise in self gloating nor misleading in any way, after all it would defeat it's purpose otherwise.
Thank you VERY much for taking the time out of your busy schedule, and I do believe in symbiotic relationships, so I will make it a point to sing praise from atop the highest mountain for the changes being made here.
All the best,
Wayne A. Harvey
Savannahmonitor.net
Savannahmonitor.co
Scott
LLLReptile & Supply
This was in response to this post....
I brought it up here, and I am very glad you replied, and even more happy the video was taken down.
You have every right to be angry with me, shows you DO care. I respect that more than you can imagine.
I troll the web all day looking for people who need help with monitors, and I don't do it for the people, and I don't do it to be popular, I do it to save lizards.
What you have to understand (and the reasoning escapes me) is that many people think youtube is the place to get information on monitor care, that much is a joke, since 99% of the people who post "how to guides" are very young people parroting a poorly written care sheet and regurgitating misinformation.
The ONLY reason I found that particular video a point of interest is that your company has a very strong industry presence, and I can all but guarantee you that the majority of people who followed that as a "basic" setup will in fact leave the animal in there for its very short life and then just move on.
The fact is, Savannah Monitors (and many others) have high humidity requirements from day one, Ackies on the other hand live in very arid environments and in rock crevices so humidity is not nearly the same issue as it is with the "cheap" African species. And its the "cheap" lizards that inevitably get neglected the most, because people just can't wrap around how a $15 lizard could cost so much to properly keep.
I could count the number of people who actually had a properly sealed 8x4x4 enclosure all set up and ready for placement of the baby lizard's arrival on the fingers of one hand.
It's a complete misconception on your part that I have nothing better to do with my time, hell I didn't even know of your video until I was uploading one of mine, and the tags were similar and the youtube software "suggested" your video. So I gave it a watch.
Your comment "the screen top is certainly not the devil" could not be further from the truth.
Dehydration in tropical Squamates is from respiration of less than ideal air, simple physics mandates that a high wattage lamp will produce searing heat, in turn evaporating any moisture in the substrate and cause it to rise up through the screen and into the room the cage is in.
anyone with a basic high school education knows that.
In the Varanid circles we call this a "jerky drier" or "jerky machine" and it is well known that the average life expectancy of Exanthematicus and Niloticus once they leave the dealer is quite usually under a year.
There are many contributing factors in that, repeated molestations from over eager new owners who want a "pet dinosaur" poor dietary choices and (gasp) screen tops and crap substrate.
I officially apologize, and rescind my statements, and eagerly look forward to a better informed video. Likewise, feel free to suggest savannahmonitor.net to anyone who needs accurate data on Savannah monitors.
I do not take much credit for that site, as it is built on the labor and words of accredited biologists, zoologists, Bio-psychologists and established breeders.
It is in no way an exercise in self gloating nor misleading in any way, after all it would defeat it's purpose otherwise.
Thank you VERY much for taking the time out of your busy schedule, and I do believe in symbiotic relationships, so I will make it a point to sing praise from atop the highest mountain for the changes being made here.
All the best,
Wayne A. Harvey
Savannahmonitor.net
Savannahmonitor.co