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Is it just that? A phase? Or do they phase into the purple? Do they all have to be lavender phase? What constitutes a lavender phase vs not?
millertime89
08-06-12, 08:17 AM
A lavender phase is the result of a purple Clark strain albino bred with a white Clark strain albino. A purple when hatched can look lavender or almost caramel, a lavender usually comes out almost white looking, and a white phase is VERY white. A lav is and will always be a lavender. Its not like with Amazons where a garden phase can turn yellow, orange, or red over time. I still can't always tell the difference between lav's and purples.
Purple x purple = all purples
white x white = all whites
Purple x white = all lav
lav x lav = all three
purple and lav, and lav and white, you'll get what the parents are.
Thanks for that info! I was having a hard time finding it online....seems royal morphs are more popular
millertime89
08-06-12, 09:43 PM
Of course they, people have a fascination with those pet rocks that escapes me...
Aaron_S
08-06-12, 09:56 PM
Of course they, people have a fascination with those pet rocks that escapes me...
You know, they don't break bylaws and such. Kind of a cool thing about them. Also doesn't take 5767 people to handle one just for routine maintenance.
To my knowledge, if you bred a purple to any of the three you'd actually get a mix. From the early on breedings, and I mean like 10 years ago, that's what was happening. Maybe Kyle is right and it's changed since.
I would go on over to Bob Clark's site and e-mail them, the founders of the entire line and ask them. To my knowledge you can breed any of them and still get a chance at any of them.
Actually, I just went and quickly browsed his site. Check his articles, in particular the one from 2002 about retics. There's a few paragraphs of the first albino retic project that he did and how all three came from the same founding male.
Yeah, i went and read it on Clark's site...it's amazing how that came from one male!! (and I get the honor of having one of his snakes, even if it isn't a lavender!). =D
Aaron_S
08-06-12, 10:12 PM
That's pretty wicked. I'm highly jealous I never get to own any Bob Clark snakes. I always used to want to while in my mid - late teens.
I'm sad to see his old site disappear though. Had a wicked forum where I spent years learning all about boids and the giants in particular. I credit that forum to a lot of my knowledge and the people who were a part of it.
Yeah, I asked the guy I'm getting him from where he got it, and he said bob clark at the last expo. I almost peed from excitement =3
millertime89
08-06-12, 11:02 PM
Ugh... Bob Clark... don't get me started, he was one of the pioneers, but he's not the best, too many nightmare stories from customers in the past few years. He's lost a lot of respect from both sides of the Nation/Monsters side. He's still got some great animals, but that doesn't excuse him for what he's done. That said he does seem to be turning things around so I have to give credit where its due.
There's been a LOT of debate on this topic recently on the Nation and what I posted seems to be the general consensus. You'll find breeders are starting to label things as "het purple" and "het white" to denote what the parents were, and the het purples create only purples and the het whites create only whites. I'm not sure if anybody has actually tried a het white to a het purple. There's a big long thread that you can read if you want, but I wouldn't recommend it.
Ugh... Bob Clark... don't get me started, he was one of the pioneers, but he's not the best, too many nightmare stories from customers in the past few years. He's lost a lot of respect from both sides of the Nation/Monsters side. He's still got some great animals, but that doesn't excuse him for what he's done. That said he does seem to be turning things around so I have to give credit where its due.
There's been a LOT of debate on this topic recently on the Nation and what I posted seems to be the general consensus. You'll find breeders are starting to label things as "het purple" and "het white" to denote what the parents were, and the het purples create only purples and the het whites create only whites. I'm not sure if anybody has actually tried a het white to a het purple. There's a big long thread that you can read if you want, but I wouldn't recommend it.
Yeah, I saw that....This snake is SUPER healthy and gorgeous, so at least he's trying again. I just didn't know exactly what the lavender phase meant =3 Haha, is it all the info about bob, or about lavender vs white vs purple?
stephanbakir
08-06-12, 11:08 PM
If the animal did indeed come from Bob, it WILL have paperwork. Make sure it does.
millertime89
08-06-12, 11:19 PM
That thread is all about lav, white, purple. I will say this about Bob, I saw his animals at the last expo, and even though I didn't handle any, they all appeared to be in great shape, didn't see any evidence of mites, or rub, or anything. But if you're buying from Bob, you're gonna pay "Bob prices", which really aren't any different that Prehistoric Pets prices.
Haha, I'm not paying bob prices, as I'm getting him from a friend ;D We worked out a deal for 300 and a plush (I make stuffed animals). He's the one who paid the prices xD
Squirtle
08-06-12, 11:22 PM
That thread is all about lav, white, purple. I will say this about Bob, I saw his animals at the last expo, and even though I didn't handle any, they all appeared to be in great shape, didn't see any evidence of mites, or rub, or anything. But if you're buying from Bob, you're gonna pay "Bob prices", which really aren't any different that Prehistoric Pets prices.
This. Anyone can lie just to make a quick buck out of anything they aren't interested in anymore.
what do you mean? This guy knows better than to lie to me. I've seen the snake (numerous times), held him, all that jazz. Even if he turns out not to be FROM bob clark, he still has the strains for sure. We talked about it all day at work today.
millertime89
08-06-12, 11:31 PM
Can you get some pics? 300 is a decent price for a Lav.
Nooo, he's not a lav. He's a white. I just wanted to know what it meant xD but, I can give a pic =3 This pic was RIGHT after he brought him home =3
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b205/BuriedMyselfAlive333/pajamas.jpg
millertime89
08-06-12, 11:40 PM
HOLY ****! 300! GET HIM! NOW!!!!!!!!!!
