Sand boa eats trout slice!

[jaleely]

My little pig of a girl, Mooglie, aptly named...will eat anything lol

Mooglie the sand boa eats a trout slice - YouTube (http://youtu.be/x4yayKsTT3M)

It's just a phone video, but she's still cute.
I was feeding my frogs, and my hognose snake and she looked like she wanted some! I don't see why it would hurt her, especially since i put some calcium powder on it. The video is of her third piece...LOL

Don't they normally eat like, lizards in the wild? They're not really made to process rodent hair anyway..eh?

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[alessia55]

fishy-snake eats fish! :eek:

[jaleely]

Isn't she just sooo cute? Cracks me up.

Anyone think the fish thing could be bad for her? I don't see where it would be...but opinions will be googled, just in case LOL

[FlagonFly]

Is that some kind of spa treatment mudbath? ;)

[jaleely]

lol kind of flagonfly! This girl has the worst sheds i've ever seen. She will NOT rub her sheds off, and they will dry on her. Then she rubs her eyes, and it's a vicious cycle. Talked with a sand boa breeder, and he said to put in a moist moss tupperware with hole in it, on the warm side for her. She practically never leaves it.
I have to keep it clean, make sure there's no mildew, etc. She just lives in there. 100% humidity. I mean there is water on the walls..and she drinks, ALL the time. She'll drink the water in there, and if she does come out, she can be seen drinking at her dish for a LONG time. She is a super weird sand boa!
My other acts normal. I gave him a moist hide and he will go in there on occasion, for a shed, and that's it. I've never seen him drink.

http://www.ssnakess.com/forums/erycines/90652-mooglie-drinks.html

She's probably my favorite snake though. Such a little finger-puppet!

Anyone know if fish would be bad for her?

[Sophia'sSophia]

Fish is totally snake-safe so long as it isn't of a species containing thiaminase! :D
I can't recall if trout does or not... if it does, a tiny amount like that wont be very detrimental. It only takes a toll on the animal if it makes up a moderate percent of the diet.

Also, I should not have seen this! Lol I've always loved the look of the erycines, but I only keep fish-eaters. You have tempted me with this idea! xD

I love her eyes by the way. :3 Very cute lil'face.

[h3h]

Ha, cute. ;)

- h3

[Eight]

Trout is normally safe and thiaminase free. I think where it is caught from can make a difference though. I'll dig up a list for you of safe and non safe fish for the future :)

[Eight]

This is all courtesy of Thamnophis.com, but I'm sure they won't mind me using it for a snakes sake :)

Safe fish

Ayu (Plecoglossus altivelis) Bass (largemouth) (Huro salmoides) Bass (rock) (Ambloplites r. rupestris) Bass (smallmouth) (Micropterus d. dolomieu) Black backs (pseudopleuronectes americanus) Bluegill (Lepomis m. macrochirus) Chub (bloater) (Coregonus hoyi) Cod (Gadus morrhua) Crappie (Pomoxis nigro-maculatus) Croaker (Micropogon undulatus) Cunner (Tautogolabrus adspersus) Cusk (Brosme brosme) Cutlassfish (silver eel) (Trichiurus lepturus) Dogfish (squalus acanthias) Eel (anguilla rostrata) Gar (northern longnose) (Lepisosteus osseus oxyurus) Haddack (Melanogrammus aeglefinus) Halibut (Hippoglossus hippoglossus) Hake (Urophycis spp.) Herring (Leucichthys artedi areturus) King whiting (ground whiting) (Menticirrhus americanus) Lemon sole (Psuedopleuronectes americanus dignabilis) Lizard Fish (Synodus foetens) Mackerel (Scomber scombrus) Mullet (Mugil spp.) Perch (yellow) (Perca flavescens) Pike (northern) (Esox lucius) Pike (wall-eyed) (stizostedion vitreum) Plaice (Canadian) (Hippoglossoides platessoides) Pollock (Pollachitus virens) Porgy (scup) (Stenotomus aculeatus) Porgy (scup) (Stenotomus chrysops) Pumpkinseed (Lepomis gibbosus) Redfish (Sebastes marinus) Salmon (Salmo salar) Salmon (Coho) (Oncorhynchus kisutch) Seabass (centropristis striatas) Sea catfish (galeichthys felis) Sea robin (Prionotus spp.) Smelt or "silversides" (Hypomesus olidus)(arctic pond. Also known as silversides, usually frozen available in pet stores) Spot (Leiostomus xanthurus) Squid (Loligo brevis) Tautog (blackfish) (Tautoga onitis) Trout (brown) (Salmo trutta fario) Trout (lake) (Christiconer n. namaycush) Trout (rainbow) (Salmo gairdnerii irideus) White trout (Cynoscion nothus) White trout (Cynoscion avenarius) Whiting (Merluccius bilinearis) Yellow tails (Limanda ferruginea)[/
One must keep in mind that just because a fish is on the thiaminase-free list, doesn't mean it's safe to feed to your snakes. Some species (sometimes depending on where it was caught) contain unacceptable levels of contaminants such as methyl mercury or other heavy metals, or PCB's. For this reason I do not recommend freshwater bass of any kind, or wild salmon from anywhere but Alaska. Bluegill (sunfish) and crappie is also sometimes very high in contaminants. Many people have had snakes get sick, or even die after eating seafood section grocery store fish. I myself fed coho salmon for quite some time, and had snakes develop neurological problems. I recommend F/T silversides, AKA "Arctic Pond Smelt" if your snakes will eat them. For more information on contaminated fish: List of Seafood Health Alerts - Seafood Selector - Environmental Defense Fund (http://www.edf.org/page.cfm?tagID=17694)

Unsafe fish

Alewife (Alosa pseudoharengus) Anchovies (Anchoa hepsetus) Anchovies (Engraulis mordax) Bass (white) (Lepibema chrysops) Black quahog (Artica islandica) Bowfin (dogfish) (Amia calva) Bream (Abramis brama) Buckeye shiner (Notropus atherionoides) Buffalofish (Ictiobus cyprinellus) Bull Head (Ameirurus m. melas) Burbot (Lota lota maculosa) Burbot (Lota lota) Butterfish (Poronotus triacanthus) Carp (Cyprinus carpio) Catfish (channel) (Ictalurus laccustris punctatus) Clams (chowder, steamer, cherrystone) Fathead minnow (Primephales p. promelas) Garfish (garpike) Goldfish (Carassius auratus) Herring (Baltic) (Clupea harengus var. membranus) Herring (Clupea harengus) Lamprey (adult) (Petromyzon marintus) Mackerel (Scomber japonicas) (Pacific) Menhaden (Brecoortia tyrannus) Menhaden (large scale) (Brecoortia patronus) Moray ell (Gymnothorax ocellatus) Mussel (bigtoe) (Pluerobema cordatum) Razor belly (scaled sardine) (Harengula pensacolae) Sauger (Stizostedion c. canadense) Scallop (Placopecten grandis) Sculpin (Myooxocephalus quadricornis thompsonii) Shad (gizzard) (Dorosoma cepedianum) Shiner (spottail) (Notropis hudsonius) Smelt (freshwater) (Osmerus mordax) Stoneroller (central) (Campostoma anomalum pullum) Sucker (common white) (Catostomus c. commersonii) White bass (Lepimbema chrysops) Whitefish (Prosopium cylindraceum quadriaterale) White fish (Coregonus clupeaformis)

The lists are of species that have been reported not/to contain thiaminase.

Hope this helps