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[filthy phil]

Put a deposit on a red tail today, getting it friday, payday. $100 for a nice darker marked baby.Need enclosure advice please.
Petshop kid said too big a enclosure would stress the snake out?
Otoh I could cordon off part of it of course. Saw a tutorial on making an enclosure from 2 large rubbermaid containers. I plan to keep him in a closet away from prying eyes of the landlord:D

Im also I to guns and motorcycles. Can post pics of my toys if ya want

[alessia55]

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[Kaetlinv]

Welcome to the forum.


Does your landlord not permit snakes? Keeping one despite your agreement with the landlord could be very bad for you, and consequentially the snake, too.

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[alessia55]

I already break one or more?

No, you haven't broken any rules. We post a link to the rules so that you can read them over and familiarize yourself with them.

[filthy phil]

Welcome to the forum.


Does your landlord not permit snakes? Keeping one despite your agreement with the landlord could be very bad for both you, and consequentially the snake, too.
Im renting a room in her house. I figure what she dont know cant hurt her
Hehe

[infernalis]

No, you have not broken any rules. as Alessia just pointed out, we always link them in our welcome post.

It's amazing how many people never read them though, then seem upset or surprised when they do break them.

Don't know if you ever saw the episode of "South park" called "Human Centipad" it was all about how quickly people click digital agreements without ever reading them.

[Wildside]

No, you have not broken any rules. as Alessia just pointed out, we always link them in our welcome post.

It's amazing how many people never read them though, then seem upset or surprised when they do break them.

Don't know if you ever saw the episode of "South park" called "Human Centipad" it was all about how quickly people click digital agreements without ever reading them.

I knew you were a southpark fan

[mark24]

Hello and welcome to the forum.

If you do go with a bigger enclosure make sure your snake as plenty of hides so he feels secure cuz if you don't he will stress it out which isn't good I personally would go with a smaller enclosure until he gets bigger then move him into a bigger one

You should first talk to your landlord before getting a snake as another member suggested you do

[filthy phil]

Hello and welcome to the forum.

If you do go with a bigger enclosure make sure your snake as plenty of hides so he feels secure cuz if you don't he will stress it out which isn't good I personally would go with a smaller enclosure until he gets bigger then move him into a bigger one

You should first talk to your landlord before getting a snake as another member suggested you do

She dosent come in my rm. Shes a downstairs hermit. She needs the rent.
Would a 10gal tank be ok for now? Shopkid said it would be

[Wildside]

She dosent come in my rm. Shes a downstairs hermit. She needs the rent.
Would a 10gal tank be ok for now? Shopkid said it would be

No. Not unless you want to buy another tank in 3 months, then one after that, then one after that. What I'd like to know is what else the shop kid told you about "Redtails". I want to help you but an RTB just doesn't sound like an appropriate snake for you.

[rmfsnakes32]

Perhaps a kenyon sand boa would be a better choice they only get a few feet long and could be in a 10 or 20 ga tank easily. Read up on them and see if its something you would enjoy and be able to " hide" all though I strongly reccomend being up front about last thing you want is for you and your snake living in your car!

[Valvaren]

I just don't know why you would risk your home and the home of an animal by not discussing this with the person who holds the power over if you stay or not. You say she never enters your room but what if she does and you get kicked out, what happens to the snake where does it go ?

[alessia55]

Hate to be a party popper but... That baby red tail boa will grow to be 10ft. It will outgrow a 10gallon in no time. Also, keeping it in the closet isn't a good idea. Snakes need light of some sort, just like we do. A 10gallon tank will also give your problems with humidity if it has a mesh screen lid.

[shaunyboy]

hello and welcome

cheers shaun

[filthy phil]

Hate to be a party popper but... That baby red tail boa will grow to be 10ft. It will outgrow a 10gallon in no time. Also, keeping it in the closet isn't a good idea. Snakes need light of some sort, just like we do. A 10gallon tank will also give your problems with humidity if it has a mesh screen lid.

Walkin closet with light. 10gal is temp.
Actually looking into converting a plastic tote for an enclosure

[Kaetlinv]

You still are keeping the snake without the obvious permission or approval of your landlord. Essentially, lying...

Murphy's law, "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong." applies well here. Better to be safe than sorry, it would be better for you to gain permission from your landlord to have the snake, and if they do allow one then you would be probably be able to keep them in better conditions as well, rather than in a closet (even a walk-in one).

Just roll with me here... What could be the worst case scenario if your landlord finds a snake and doesn't approve? Where will that land you and what will happen to the snake you will be sheltering?

[filthy phil]

Lying? hardly.
I wanna move anyway. And I can afford to

[Wildside]

Lying? hardly.
I wanna move anyway. And I can afford to

Still there's this issue of keeping an RTB in a tote. They get pretty big. Not really a good snake to hide in a tote (because they can get out).

[Kaetlinv]

Then I hope you are able to. :)

Wasn't trying to attack you, Phil. I wasn't saying you were flat out lying, I said it was essentially lying, but as it may not matter then there's nothing to discuss.

