SUPER PINK - What morph? [Archive] - sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum

moshirimon

08-20-12, 08:45 AM

Hey guys got this girl in a trade a while back. I am more of a "normal" guy, but when it comes to boas i love hypos and pastels. So far this girl was a pastel in my eyes, but i have gotten MULTIPLE people telling me she's salmon/hypo because of her bowtie shaped saddles and colouration. I just don't think she's lacking enough dark/black pigment to be a hypo, especially on the tail.

Anybody wanna let me know what this mystery girl could be? She's absoloutely beautiful and when i saw her i had to have her:yes:

moshirimon

08-20-12, 08:45 AM

:Dsorry pics are coming, just uploading

moshirimon

08-20-12, 08:48 AM

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj6/KINGbiggypac/IMG_0158.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj6/KINGbiggypac/IMG_0157.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj6/KINGbiggypac/IMG_0153.jpg

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http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj6/KINGbiggypac/IMG_0159-1.jpg

moshirimon

08-20-12, 08:49 AM

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj6/KINGbiggypac/IMG_0169.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj6/KINGbiggypac/IMG_0167.jpg

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Wildside

08-20-12, 08:51 AM

Definitely not a hypo, I vote for pretty pastel ;)

moshirimon

08-20-12, 08:52 AM

Definitely not a hypo

My thoughts exactly. Although the saddles do resemble that of a hypo, she just doesnt cut it out to be one lol. Not sure what explains her colours though

Wildside

08-20-12, 08:53 AM

What did you buy her as?

moshirimon

08-20-12, 08:57 AM

What did you buy her as?

"High red":no:

The guy bred large pythons, burms, retics, etc.. this was his only boa and he said he had no interest for it. He told me she MIGHT be pastel.

I was almost sure she was pastel and i know there is no such thing as a "high red"

Either way she was beautiful!! I had to find someone that could properly take care of my retic and this guy seemed to have the giant pythons down. i traded my retic to the guy

Wildside

08-20-12, 09:02 AM

"High red":no:

The guy bred large pythons, burms, retics, etc.. this was his only boa and he said he had no interest for it. He told me she MIGHT be pastel.

I was almost sure she was but i know there is not such thing as a "high red"

Either way she was beautiful!! I had to find someone that could properly take care of my retic and this guy seemed to have the giant pythons down. i traded my retic to the guy

There is no such thing as "might" be pastel. Pastel is a line bred trait. She looks like she very well may be from a great line of pastels and was probably traded to him for something. Unfortunately he seems to be one of those people who just doesn't care, so you'll never know. I think if you're gonna breed her you oughtta put her with a pattern morph.

moshirimon

08-20-12, 09:04 AM

I know wildside. She is a real beauty just want to get some opinions on what people think she is. I"ve been told bowtie shaped, detatched saddles are textbook salmon indicators. I'm pretty sure i've seen bowtie detatched saddles in other boas as well though.

Rogue628

08-20-12, 10:02 AM

She's pretty regardless. :) My girl has a lot of pink like that but she was sold to me as a normal and I've never thought her to be anything else. But I also know without knowing her lineage its almost impossible to know what she is. I don't care. She's a pretty well tempered animal. :)

BarelyBreathing

08-20-12, 10:28 AM

My vote is for pastel.

rmfsnakes32

08-20-12, 11:14 AM

She looks like my columbian red tail boa who is double het for pink salmon and het for hypo

Wildside

08-20-12, 11:29 AM

She looks like my columbian red tail boa who is double het for pink salmon and het for hypo

They can't be het for hypo. Hypo is a homozygous trait and after a little more research "Salmon" which are more orange and are line bred. Somebody who knows what they're talking about once said "All Salmon's are hypos but not all hypos are salmon", hopefully this helps.

Also Moshirimon there are hypos called "Redline" but no "High Red's" that I've ever heard of.

moshirimon

08-20-12, 11:52 AM

Wildside

08-20-12, 11:59 AM

Rogue I have seen normals turn pretty pink as well but none like this girl.

BarelyBreathing I agree

Rmf can I see a pic of your boa?

