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Jlassiter
08-26-12, 05:21 PM
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TremTricolors
08-26-12, 06:19 PM
That first MSP is killer, I think I have seen that pic before,LOL.
Pete Q
08-27-12, 11:57 PM
Oh these are very nice, great collection.
bluelephant
10-08-12, 05:32 PM
Fantastic - are these cohabiting continuous or only at breeding and brumation please?
Jlassiter
10-08-12, 10:57 PM
I have cohabitated many species of Lampropeltis successfully......

I will never tell anyone they should or shouldn't, just that it can be done without any cannibalism.

It is best for someone new to the hobby not to house Lampropeltis together.
bluelephant
10-10-12, 04:38 AM
Thanks for the info ; in general what size enclosure are you using please? Is it the general rule that a larger enclosure for a pair cohabiting is better than a smaller?
I was forced to co-habit my 1:1 in the past when I was re-structuring a shelving unit for them and they got on fine - no aggression whatsoever and feeding was as normal.

In the old temporary enclosure: male on left, female on right
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu236/kirobella/snakes/048-5.jpg

Lmt 0:1 feeding last night

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu236/kirobella/snakes/055.jpg

New enclosures ( 90cm length x 41cm height x 30cm width)
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu236/kirobella/snakes/020-1-1.jpg
Jlassiter
10-10-12, 05:18 AM
Those are nice.....and an interesting "playground" for them to utilize!

I cohabitated in my Applegate Enclosures.
They are 2' X 2' X 2' with two subfloor areas that is 2' X 1' X 4" (Sorry I did not convert to cm)
I would keep pairs and trios this way, but never more than one male as that is asking for real trouble.....lol

This year I am not cohabitating anything......I am experimenting with something (again...lol) to compare notes with this year's data.
Roadtrash
10-10-12, 05:51 AM
Great animals, I especially like the 5th one.
bluelephant
10-10-12, 06:06 AM
Not familiar with the enclosures you mentioned Jlassiter ( Quote) : "I cohabitated in my Applegate Enclosures. They are 2' X 2' X 2' with two subfloor areas that is 2' X 1' X 4" but if they are the ones as shown on the Bob Applegate homepage :
Applegate Reptiles Breeding Facilities for Reptiles and Rodents (http://www.applegatereptiles.com/about/facilites2.html)
then I can see what you mean. However, I don't know what sub-floor areas are? - Is this American terminology for levels? - (The interior of the enclosure has one or more levels thereby increasing surface area and I presume the lower one being the moist/nest box?)

The enclosures I have are converted glass fish tanks - I did the DIY myself and put on real pine wood trim with aluminium runnels and edging.
Kettennatter
10-10-12, 07:10 AM
I have cohabitated many species of Lampropeltis successfully......

I will never tell anyone they should or shouldn't, just that it can be done without any cannibalism.

It is best for someone new to the hobby not to house Lampropeltis together.

Interesting, I was under the impression that the risk of cannibalism was too high in any scenario with Lampropeltis. I only cohabitate Thamnophis, and maybe corns on a temporary basis.
Jlassiter
10-10-12, 07:47 AM
Interesting, I was under the impression that the risk of cannibalism was too high in any scenario with Lampropeltis. I only cohabitate Thamnophis, and maybe corns on a temporary basis.
The risk is still there, but there is a higher risk when putting together pairs that have never seen each other before.....
I don't recommend to anyone to cohabitate lampros.

There is a correct way to do it and not everyone can achieve success.....
Jlassiter
10-10-12, 08:01 AM
Not familiar with the enclosures you mentioned Jlassiter ( Quote) : "I cohabitated in my Applegate Enclosures. They are 2' X 2' X 2' with two subfloor areas that is 2' X 1' X 4" but if they are the ones as shown on the Bob Applegate homepage :
Applegate Reptiles Breeding Facilities for Reptiles and Rodents (http://www.applegatereptiles.com/about/facilites2.html)
then I can see what you mean. However, I don't know what sub-floor areas are? - Is this American terminology for levels? - (The interior of the enclosure has one or more levels thereby increasing surface area and I presume the lower one being the moist/nest box?)

The enclosures I have are converted glass fish tanks - I did the DIY myself and put on real pine wood trim with aluminium runnels and edging.


Mine have two drawers....One for a moist hide and another for a dry hide.
The back is heated so that there is a moist/hot area, moist/cool area, dry/hot area and dry/cool area...all in the dark...then there's light "above ground" to add to the options.
The moist hide is also a lay box.
I feed in the dry hide.

Here's a picture of some of mine.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/jlassiter/IMG_0166.jpg