That's one of 3 things that I can't really tell because its a "banana snake" as I like to call them. It's either an albino super tiger, albino genetic stripe, or an albino tiger genetic stripe. My gut says albino tiger genetic stripe. But without a better picture I can't really say.
I know, right!?!? That's what my boyfriend said, and he hates snakes xD He's absolutely gorgeous, and a great personality. He's an Albino super tiger =3
I think it's funny you call them banana snakes...that's how he got his name...Bananas in Pajamas xD
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a111/nancybluntsaplenty/bananas_pajamas.gif
See the resemblance? xD
millertime89
08-06-12, 11:47 PM
lol, I thought you said he was just a lav albino... You're looking at a $1000+ snake, probably closer to $1500.
millertime89
08-06-12, 11:48 PM
You should see albino titaniums, TRUE banana snakes.
Yup. I don't think he's lav though...I'll take better pics on thursday, which is when he comes home to me ^-^
stephanbakir
08-07-12, 12:21 AM
Since when are white super tigers 1k+ kyle? I got one for my cousin off of kingsnake for 500$ and it was a lav
Aaron_S
08-07-12, 07:33 AM
Since when are white super tigers 1k+ kyle? I got one for my cousin off of kingsnake for 500$ and it was a lav
Bob Clark has a female lavander super tiger for 750 on his site. I would guess that is high end though and that the real value is 500 - 600. So still a steal at $300.
stephanbakir
08-07-12, 08:22 AM
It's a fantastic price, especially considering that animal isn't a baby. If its female the price is even better.
Nah, its a male (i prefer male animals). I'm just glad I get to be the one to have him!
Xanafein
08-07-12, 12:17 PM
He is a Beautiful Animal :D
Thanks! I like to think so =]
millertime89
08-08-12, 01:52 PM
Since when are white super tigers 1k+ kyle? I got one for my cousin off of kingsnake for 500$ and it was a lav
I thought she said something about it being a yearling. I was just looking around and seeing what prices were out there and found a purple super yearling for 6500 from Jay at PP (seems REALLY high...), purple super baby from Shane Costello for 1600, and 2000 from retic ranch, hence why I said 1k+. Dunno why Bob has one listed at 750 though, seems low for him.
He isn't purple though ;] he's white. So worth around $800+ on a good day. He's only about 6 months old =3
millertime89
08-08-12, 02:11 PM
He isn't purple though ;] he's white. So worth around $800+ on a good day. He's only about 6 months old =3
How long is he?
Around 6ft or more (i get him tomorrow, so I'll measure for exact numbers). I know the guy got him from a bob Clark auction in march.
How long is he?
Haha, I was wrong! He's a little under six ft. has some great color to him...it's everything I can do not to take him out and play with him xD
In case you didn't see:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b205/BuriedMyselfAlive333/IMAG0106-1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b205/BuriedMyselfAlive333/IMAG0108-1.jpg
millertime89
08-11-12, 07:37 PM
He looks great, I like how his pattern is evident despite being a banana, the ST albino I held today had no pattern.
He looks great, I like how his pattern is evident despite being a banana, the ST albino I held today had no pattern.
That's my favorite part about him =3 He's so chill, and is super entertaining to watch. Feeding him tonight, giving him a couple days and then I'll take some pics with him. ^-^ I find it hilarious that my cat, who is afraid of my itty bitty ball python actually tries to play with Pajamas through his tank....xD
millertime89
08-11-12, 08:00 PM
Ha ha that's great, animals are so strange sometimes
shaunyboy
08-11-12, 08:13 PM
Ugh... Bob Clark... don't get me started, he was one of the pioneers, but he's not the best, too many nightmare stories from customers in the past few years. He's lost a lot of respect from both sides of the Nation/Monsters side. He's still got some great animals, but that doesn't excuse him for what he's done. That said he does seem to be turning things around so I have to give credit where its due.
^^^^^
i am NOT a fan of Bob and his ways,there's PLENTY HORROR story's,of him and his UK shipments
a friend of mine had a horrible experience,buying from Bob
cheers shaun
millertime89
08-11-12, 08:30 PM
^^^^^
i am NOT a fan of Bob and his ways,there's PLENTY HORROR story's,of him and his UK shipments
a friend of mine had a horrible experience,buying from Bob
cheers shaun
Like I've said, I've heard loads of bad stories, but I've heard good ones too. I have no personal experience buying from him although I was going to if he had a dwarf burm available prior to the lacey act listing of burms but he didn't. I did meet him in KC last month, but didn't really talk much. He seemed nice enough, but I've heard stories of just the opposite.
He's a person. we all have our good and bad days...can't expect someone to be constantly, amazingly nice ;]
quick question about feeding...Tonight, I gave him a good sized rat (which is what he's been on for a while). He hasn't eaten in about 2 weeks (preparing for moving). When I fed him, he grabbed the rat, squeezed it for about 10 minutes, wandered around his tank, then went back about 20 minutes later and ate it...does this just mean he doesn't have much of a...erm...'prey drive'? (that's what it is in dogs...i don't even know what to call it in snakes xD) Or is he a super lazy eater?
millertime89
08-12-12, 12:33 AM
Lazy eater most likely, a few of mine have done it before, if he does it again try draping a towel or blanket over the glass so he doesn't get disturbed., my female SD was like this fir about two months, every snake is different.
Haha, nice. good to know. He's in my bedroom, so I usually just shut off his overhead light (it's just so I can see him) and close the door...It's crazy though, I was expecting him to be in feeding mode for a couple of days, but he's already out of it! (I needed to move his hide back, and he let me do that without any problems)
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