All the power and luck to you. Maybe the snake was meant to be for you, so you could find a new home? Who knows with our crazy world :wacky:

[Kingsnakechris]

welcome!! get yourself a chap 24 qt. tub for him to live in untill he outgrows it, i use rubbermaid tubs for all of my snakes, they are very easy to modify and very inexpensive. there are many ways to heat them as well. I cut a screen top lid into a decent sized section and cut out a hole in the plastic lid of the tub and cut a scren lid into sections appropriate to the hole i cut and screwed it in. there are many other options but this seems to be the easiest/ affordable option. rubbermaid tubs are very easy to modify and simple to clean... they hold temp/ humidity extremely well and they are a fraction of the price of a glass tank..... you can use UTH'S to get the temp gradiant. tubs may not be the best eye pleasers but inch for inch they make great enclosures.

[Kingsnakechris]

just make sure you drill enough holes for heat to escape but humidity to rise.. ( if that makes sense) and what i did was drill about 8 holes along the lid's top and aded cotter pims to make sure my snakes couldnt simply push the lid off of the tub ( trust me..... they will) and as far as drilling holes go, get a digital thermometer and a hydrometer (sp?) and monitor the tempss and humidity. start by drilling too FEW holes and monitor the conditions for an hour or so and add as needed. its much better to have to add an extra hole then try to plug too many holes. (if that makes sense)

[Wildside]

welcome!! get yourself a chap 24 qt. tub for him to live in untill he outgrows it, i use rubbermaid tubs for all of my snakes, they are very easy to modify and very inexpensive. there are many ways to heat them as well. I cut a screen top lid into a decent sized section and cut out a hole in the plastic lid of the tub and cut a scren lid into sections appropriate to the hole i cut and screwed it in. there are many other options but this seems to be the easiest/ affordable option. rubbermaid tubs are very easy to modify and simple to clean... they hold temp/ humidity extremely well and they are a fraction of the price of a glass tank..... you can use UTH'S to get the temp gradiant. tubs may not be the best eye pleasers but inch for inch they make great enclosures.

Have you never had problems with escaping? When tubs are used in a rack it's much less common for this to happen because the wooden divider helps to secure the lid all the way around. But if you're just depending on those side clips you're asking for trouble and the first thing that snake will do is find it's way to his landlord's place (refer back to "Newton's law").

[Kingsnakechris]

Have you never had problems with escaping? When tubs are used in a rack it's much less common for this to happen because the wooden divider helps to secure the lid all the way around. But if you're just depending on those side clips you're asking for trouble and the first thing that snake will do is find it's way to his landlord's place (refer back to "Newton's law").

Lol I took care of the escape routes. I drilled 8 holes along the side of the lid and used cotter pins to secure the lid all the way around. It's pretty escape proof.

[rmfsnakes32]

Good luck post pics soon

[Wildside]

Lol I took care of the escape routes. I drilled 8 holes along the side of the lid and used cotter pins to secure the lid all the way around. It's pretty escape proof.

Now that's thinkin' ;)

[TheBoogieDown]

Don't know if you ever saw the episode of "South park" called "Human Centipad" it was all about how quickly people click digital agreements without ever reading them.

As much as I laughed at that episode (I'm a huge SP fan!) I still have nightmares over the cuddlefish incident *super huge shudder*

[Kingsnakechris]

Now that's thinkin' ;)

Yeah, I was fortunate enough to see my snake push her way out right in front of me lol I even went all out and got the lid with the locking handles but they proved to be useless so I had to get a little creative. Anyone interested in using tubs should ALWAYS modify the lids to make them escape proof. The lids on their own are useless...

[Kingsnakechris]

As much as I laughed at that episode (I'm a huge SP fan!) I still have nightmares over the cuddlefish incident *super huge shudder*

Haha it's based on a real movie! I saw the SP episode and was forced by curiosity to seek out the actual movie. Some messed up stuff! It's called "human centipede" and the SP episode isn't too far off haha the only difference was these Guys didn't click agree haha. " I'll be your genius today" haha

[filthy phil]

put a deposit on a 6' rtb today:cool:
got a month to bring him home (they say its a male. they also said it will only get 8" longer??)
would I be ok with a 55gal tank? I plan to make a top for it from wood and vinyl/plastic.
also, as we keep the house pretty cold im thinking of covering 3 sides in some type insulation material to keep in warmth.
also snakeshopdude says I dont really need to add any more humidity (keep in mind this is houston, tx. its normally humid here) except when the snake is in some stage of shedding, I forget when exactly.
thoughts?
will post a pic in a couple weeks when I make a pmt on him

[rmfsnakes32]

Where are you going to put it I thought you had to hide it? Get radiant heat panels that will help alot

[filthy phil]

Where are you going to put it I thought you had to hide it? Get radiant heat panels that will help alot

Got a big walkin closet I can lock. These heat panels go under the tank?if I went the plastic tub route where would they be placed? inside?

and I dont know that I gotta hide it. Prolly do it just in case:D

[filthy phil]

Good news!
moving where its ok to have the snake.
No more closet snake:)

[Kaetlinv]

Good news!
moving where its ok to have the snake.
No more closet snake:)

Woo hoooo!! :laugh:

[filthy phil]

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