Wildeside I know about the red line hypos and it doesn't match. I just can't see her being a hypo

LOL I know it's not a Red line hypo. I can't see it being any kind of hypo either, but it's absolutely gorgeous.

exwizard

08-20-12, 12:03 PM

Rmf can I see a pic of your boa?
I can get pcs if you like when I get home.

moshirimon

08-20-12, 12:12 PM

Sure I'd love pics! But.. Are u rmf? Lol :D

exwizard

08-20-12, 03:15 PM

No I am not but she is with me. ;) I sold her two of my baby Corns. She is keeping my newest Bloodred Corns at where she is staying for the purpose of quarantine and I am taking care of her Boas until she finds more permanent housing.

moshirimon

08-20-12, 04:20 PM

Ohh okay makes sense hahaha. Yea pics would be awesome

Jay

08-20-12, 04:49 PM

She looks like my columbian red tail boa who is double het for pink salmon and het for hypo

What? Where do you get that info? I'd love to see pics of your ColOmbian red tail lol

Terranaut

08-20-12, 05:31 PM

Wow looks a lot like my Mac. He is an '08 but might be from the same line.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/terranaut0/photo-607.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/terranaut0/photo-1430.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/terranaut0/photo-28.jpg

Hard to see but Mac has a very salmon sorta pink hue. Mac was sold to me as a pastel. No hets no hypo nothing special just pastel.
Nice boa you have there!!

rmfsnakes32

08-20-12, 06:33 PM

I will try to upload some just learning on this site not sure how yet but I will get some help bet my 14 yr old can figure it out :)

moshirimon

08-20-12, 08:25 PM

Mac's beautiful, she definitely looks a lot like him! Probably the most similar boa to her I've seen. Can't wait for her to get that big!

Terranaut

08-20-12, 08:29 PM

We don't live far apart. There is a chance they came from the same line.

moshirimon

08-20-12, 09:25 PM

You are very right I did not. Notice that at all. How cool would that be. Has your male ever been bred?

Terranaut

08-20-12, 09:34 PM

Yes. Once before I got him. With a normal female. I never saw the babies.
I tried to breed him to my sunglow this year with no luck. He became a bit more stuborn when he was in with the female. I had planned permenent cohabitation and had researched it quite a bit but didn't like his attitude change so I seperated them. Well he has bot come around so I may give them a go again and cohabitate them. It didn't affect her at all. I also now have a bigger enclosure for them. Still undecided.

moshirimon

08-20-12, 10:04 PM

That's pretty cool, considering that one of your boa's offspring or siblings could be the parent of my girl!

exwizard

08-22-12, 05:43 PM

Rmf can I see a pic of your boa?

I can get pcs if you like when I get home.

What? Where do you get that info? I'd love to see pics of your ColOmbian red tail lol

I know these pics were posted on another thread but requests for them were made here as well and I really hope this alleviates all doubt. If not, I will upload her paperwork indicating her genetics. Let me know what you think.

moshirimon

08-22-12, 10:27 PM

beautiful snake! i wouldn't say it really looks much like my boa though

still a beauty! love the tail pattern

rmfsnakes32

08-23-12, 08:26 PM

Thanks she is my pride and joy my 1st snake I bought she was less than half the size she is now when I got her

Jendee

08-25-12, 04:11 AM

thats a girgeous pastel!!! i have a pastel that can put most hypos to shame in the red department just means you have an awesome boa ;)

Jendee

08-25-12, 04:13 AM

and maybe ypu got red line confused with red group?? there are a line of pastels called red group pastels she looks alot lkke a rg pastel

moshirimon

08-25-12, 07:06 AM

Wow jendee... I think you may have solved it.

She DEFINITELY looks a lot like the red group pastels.
Can't wait till she grows up and her colours increase.

moshirimon

08-25-12, 08:33 AM

I won't know forsure without knowing her bloodline but RG is the closest so far. Also it would be great to see some pics of your pastel that puts shame to hypos lol!

Jendee

08-25-12, 08:38 AM

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg283/cpblsoup/IMG_20120812_110855.jpg

shes a red group . but from a red group red group breeding so a double dose...but still just a pretty normal boa :)

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg283/cpblsoup/470553_4392744456173_196083427_o.jpg

Jendee

08-25-12, 08:41 AM

She looks like my columbian red tail boa who is double het for pink salmon and het for hypo
lol there is no such thing!!

moshirimon

08-25-12, 08:51 AM

Beautiful boa!! I did a lot of searching and even though the rg's colouration is almost identical , none of them have the saddle shape. I was told the hourglass shape saddles that aren't rounded out are a textbook indicator of hypo and I really do see it in most hypos. I know 100% that my boa isn't hypo, but what do you thinl explains his strange saddles.

Jendee

08-25-12, 09:09 AM

100% not a hypo but bred that boa to increase that butterfly saddle trade mark for a few generations and bam! youve got your own pastel line to name :)

moshirimon

08-25-12, 04:29 PM

That would be exciting, I'm not really a breeder but it's definitely a future look

moshirimon

08-30-12, 11:06 AM

and maybe ypu got red line confused with red group?? there are a line of pastels called red group pastels she looks alot lkke a rg pastel

by the way. since i'm not 100% sure about her blood, would i call her "poss rg pastel"